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Oh really? Just like you and your crowd continue to harp on all the past sacrifices of Danish forces to America in the Middle East, NATO conflicts, etc??? Who the hell are you kidding. It's just not convenient for your current narrative, is it now John? Give me a break already.

^^^ I guess Trump has not learned from the failures of Obama/Clinton/Biden as they profess their love for Mother Russia in 2009, after the brutal invasion of Georgia. Hopefully Trump will not as reckless as Obama during this critical negotiation. Or perhaps we should let the "statesman" Obama set terms for the peace??

Trump won't dare do that - he's in Putin's back pocket! He a Russian asset!

Oh, yeah - my bad.. here is the link I'm referring to - I got Druckenmiller and Tudor-Jones mixed up. Apologies!

The dreaded Russians & Comrade Stalin saved your homeland @Spekulatius Where is your gratitude?

Druckenmiller's solution was to inflate and spend his way out of the debt. Good think he's not in charge.

It's quite an obvious insult with a intentional lack of acknowledgment of American sacrifice. In addition, you failed to acknowledge the constant barrage of insults from European and Canadian leaders. But I get it - it's always the bully American and the brutish American President.

200,000 dead WW2 Americans in Europe - and now you demand more. Message received.

More on talks:

I'll agree that I definitely do not understand your points. And I don't think you're a bad guy. Let's just say I'm dense. That's good enough for me.

Oh, you really are a piece of work. My goodness!

Looks like there is no reason to proceed with talks in your mind. It's not like the Russians aren't know to negotiate like this. So you are saying you are certain the Russians are not bluffing. IF that is true - it will be a long protracted war and peace is not in the cards. Trump indicates his conversations with Russia have been different.

Why does Russia want to fight Europe (non-NATO) in the absence of US/Zelensky agreement? You said there was a clear incentive for Russia to reject any Trump proposal. You still have not answered that.

Latest - negotiations with Zelensky look to continue next Weds in Saudi Arabia

What you are missing - it is NOT a NATO force at all. This is not a NATO action - it's a UK/France/Germany organized by PM Stalmer. Italy has already said - no way. You think Turkey is going to fight their best friends the Russians?

What? Why would they reject peace when they will have to go to war with Europe???

Huh??? Russia wants peace and Russia wants "something". The "something" we know is no NATO, keep Crimea, Donbas and a whole lot of other territory. What does Russia give up? stop the war, gives back "some" territory, and has to live with a DMZ, European force, and Ukraine armed to the teeth. If Russia does not want peace - then the war continues without the US and with the backing of a Europe that wants war. Are you saying that Putin wants to fight Europe in addition to Ukraine?

You definitely should not - in which case, you are on your own. War it will be! It may have been Biden's war - but now it is Ukraine & Europe's war. We want it settled. You don't. Trump is just the messenger for the American people - so let them have it ! @Fundmanagerthrwawy

Incorrect. The "ambiguous" security guarantee would be spelled out to Putin once talks are serious. (after both parties AGREE they want peace pursued - otherwise USA is done) Zelensky says he is committed to peace, Putin agrees says he's committed to peace. A Russia/Ukraine agreement is signed - with a joint Euro/USA backing. US establishes their mineral deal using US resources - if peace agreement is violated by Russia, there is hell to pay by Russia with US involvement. Does that mean troops on ground? No idea. Does it mean military strikes? Probably - but Trump won't telegraph exactly what - nor should he. Frankly, I have no idea where this deal is at currently. I would expect lots of back & forth and changing conditions, given last Friday - but it does look a lot closer.

Thank you John. We all want the right outcome, although we differ on methods.

Not sure I understand your question John, but that's ok. (BTW - I think your English is perfect) IF I do understand, then the answer is this: Trump has advised Europe that Putin seeks peace. He has re-iterated that point many times. Now if you don't trust Trump - and as a group (Europe/Ukraine) - refuse to talk to Putin - then where does that leave you?? You either have to trust Trump or take over negotiations. Which do you prefer?? I think you are saying that Europe will not stand for Trump conducting negotiations??

You're a big boy now Spooky. Time to move out of the house.

When the time comes to negotiate with the Russians - there will be a go/no decision obviously. Like Zelensky, the Russians will not get everything they want. IF they do not want peace, then it will be war, but without the USA. I really don't think you want to throw in the towel as long as Trump has a dialogue going with Putin. Or do you?

I'm a fan of Douglas Murry, so I'll be interested to see his POV. Murray is a large critic of European leadership and the circular firing squad it has become with the destruction of their culture through immigration policy and blatant anti-semitism. I know he's been quite critical of Starmer and his do nothing approach. Good to see Murray spreads around his criticism.

Trump punching down against Europe, China & Canada - maybe Russia will save him? How laughable.