IT Jigglers

[rogermunibond]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1858929066264379629.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

 

Fascinating Twitter thread on the IT industry slackers.

Deedy
@deedydas

Everyone thinks this is an exaggeration but there are so many software engineers, not just at FAANG, who I know personally who literally make ~2 code changes a month, few emails, few meetings, remote work, < 5 hours/ week, for ~$200-300k.

Here are some of those companies:

Oracle
Salesforce
Cisco
Workday
SAP
IBM
VMware
Intuit
Autodesk
Veeva 
Box
Citrix
Adobe

 

The “quiet quitting” playbook is well known:

- “in a meeting” on slack
- scheduled slack, email, code at late hours
- private calendar with blocks
- mouse jiggler for always online
- “this will take 2 weeks” (1 day)
- “oh, the spec wasn’t clear”
- many small refactors
- “build is having issues”
- blocked by another team
- will take time bcuz <obscure tech reason> like “race condition”
- “can you create a jira for that?”

 

And no, AI is not writing their code. Most of these people are chilling so hard they have no idea what AI can do.

Most people in tech were never surprised that Elon could lay off 80% of Twitter, you can lay off 80% of most of these companies

 

[Malmqky]

Most jobs could be eliminated / done in a few hours per week.

 

EDIT: white collar jobs that is

Edited Wednesday at 02:33 AM by Malmqky

[lnofeisone]

6 hours ago, Malmqky said:

Most jobs could be eliminated / done in a few hours per week.

 

EDIT: white collar jobs that is

I don't agree with this take at all. A lot of white-collar jobs are relationship-based and require that relationship. AI isn't a substitute for that. And I'll still take all the IT jigglers when I have 2AM production issue over AI. That's just a fact of life. 

[Castanza]

12 hours ago, lnofeisone said:

I don't agree with this take at all. A lot of white-collar jobs are relationship-based and require that relationship. AI isn't a substitute for that. And I'll still take all the IT jigglers when I have 2AM production issue over AI. That's just a fact of life. 

Tom Smykowski is that you?

 

 

[DooDiligence]

[LC]

Goofball post. 

 

Funny how like 2/3rd of the mentioned companies are some of the strongest contributors to the US economy over the past 10-20 years. Add in some other software giants where the same behavior exists (AWS, Azure, META, most of Google) and it's literally the engine that has kept this country's economy at the forefront globally.  

 

Guess they should've made software great again by employing ex-coal miners at 12hr shifts for less than minimum wage

[lnofeisone]

1 hour ago, Castanza said:

Tom Smykowski is that you?

 

 

While I love office space and the humor it has, I've been in so many situations where the client doesn't know what they want and the engineers have no clue what was asked and just coded whatever and we were all in the same room. This meme exists for a reason:

[Malmqky]

5 minutes ago, lnofeisone said:

While I love office space and the humor it has, I've been in so many situations where the client doesn't know what they want and the engineers have no clue what was asked and just coded whatever and we were all in the same room. This meme exists for a reason:

This is why AI won’t replace software devs. Clients don’t know what they actually want. Gathering/translating requirements is the hardest part imo.

[lnofeisone]

I think AI will push devs to be more hybrid business/mission + dev. I use AI today and can get so much more coding and coding review done than I have in the past. I can now spend so much more time focusing on dealing with client and understanding what they actually need which, to your point, may not be how they are describing it. 

[John Hjorth]

1 hour ago, LC said:

Goofball post. 

 

Funny how like 2/3rd of the mentioned companies are some of the strongest contributors to the US economy over the past 10-20 years. Add in some other software giants where the same behavior exists (AWS, Azure, META, most of Google) and it's literally the engine that has kept this country's economy at the forefront globally.  

 

Guess they should've made software great again by employing ex-coal miners at 12hr shifts for less than minimum wage

 

I have been waiting [based on knowledge about your craft] for your reaction here today with exitement, based on great expectations of it being entertaining, which didn't miss!, @LC ! 

[LC]

Hah, I probably come off as more of a bleeding heart than I truly am, but I am glad I provided some entertainment value, at least!