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[ourkid8]

Qatar is offering Iran $12 billion the moment they sign. Iran is getting a signing bonus called a humanitarian loan  (Obama released $1.7B in comparison and @cubsfan was saying it was a bad deal) 

 

Obama discussing JCPOA: 

 

https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2054651335207755833/video/1?s=46

Edited May 25 by ourkid8

[ourkid8]

Israel is going on a temper tantrum and intensifying strikes on Lebanon (blanket striking civilians) to Sabotage the peace deal. Joe Kent called out exactly what Israel will try to do. Trump really needs to lay down the law and put his foot down with them to give peace a chance. 
 

https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/2041659572763464002/video/1?s=46

Edited May 25 by ourkid8

[73 Reds]

2 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

It's just wonderful to have your approval.

Cubs, I'm slowly coming around to your way of thinking about Trump.  Have been spending time lately in places where the chorus here would have us believe Trump is universally hated.  Yet the people I speak with tend to either like him or could care less because they have more important issues to think about, despite gas prices much higher than anywhere in the US.  When we're not being lectured by those who claim to know better, most folks can think for themselves and form their own opinions with the common sense they were born with.  

[whiskybravo]

Look how the flag is flown in front of a post office in NYC on Memorial Day.  

[cubsfan]

41 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Cubs, I'm slowly coming around to your way of thinking about Trump.  Have been spending time lately in places where the chorus here would have us believe Trump is universally hated.  Yet the people I speak with tend to either like him or could care less because they have more important issues to think about, despite gas prices much higher than anywhere in the US.  When we're not being lectured by those who claim to know better, most folks can think for themselves and form their own opinions with the common sense they were born with.  

 

Well I think Trump is an acquired taste for many people. That's the way it worked for me.

 

The last couple have weeks have been kind of historic whereby the RINOs like Cassidy and Massey have gotten the boot. It's becoming the MAGA party now. I think many republicans are tired of "talkers" and inaction on the part of DC and republicans.  Just do something or get out. Trump is a man of action - like him, tolerate him or hate him.

 

He will never be a DC swamp rat - and that's good enough for me.

[Sloanes Teddy]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

Cubs, I'm slowly coming around to your way of thinking about Trump.  Have been spending time lately in places where the chorus here would have us believe Trump is universally hated.  Yet the people I speak with tend to either like him or could care less because they have more important issues to think about, despite gas prices much higher than anywhere in the US.  When we're not being lectured by those who claim to know better, most folks can think for themselves and form their own opinions with the common sense they were born with.  

I am neither lecturing nor do I think I know better. I actually agree with you that Trump is not universally hated. If he could run again I would not bet against him.

[ourkid8]

It took some time but trump finally capitulated to Irans demand that the Uranium will stay in Iran. 
 

Am I allowed to say that US unconditionally surrendered to each and every one of Irans terms? - you guys all laughed at me when I told you this would happen. 

 

“You go in and take it out” - Nethanyahu on Iran enriched uranium  
 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 25 by ourkid8

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

It took some time but trump finally capitulated to Irans demand that the Uranium will stay in Iran. 
 

Am I allowed to say that US unconditionally surrendered to each and every one of Irans terms? - you guys all laughed at me when I told you this would happen. 

 

“You go in and take it out” - Nethanyahu on Iran enriched uranium  
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take all the victory laps you want.  The devil is in the details. IF a bunch of people don't actually get killed, the nuclear capability is disarmed, and the SOH is opened - you call it anything you like.

 

It will be good to get this over with.

[ourkid8]

48 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Take all the victory laps you want.  The devil is in the details. IF a bunch of people don't actually get killed, the nuclear capability is disarmed, and the SOH is opened - you call it anything you like.

 

It will be good to get this over with.

 

I would really appreciate your honest feedback on the following questions as I am puzzled: 

 

U.S. intelligence agencies reportedly warned that aggressive military action and regime-change efforts against Iran were unlikely to collapse the government. Israel advocated an an approach, including support for dissidents and strikes targeting senior leadership including supreme leader and then they will overthrow the government and take over the country. (Something you would see in the moves) Trump aligned with Israel despite those warnings from his own intelligence. I see this as prioritizing Israel input over U.S. intelligence consensus which has consistently been wrong at every step of the way. 

1. How can you be MAGA when the priority is not America but Israel with advice that is consistently wrong and one sided 

2. Since Israel consistently fails in military operations, why continue to align with them? 
3. Even in the ground invasions in Iran, Israel never agreed to put boots on the ground and let Americans to do the dirty work. 

if the tables were turned, we would consider our government as cowards and sellouts. It’s exactly why we want nothing to do with any foreign actors in our country. 

Edited May 26 by ourkid8

[cubsfan]

52 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

 

I would really appreciate your honest feedback on the following questions as I am puzzled: 

 

U.S. intelligence agencies reportedly warned that aggressive military action and regime-change efforts against Iran were unlikely to collapse the government. Israel advocated an an approach, including support for dissidents and strikes targeting senior leadership including supreme leader and then they will overthrow the government and take over the country. (Something you would see in the moves) Trump aligned with Israel despite those warnings from his own intelligence. I see this as prioritizing Israel input over U.S. intelligence consensus which has consistently been wrong at every step of the way. 

1. How can you be MAGA when the priority is not America but Israel with advice that is consistently wrong and one sided 

2. Since Israel consistently fails in military operations, why continue to align with them? 
3. Even in the ground invasions in Iran, Israel never agreed to put boots on the ground and let Americans to do the dirty work. 

if the tables were turned, we would consider our government as cowards and sellouts. It’s exactly why we want nothing to do with any foreign actors in our country. 

 

Yeah, honestly - there are a whole lot of assumptions and speculation in your question.

 

There is a very messy negotiation going on now for months, with all kinds of deception and talking points.  I've absolutely no clue what is true and what is not.

 

So it's better to just see what happens instead of micromanage every little agenda item.

[Gregmal]

5 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

Look how the flag is flown in front of a post office in NYC on Memorial Day.  

The difference in values between parts of the country is just staggering. They abhor traditional families, view anything American centric as embarrassing, and generally have little motivation to do anything without thinking about what they get in return. 

[Parsad]

8 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Well, yes. If Iran decided to stop being a societal menace, they would be welcomed into the modern world and allowed to prosper LOL

 

100%!  That was the whole point of all of this.  But according to Ourkid8, they weren't a menace...just minding their own business as those sneaky, little Israelis kept picking a fight.  

 

The irony is that no one is happier for the Iranian people and the world in general if this happens, than the same people critics are portraying as Zionist propagandists!  

 

All that being said, this was still a shitshow from the start to the end!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

8 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Yup, it's good to have Trump as President.

 

After the 2 tier justice system enacted by Biden/Garland - it's good to fight fire with fire.

 

Violent felons in sanctuary cities or rioting for George Floyd??  Give

em a pass - or cash less bail and a slap on the wrist for hundreds.

 

Trespass in the Capitol to protest?  Lock 'em up and throw away the key. 100% conviction rate in D.C.    No mercy.

 

Oh give it a rest for one day...tired of the whole Trump was a victim bullshit.  The only person who was a bigger victim than Trump was Alphonse Capone!  Oh yeah, and Cain...Abel was such a shithead as we all know.    Cheers!

[Parsad]

5 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

Look how the flag is flown in front of a post office in NYC on Memorial Day.  

 

Here's one from LaPorte, Texas:

 

[Parsad]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

 

I would really appreciate your honest feedback on the following questions as I am puzzled: 

 

U.S. intelligence agencies reportedly warned that aggressive military action and regime-change efforts against Iran were unlikely to collapse the government. Israel advocated an an approach, including support for dissidents and strikes targeting senior leadership including supreme leader and then they will overthrow the government and take over the country. (Something you would see in the moves) Trump aligned with Israel despite those warnings from his own intelligence. I see this as prioritizing Israel input over U.S. intelligence consensus which has consistently been wrong at every step of the way. 

1. How can you be MAGA when the priority is not America but Israel with advice that is consistently wrong and one sided 

2. Since Israel consistently fails in military operations, why continue to align with them? 
3. Even in the ground invasions in Iran, Israel never agreed to put boots on the ground and let Americans to do the dirty work. 

if the tables were turned, we would consider our government as cowards and sellouts. It’s exactly why we want nothing to do with any foreign actors in our country. 

 

Actually it didn't work because Trump TACO'ed.  I don't like how he went about doing it, but if Trump had continued bombing and took out infrastructure and chose to hit some civilian infrastructure targets, this would be over last month. 

 

You should be grateful that Trump backed down, otherwise this would have been ugly for the Iranian people, we would have seen a ground war with mass casualties on both sides (far more on the Iranian side) and not only regime change, but the U.S. taking over completely.  Not something I would have approved from the beginning, nor even half way, but with the result as it is...the world may regret long-term not taking advantage of this opportunity 10-20-30 years down the road, when this regime eventually starts their underground programs again and has even more money to fund terrorist activity around the world. 

 

A tiger cannot change its stripes and this regime will be back to its evil ways once again!  The next time, we may see Israel fire a nuclear weapon at them if there is a war.  Which all could have been avoided if this thing was taken to its conclusion.  I'm not a war hawk, but this opportunity will not come again!  Cheers!

[dwy000]

49 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

The difference in values between parts of the country is just staggering. They abhor traditional families, view anything American centric as embarrassing, and generally have little motivation to do anything without thinking about what they get in return. 

Thats reading an awful lot into a twisted flag on federal government property during a long weekend holiday. 

[Parsad]

59 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

The difference in values between parts of the country is just staggering. They abhor traditional families, view anything American centric as embarrassing, and generally have little motivation to do anything without thinking about what they get in return. 

 

Yeah, this is a typical generalization that we constantly hear from both sides.  You can find thousands of poorly flown flags all over the internet.  The North or Democrats have no monopoly on this, just as I posted with the torn flag in La Porte, Texas.  Cheers! 

[Parsad]

22 hours ago, Parsad said:

Why more vaccine research is needed...not less...not undermined!  Cheers!

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ebola-spreads-across-congo-as-flights-halted-supplies-run-low-003054553.html

 

How disorganized Trump's health administration is:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/25/politics/global-virus-response-trump-administration

 

Cheers!

[whiskybravo]

1 hour ago, Parsad said:

 

Here's one from LaPorte, Texas:

 

Which led to community uproar.  
https://www.khou.com/article/news/la-porte-residents-feel-tattered-torn-american-flag-flying-above-post-office-is-disgraceful/285-320997224

[whiskybravo]

58 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Thats reading an awful lot into a twisted flag on federal government property during a long weekend holiday. 

Take another look.  That flag is torn and near completely detached from the flagpole.  It’s been that way for a while, not just this weekend.

 

“According to the U.S. Flag Code, which provides guidelines for the care and display of the flag, the flag is considered a symbol of a living country. When an American flag becomes worn, tattered, or unkempt to the point where it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, traditional etiquette suggests it should be retired in a respectful manner.”

[dwy000]

51 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

Take another look.  That flag is torn and near completely detached from the flagpole.  It’s been that way for a while, not just this weekend.

 

“According to the U.S. Flag Code, which provides guidelines for the care and display of the flag, the flag is considered a symbol of a living country. When an American flag becomes worn, tattered, or unkempt to the point where it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, traditional etiquette suggests it should be retired in a respectful manner.”

Its literally on federal government property and it's their flag.  Maybe it says more about the federal government than about the people of NY abhoring family values. 

[Parsad]

50 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

Take another look.  That flag is torn and near completely detached from the flagpole.  It’s been that way for a while, not just this weekend.

 

“According to the U.S. Flag Code, which provides guidelines for the care and display of the flag, the flag is considered a symbol of a living country. When an American flag becomes worn, tattered, or unkempt to the point where it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, traditional etiquette suggests it should be retired in a respectful manner.”

 

What does this have to do with anything?  An unkempt flag is an indication of societal disregard within a welfare state...is that the implication here?  Or is it as simple as a government building hasn't replaced their torn/tattered flag yet?  Cheers!

[Maverick47]

2 hours ago, Parsad said:

What does this have to do with anything?  An unkempt flag is an indication of societal disregard within a welfare state...is that the implication here?  Or is it as simple as a government building hasn't replaced their torn/tattered flag yet?  Cheers!

The US Postal Service is overseen by a board of governors appointed by the President.  This is a federal issue.

[whiskybravo]

5 hours ago, dwy000 said:

Its literally on federal government property and it's their flag.  Maybe it says more about the federal government than about the people of NY abhoring family values. 

 

5 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

What does this have to do with anything?  An unkempt flag is an indication of societal disregard within a welfare state...is that the implication here?  Or is it as simple as a government building hasn't replaced their torn/tattered flag yet?  Cheers!

 

3 hours ago, Maverick47 said:

The US Postal Service is overseen by a board of governors appointed by the President.  This is a federal issue.

It’s the responsibility of local USPS management.  USPS guidance specifically tells “Postmasters and other managers” to regularly inspect flags, replace worn ones, and ensure they are displayed correctly.  
 

https://news.usps.com/2023/10/19/flag-check/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

https://news.usps.com/2015/05/18/handle-with-care-9/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

I try to look at things as objectively as I can and I’ll admit that I don’t know what is going on in the mind of the branch manager.  Maybe she is just disorganized or inefficient.  I spend time on Memorial Day contemplating its implications.  The condition of those flags and the way they are displayed offends me.  

Edited May 26 by whiskybravo

[cubsfan]

9 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Oh give it a rest for one day...tired of the whole Trump was a victim bullshit.  The only person who was a bigger victim than Trump was Alphonse Capone!  Oh yeah, and Cain...Abel was such a shithead as we all know.    Cheers!

 

It's got nothing to do with Trump is a victim.

 

It's hundreds of American citizens that have been wronged via disgusting political prosections. 

 

I wasn't the one that started posting all the bullshit about the Restitution Fund - you did!!