Political Posts

[Blake Hampton]

And I really believe in markets.

 

I think they’re incredibly interesting as well as efficient over-time. What better system is there for propelling humanity besides self-interest? We’re generally a greedy species.

 

But that doesn’t mean they don’t need to be checked now and again. They can still fail in certain instances.

 

Edited June 15, 2025 by Blake Hampton

[Gregmal]

7 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Protesting against something you dont agree with is as American as apple pie. Doesn't make you brainwashed or a moron. If 10m people use their saturday to protest and make a statement, maybe theres a grain of concern in there. And phrasing it that way is what's more decisive than just disagreeing 

Protesting a “king” that was elected the same way as your heroes shows some serious mental deficiency.

 

Either way, a long bit ago, I was talking to a dog breeder/trainer. Guy was explaining how when the dogs are young they’ll need to be reigned in when misbehaving. How if they shit on the carpet you need to scruff them(grab them by the excess skin around the neck the same way many animals carry their young) and put their face right next to it, forcing them to see and smell their mistakes. Now, that’s all a little too intense for me….but metaphorically I think it’s important that problematic social behaviors get the same treatment. 

[dwy000]

1 minute ago, Gregmal said:

Protesting a “king” that was elected the same way as your heroes shows some serious mental deficiency.

 

Either way, a long bit ago, I was talking to a dog breeder/trainer. Guy was explaining how when the dogs are young they’ll need to be reigned in when misbehaving. How if they shit on the carpet you need to scruff them(grab them by the excess skin around the neck the same way many animals carry their young) and put their face right next to it, forcing them to see and smell their mistakes. Now, that’s all a little too intense for me….but metaphorically I think it’s important that problematic social behaviors get the same treatment. 

The "King" issue is not that they think he IS a king but that he wants to be and is increasingly acting it out.  The idea that Trump appears to want unreined power with no ability for congress or the courts to restrain him.  Thats the protest.  

 

In a truly free country, problematic social behaviors are only ones that impact the freedom of others or harm other people.  Protesting by both sides is absolutely fine as long as it stays peaceful.  Its the view that the other side needs to be shown their mistake because they dont agree with you that is the problematic part in a free country. 

[Blake Hampton]

9 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Protesting a “king” that was elected the same way as your heroes shows some serious mental deficiency.

It’s not that he was elected, it’s that he’s overstepping his presidential authority.

 

Single-handedly, he’s pushing extremely influential policy using emergency powers. Every single thing this guy does seemingly is attached to some emergency.

 

And he’s an idiot, he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Do you really think Trump understands the consequences attached to this vast trade chicanery? This is why it’s important to have checks and balances, so you don’t have some goddamn moron come and blow it all up by himself.

[Gregmal]

1 minute ago, dwy000 said:

The "King" issue is not that they think he IS a king but that he wants to be and is increasingly acting it out. 

LOL so they bought hook, line, and sinker the MSM propaganda and are now outside on a weekend stomping around like mind-controled twits....exactly my point. Either that or I guess theyre all mind readers....

[Gregmal]

4 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

In a truly free country, problematic social behaviors are only ones that impact the freedom of others or harm other people.  Protesting by both sides is absolutely fine as long as it stays peaceful.  Its the view that the other side needs to be shown their mistake because they dont agree with you that is the problematic part in a free country. 

Not exactly. It's the extreme obsessions with turning "every little thing" into some grand outrage and event that "calls for action" that ultimately breeds horrible outcomes. But to your point, yes, the freedom of others is impacted when things are thrown at their cars/cars vandalized for no reason, folks jobs are lost because of whom they voted for, people are attacked for wearing a hat, their kids dont get into schools because of their skin color....and how do we get there? 

[Gregmal]

12 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

And he’s an idiot, he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Do you really think Trump understands the consequences attached to this vast trade chicanery?

As I said from day 1, and as its played out nearly to a T, he's playing a semi dangerous game, but largely posturing and to the extent that its having negative economic consequences by the mid/end of summer...worst case he'll settle for a paper win and abandon it all. He's not committed to doing anything that would jeopardize mid term elections. As some of the better posters here have mentioned...Trump knows what hes doing on a macro level, regularly fails to find the proper micro execution strategy, and has no problem pivoting when necessary. The fears are stupid and overblown. There's pots of gold playing it all though, as long as youre willing to get past the noise and take advantage of the TAFFI crowd. 

[dwy000]

16 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

LOL so they bought hook, line, and sinker the MSM propaganda and are now outside on a weekend stomping around like mind-controled twits....exactly my point. Either that or I guess theyre all mind readers....

Mind controlled twits? People who disagree with you expressing their free speech?  Thats the rhetoric that social media spins into gold for themselves, not the MSM.

[Gregmal]

6 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Mind controlled twits? People who disagree with you expressing their free speech?  Thats the rhetoric that social media spins into gold for themselves, not the MSM.

They are spending their weekends protesting something that 3 minutes of basic functional research would tell you is fabricated. We can “call it” whatever we want, same as we can create all sorts of other labels for other things…but semi reasonable people see it for what it is. 

[Gregmal]

Like the underlying root of why they’re out there making fools of themselves is because?….drumrolls….they think, actually genuinely believe! “democracy is at risk”….coincidentally the EXACT manufactured media narrative that’s been peddled since the “Trump is a racist” schtick failed to catch on meaningfully in 2017. Suckers

[dwy000]

Just now, Gregmal said:

They are spending their weekends protesting something that 3 minutes of basic functional research would tell you is fabricated. We can “call it” whatever we want, same as we can create all sorts of other labels for other things…but semi reasonable people see it for what it is. 

10m people would disagree. They are protesting the direction they see the country heading with a president who appears to want complete control and hates that the courts are standing in his way.  They want their voices heard. And it would be just as valid if a Democratic president was doing the same thing and people didnt want it.

 

in a free country people want to be heard and dont want their freedoms suppressed. Rom both sides. Doesn't make them morons or mind controlled 

[dwy000]

1 minute ago, Gregmal said:

Like the underlying root of why they’re out there making fools of themselves is because?….drumrolls….they think, actually genuinely believe! “democracy is at risk”….coincidentally the EXACT manufactured media narrative that’s been peddled since the “Trump is a racist” schtick failed to catch on meaningfully in 2017. Suckers

This is exactly your puppy point.  They dont necessarily believe democracy is at risk right now but dont like the direction its heading - with the President calling for judges to be removed, people not getting due process, etc.  And they want to stamp it out before it gets to the point that other rights get removed. Trump is selling Trump 2028 hats. And yes its a joke but then you get Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller saying they're working on it. At what point do people get to stand up and say its not  a joke?  Doesn't make them morons. Makes them concerned. Which is allowed in a free country. 

[RichardGibbons]

56 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

The people at the top are no different. They hoard the wealth, and it does not trickle down.

 

This just means that you don't actually understand capitalism. Forty years ago, about 1 in 10 homes in the most prosperous country on earth had a computer, and that computer was pretty useless.

Today, pretty well everyone has a computer that's at 10,000 times more powerful than the most powerful computer in 1985 (and I'm not talking PC. I'm talking CRAYs.)  And that computer is in their pocket. And they can access pretty well any data they want anywhere at any time. And video conference with anyone anywhere, anytime. Use almost any application for basically free. And that's even before AI, healthcare, and trade advantages.

This is trickle-down wealth that has given people today capabilities that far surpass even the most wealthy from the 1980s. But you don't care about that because reasons.

 

As for "hoarding the wealth", it should be so overwhelmingly obvious to anyone on this message board that nobody's actually hoarding wealth that it's not worth addressing. People who don't understand the market have an excuse for believing that. Not those who do.

 

And, FWIW, I strongly agree with you that the younger generations are being completely screwed by the older generations.  It's just the political policies that are screwing them over, not capitalism or the people who profit by making more and more desirable products that raise everyone's standard of living ("hording their wealth" by investing it in creating things that improve everyone's lives.)

[Gregmal]

3 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

appears

Which is influenced by the lens you are looking through. This obviously heavily influenced by the propaganda they’ve been eating up. 
 

In a way, no different than the anti vax or anti lockdown people. Fools go out and stomp around with signs. If you have a problem it’s probably because you’re living in the wrong area, or you care too much. Because the beauty of America is that despite the total bullshit being peddled, many places in America you can do exactly or whatever you want despite the narrative that’s fed to you by the media. If you don’t like extreme left NYC, move. Other side of the coin is there plenty of people whom love it. That’s their place. If you don’t like taxes, there’s states that have none. If you don’t like governments threatening fines and jail for going to the gym, there’s states that handled things the right way. Huge fan of abortions…there’s states for that! Something for everyone, if indeed the hot button issue is that meaningful to you. None of that is threatened by anything going on in Washington. So if you’re protesting in NY. Fuckin retard you’re not threatened lol. If you’re protesting in Panama City….lol why? Americas becoming the land of whine but don’t take action. And then the whiners demand to be placated. Screw them.

[Gregmal]

Like remember the people whom protested because they claimed it was fascist and oppressive to not have sex oriented books in middle schools…only the issue was only occurring in a few states(not everywhere), and frankly I’m not sure why an adult would be invested so much in the subject. It had no impact on lives…but they protested, and claimed “threat to democracy”…LMFAO

[dwy000]

2 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Which is influenced by the lens you are looking through. This obviously heavily influenced by the propaganda they’ve been eating up. 
 

In a way, no different than the anti vax or anti lockdown people. Fools go out and stomp around with signs. If you have a problem it’s probably because you’re living in the wrong area, or you care too much. Because the beauty of America is that despite the total bullshit being peddled, many places in America you can do exactly or whatever you want despite the narrative that’s fed to you by the media. If you don’t like extreme left NYC, move. Other side of the coin is there plenty of people whom love it. That’s their place. If you don’t like taxes, there’s states that have none. If you don’t like governments threatening fines and jail for going to the gym, there’s states that handled things the right way. Huge fan of abortions…there’s states for that! Something for everyone, if indeed the hot button issue is that meaningful to you. None of that is threatened by anything going on in Washington. So if you’re protesting in NY. Fuckin retard you’re not threatened lol. If you’re protesting in Panama City….lol why? Americas becoming the land of whine but don’t take action. And then the whiners demand to be placated. Screw them.

Well that's kind of the point.  People DO see it as being threatened by Washington. Trump sending in National Guard and Marines specifically over the objection of the state government. People not getting due process. Global tariffs, not from Congress but the President independently, based on fentenyl emergency.  They see it as an overstep by the Federal government because all of this being done unilaterally by exec order.  And then arguing that judges should be removed who push back on it. 

[dwy000]

2 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Like remember the people whom protested because they claimed it was fascist and oppressive to not have sex oriented books in middle schools…only the issue was only occurring in a few states(not everywhere), and frankly I’m not sure why an adult would be invested so much in the subject. It had no impact on lives…but they protested, and claimed “threat to democracy”…LMFAO

And to your point, those protests were in the states where that was occurring, largely from parents who's kids were impacted. Nobody in Vermont was protesting Alabama library rules. Protests are from people opposed to what they dont like - from both sides.  Disagreeing on issues is what makes America great.  People aren't morons ro idiots for having differing viewpoints. 

[orthopa]

I find it interesting for anyone to call Trump a king when and if they supported Kamala as the pick for the democrats. The "king" in power then nominated the "queen" to be "king". No primary. Not a single person in smallville USA voted for her as the nominee and the democrats took it all the way to the election.  Did we forget that?

 

Are we really concerned about kings and queens and loss of democracy or just don't like what hes doing? 

Edited June 15, 2025 by orthopa

[Gregmal]

12 minutes ago, orthopa said:

I find it interesting for anyone to call Trump a king when if and when they supported Kamala as the pick for the democrats. The "king" in power then nominated the "queen" to be "king". No primary. Not a single person in smallville USA voted for her as the nominee and the democrats took it all the way to the election.  Did we forget that?

 

Are we really concerned about kings and queens and loss of democracy or just don't like what hes doing? 

This is why we laugh at them. Pure idiots and hypocrites

[Gregmal]

20 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

And to your point, those protests were in the states where that was occurring, largely from parents whose kids were impacted. Nobody in Vermont was protesting Alabama library rules. Protests are from people opposed to what they dont like - from both sides.  Disagreeing on issues is what makes America great.  People aren't morons ro idiots for having differing viewpoints. 

But again, if exposing middle schoolers to sex oriented books is your thing, in America there’s places where you can do that. It’s probably not Alabama, and even if it is, this isn’t a “threat to democracy”…and if it’s that important to someone, they can always relocate to an area that shares their values 

[dwy000]

1 minute ago, Gregmal said:

But again, if exposing middle schoolers to sex oriented books is your thing, in America there’s places where you can do that. It’s probably not Alabama, and even if it is, this isn’t a “threat to democracy”…and if it’s that important to someone, they can always relocate to an area that shares their values 

Right (although trying to change the issue instead of moving states might be preferred depending on the issue).  But for Federal issues, you can't just relocate to another area.

[orthopa]

3 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

The poor are lays left behind by definition. The question is how many of them are there and if the numbers are going down, which they have over the years.

 

We need to remember that ALOT of people who are poor are so by their own doing. Who is not? The retarded, the handicapped, the truly disabled. 

 

We live in a country where prek-12 schooling is free, the transportation there is free, breakfast and lunch are free. Sports and afterschool programs are available after school. Then if needed daycare, housing, monthly stipend for food, healthcare are paid for etc. college is more accessible then ever for those in need. 

 

Even if you grow up poor, your parents are poor etc individuals in this country are given plenty of opportunity to not be "poor". Maybe its about time we ask why these people keep making poor decisions or understand that they make the decisions they make because they want to forego opportunity for better in exchange for guaranteed resources. Sometimes people who are "poor" are ok with subsidized housing, food stamps and minimum wage jobs. Its the others projecting their dissatisfaction that think its bad they are poor.

 

People are upset by people being poor should be very upset by the decisions and culture that leads to poverty. Put your energy towards that. You will get tired eventually, throw your hands up and walk away too. 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 15, 2025 by orthopa

[Gregmal]

4 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Right (although trying to change the issue instead of moving states might be preferred depending on the issue).  But for Federal issues, you can't just relocate to another area.

Sure, but at the local level, and even many cases state levels, the policies are dictated by what the people value…if you don’t share the same values, you’ve got decisions to make. 
 

For instance Florida had a controversial proposal to do some develop within state parks. It got the go ahead; and people by and large made it clear they didn’t support it, and it got reversed. Many of these other issues are people whom(regardless of side) live in 70/30 areas and as the 30% want to cause a scene when the answer is either shut up, get lost, or go fuck your self . 

[Red Lion]

2 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

Why do we even pay people to work?

 

Let’s just give all of the money to owners, and hope that they’ll eventually pass along some of the profits.

Because they won’t do it otherwise. Not all that long ago when I was in school they used to teach us about John smith and the Jamestown colony. Some people didn’t want to work, the story goes, and he said “if you don’t work you don’t eat”. 
 

The original regressive economic policy in the Americas I guess. 

[Sweet]

2 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

The people at the top are no different. They hoard the wealth, and it does not trickle down. Reaganomics is the biggest pile of horse shit ever sold.

You’re on an investing forum and you don’t seem to know a basic economic fact.  Wealth is created, not hoarded.