If American - which presidential candidate will you vote for?

[alwaysinvert]

Nearly 20 percent of Trump’s supporters disapprove of Lincoln freeing the slaves

 

She was wrong to say "half" but "basket of deplorables" is spot on.

 

That interweb poll isn't worth the paper it is printed on...How do you know one crackpot didn't vote 500 times?  Heck, I can run a poll on the interweb and given enough time & $ can come up with almost any result.

 

Perhaps they should have also polled Hillary supporters on the same question.  What would the results be?

 

There are semi-famous YouTube videos of late night TV shows going to college campuses, amusement parks, malls, Times Square, etc. and asking people odd/simple questions.  The results they get are funny/alarming.  People are funny/weird/stupid, especially when asked ?'s by pollsters.  This is the same type of thing...

 

I don't know of single Trump supporter who is advocating bringing back slavery.  I also don't know a single Hillary supporter who advocates that either.

 

If you read the article, it is all about the framing. They ask about using executive orders, which of course is a  partisan issue right now more than ever, and then they ask about Lincoln using an executive order. They essentially trap the respondents; either you are logically inconsistent or we can infer that you endorse slavery (which obviously isn't true either, you could be against slavery but also against the method with which it was abolished... duh).

 

But anyway, it's a great political propaganda piece. Nuance be damned!

[onyx1]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-has-medical-episode-at-911-ceremony-source-says.html

 

"The Democratic presidential nominee appeared to faint on her way into her van and had to be helped by her security, the source said."

 

 

From now on, I will just post facts and stop commenting on them, to avoid being called childish, racist, conspirator etc.  :)

 

Did you say facts? and then you post from Fox News.You have a lot to learn about this country my friend. Fox news is as real as WWF.

 

Again its Clinton vs brain dead scumbag traitor who goes on foreign news channel and criticize our President.

 

Facts? Here you go. Is a video good enough fact?

 

https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200

 

 

No, video won't be enough.  The loony leftists will fall for the coming explanation that she just "tripped".

[onyx1]

Watch MSNBC twist themselves into a knot to cover for Hillary. 

 

They don't mention that a barricade was needed to hold her up, call her "a little bit wobbly", due to the "horrible" heat, and carefully edit the video to keep from showing her fainting.  Hilarious.

 

 

BTW, I live in the area, and it wasn't even hot today.  82 degrees with moderate humidity and a steady breeze.

 

 

Media corruption.

[valcont]

Republican's new strategy to win this election: Hillary is unfit because she is old and faint occasionaly.

 

Have they looked at their base?

[Palantir]

^Yeah, I don't see this as a very effective line of attack. Hillary is evil, incompetent etc. is fair, but...Hillary, a nearly 70 yo lady might have health issues, so instead of that swing voters are going to choose Trump? Da fuq?

 

 

[DTEJD1997]

^Yeah, I don't see this as a very effective line of attack. Hillary is evil, incompetent etc. is fair, but...Hillary, a nearly 70 yo lady might have health issues, so instead of that swing voters are going to choose Trump? Da fuq?

 

Die hard Hillary supporters are going to vote for her almost no matter what...Will her health issues move some of her borderline supporters to Trump?  Yes, maybe, probably not very many...

 

The worse problem is that some percentage of her supporters will move to 3rd party candidates OR will simply not vote.  This is by far the worse problem I think.

 

I've seen the 2nd video that just came out on the interwebs.  It shows her from a different angle.  There is absolutely no question that she collapsed.  The question now, is did she have a seizure?  I think it is probably that she did.

 

I was previously not inclined to believe that her "coughing" fits were signs of ill health.  After seeing this video a few times, there is NOT A DOUBT at all that this woman has very serious health issues...

[Palantir]

 

I was previously not inclined to believe that her "coughing" fits were signs of ill health.  After seeing this video a few times, there is NOT A DOUBT at all that this woman has very serious health issues...

 

sigh

[valcont]

So the Doctor ( the actual one not the 5 minute driveby wacko http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-doctor-wrote-health-letter-just-5-minutes-limo-waited-n638526) diagnosed her with pneumonia.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/12/us/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-pneumonia.html

 

Most reasonable people will believe a professional but watch the wing nuts's conspiracy theories tomorrow.

[muscleman]

^Yeah, I don't see this as a very effective line of attack. Hillary is evil, incompetent etc. is fair, but...Hillary, a nearly 70 yo lady might have health issues, so instead of that swing voters are going to choose Trump? Da fuq?

 

Die hard Hillary supporters are going to vote for her almost no matter what...Will her health issues move some of her borderline supporters to Trump?  Yes, maybe, probably not very many...

 

The worse problem is that some percentage of her supporters will move to 3rd party candidates OR will simply not vote.  This is by far the worse problem I think.

 

I've seen the 2nd video that just came out on the interwebs.  It shows her from a different angle.  There is absolutely no question that she collapsed.  The question now, is did she have a seizure?  I think it is probably that she did.

 

I was previously not inclined to believe that her "coughing" fits were signs of ill health.  After seeing this video a few times, there is NOT A DOUBT at all that this woman has very serious health issues...

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/index.html

 

CNN said this is no big deal. Just dehydration after pneumonia.

 

However I doubt CNN is telling the truth. Keep in mind that she later came out and hugged a little girl. Pneumonia is highly contagious. I would be surprised if she got pneumonia but hugged a girl anyway just to prove she is fine.

 

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2016/09/11/does-hillary-have-a-double/

 

There is also conspiracy saying the woman who came out later in the day was not the real Hillary. I compared the face side by side and it does look like the one on the right is younger.

 

 

 

[DTEJD1997]

 

I was previously not inclined to believe that her "coughing" fits were signs of ill health.  After seeing this video a few times, there is NOT A DOUBT at all that this woman has very serious health issues...

 

sigh

 

Who are you going to believe?  Your lying eyes or the press?

 

Hahahahahaha

[Guest Schwab711]

http://www.people-press.org/2016/06/22/partisanship-and-political-animosity-in-2016/

[rkbabang]

This election is great.  Future generations will have to read about the decline and fall of the US in their history books, but we will all get to live through it and witness it first hand.  May you live in interesting times.

[Edward]

Your evidence amounts to:

I fairness it is just a summary of the evidence, there's plenty of it beyond what I mentioned.

 

And I would suggest watching the following video of a MD connecting the dots:

 

In short, she probably has Parkinson's.

 

And by the way, people with this condition are known to be extra susceptible to Pneumonia, which she now has.

http://what-when-how.com/parkinsons-disease/pneumonia-parkinson%E2%80%99s-disease/

[onyx1]

... so instead of that swing voters are going to choose Trump? Da fuq?

 

 

Pretty sure the parents of this girl are re-considering their vote for Pneumonia Hillary.

 

 

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-hugs-child-despite-contagious-pneumonia/

[Palantir]

Pneumonia Hillary. So...the Right now finds it funny to mock someone's (supposed) health issues. Stay classy.

[onyx1]

Pneumonia Hillary. So...the Right now finds it funny to mock someone's (supposed) health issues. Stay classy.

 

To me, it's not funny to expose an innocent child to an infectious disease. 

 

Nice try. If you can't respond to the message, attack the messenger.

[rkbabang]

Pneumonia Hillary. So...the Right now finds it funny to mock someone's (supposed) health issues. Stay classy.

 

To me, it's not funny to expose an innocent child to an infectious disease. 

 

Nice try. If you can't respond to the message, attack the messenger.

 

Is it not worth it to die knowing you've met Hillary?  Hillary must think so anyway.

[rkbabang]

I'll tell you what.  Say what you want about Scott Adams, but he has been 100% correct about how this campaign would turn out so far.  He was saying that Trump was going to win the nomination and then the presidency (and his reasoning was spot on. HINT: he doesn't support Trump) way back in August of 2015 when almost everyone thought even his run for the nomination was a joke.  He was also talking about Hillary's health long before even the Republican press.  It is almost like someone gave him an advance copy of how this whole election show was going to play out.

 

[bobp]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet that Trump is a moron. I can understand people voting for him, I really can, but I can't see listening to him for more than ten minutes without deciding that he's a complete idiot. Or a moron, take your pick.

[rkbabang]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet that Trump is a moron. I can understand people voting for him, I really can, but I can't see listening to him for more than ten minutes without deciding that he's a complete idiot. Or a moron, take your pick.

 

I think that just goes without saying.    By the way when I posted the link to the Penn Jillette interview here

http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/general-discussion/if-american-who-will-you-vote-for/msg273773/#msg273773

and said that his analysis was correct, I was implicitly saying that Trump is a moron.  If you listen to the interview he basically states (in so many words) that Trump is a stupid moron and Hilary is an evil and dangerous war monger and lier.

 

[muscleman]

... so instead of that swing voters are going to choose Trump? Da fuq?

 

 

Pretty sure the parents of this girl are re-considering their vote for Pneumonia Hillary.

 

 

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-hugs-child-despite-contagious-pneumonia/

 

Yeah. That's why there is conspiracy saying the woman who walked out later is not the real Hillary.

When I compare the wrinkles between the two pictures, the one on the right clearly looks younger with less wrinkles. But it could be light effect.

 

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2016/09/11/does-hillary-have-a-double/

 

This election is getting interesting. We are going to elect this waling dead, guys!  :D

 

[DonFanucci]

... so instead of that swing voters are going to choose Trump? Da fuq?

 

 

Pretty sure the parents of this girl are re-considering their vote for Pneumonia Hillary.

 

 

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-hugs-child-despite-contagious-pneumonia/

 

That video was too darn funny. Instead of just coming out and saying she's dehydrated, her first instinct is to start lying. "I feel great!!" "It's a beautiful day!!" ... meanwhile she has pneumonia and can't even stand. I'm sure she feels totally fantastic. Lol.

[DTEJD1997]

Hey all:

 

What is just so crazy about all of this is that Hillary & her campaign handlers just can't help themselves.  They HAVE to lie & dissemble.  They couldn't tell the truth if they wanted to.

 

If they came out & said that Hillary has some MINOR health issues.  She is going to cut back or opt out for a week to insure a full recovery...OK, fine, who cares? 

 

But no, they've got to deny almost everything to the point of looking comical.  They double down, triple down, and then she collapses and now all sorts of theories are running wild.  That she has clones & doubles, that she is "shovel ready" and in a terminal state...and on and on...

 

Well, once again, they Clintons have taken a relatively minor thing, and now it is a MAJOR issue.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if this costs her the election...

[valcont]

Definitely don't want this creep to hold a young girl.

 

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/279091/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-photo-gross/

[rkbabang]

I wouldn't be surprised if this costs her the election...

 

According to Scott Adams it has.

 

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150264994381/the-race-for-president-is-probably-over