If the AI bubble like the Internet, in what year are we now?

[Luke]

1 hour ago, james22 said:

 

All it costs is your privacy.

 

 

 

OpenAI will do the same, US government will do the same. Literally no difference.

[Luke]

56 minutes ago, frommi said:

In the endgame i think we will get thousands of robots that replace humans in every task possible. The true winners are the companies that sell stuff to consumers that use a lot of labour right now that can be replaced. All the robot stuff and AI software will get commoditized. Heck were is even the moat in something like software when you can replace it in an eyeblink by some AI generated code?

Spot on. Better and better AI will commodify most industries that are assetlight and do not have protected IP (like Nintendo etc). That introduces insane uncertainty over longer timeframes, lets say 10-15 years. You still have network effects that are a moat (facebook, tencent etc) but many things will face pricing pressure.

[lnofeisone]

22 minutes ago, Pelagic said:

Isn't inference though where the rubber meets the road so to speak when it comes to end users? The majority of users aren't training custom models but rather using existing models for inference to enhance productivity or build things with it. Companies developing AI models are trying to sell them to users as SaaS, get them hooked on the utility of a limited free tier and slowly let it worm its way into their life until they need the pro plan . It just seems to me there's an appeal to "owning" an open source model to use locally vs. paying a subscription fee for life to one of the big AI players. And back to my original point about this allowing organizations hesitant to utilize AI because fear the data they're providing it might end up elsewhere, having it run on local hardware is a solution at a fairly reasonable price.

 

 

Inference is where the rubber meets the road but it's a volume game. I wouldn't be surprised if inference is going to be the new browser for big tech to bring people into their ecosystem. 

[Longnose]

1 hour ago, james22 said:

 

All it costs is your privacy.

 

 

IMO anyone who believes they have privacy anywhere on the internet is very naive.

[james22]

1 hour ago, Luke said:

OpenAI will do the same, US government will do the same. Literally no difference.

 

55 minutes ago, Longnose said:

IMO anyone who believes they have privacy anywhere on the internet is very naive.

 

1. You can assert your data rights in the US. Not China.

 

2. The data collected is used differently by profit-driven companies and hostile foreign governments.

 

[Luke]

1 hour ago, james22 said:

1. You can assert your data rights in the US. Not China.

Its okay with me if someone in china knows that i am looking for a new GPU or whats the best way to install something in my house. I am not using the language model for anything privat, its not a messaging app, i use it to get factoids etc.

1 hour ago, james22 said:

2. The data collected is used differently by profit-driven companies and hostile foreign governments.

ChatGPT is profit-driven and the chinese government is not hostile towards me, why would they be? They want me to come there as a tourist, spend money and praise China. There is literally no difference for me to use a chinese language model or a US one.

[james22]

1 hour ago, Luke said:

ChatGPT is profit-driven and the chinese government is not hostile towards me, why would they be? They want me to come there as a tourist, spend money and praise China. There is literally no difference for me to use a chinese language model or a US one.

 

Are you a business or person of any significance, Luke?

 

 

[Blake Hampton]

12 minutes ago, james22 said:

Are you a business or person of any significance, Luke?

Who gives a fuck?

[james22]

48 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

Who gives a fuck?

 

China does.

 

It's easy to dismiss privacy concerns when you're insignificant.

[Spekulatius]

10 hours ago, james22 said:

 

 

1. You can assert your data rights in the US. Not China.

 

2. The data collected is used differently by profit-driven companies and hostile foreign governments.

 

Actually, you can’t. The US has no law governing the use of data. It’s is one of the few countries with out comprehensive data regulation.

[james22]

52 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

Actually, you can’t. The US has no law governing the use of data. It’s is one of the few countries with out comprehensive data regulation.

 

There is no comprehensive national privacy law in the United States. However, the US does have a number of largely sector-specific privacy and data security laws at the federal level, as well as many more privacy laws at the state (and local) level.

 

https://www.dlapiperdataprotection.com/index.html?t=authority&c=US