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[dwy000]

Just now, Sweet said:

Don’t the authorities have the files?  So if there is a case to be made they can make it.  In most other investigations they don’t need to make the files public.

You mean Pam Bondi?????  Ha ha ha ha ha.  That was funny. 

 

Thats the problem.  They aren't making the case to release the files.  They are doing everything in their power not to.  Despite promising it.  

 

This is now in the hands of Congress.  We will see how many of them vote to keep the files secret vs release them. Its a completely bipartisan issue with over 80% of voters from both sides supporting release.  

[Sweet]

3 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

There is no reason to make the files public in a case like this if innocent people can be hurt.  And any innocent people will most definitely be hurt if their names are associated with Epstein.

Yeh, but I can also see why there might be a public interest to release the files.

 

1 minute ago, dwy000 said:

You mean Pam Bondi?????  Ha ha ha ha ha.  That was funny. 

 

Thats the problem.  They aren't making the case to release the files.  They are doing everything in their power not to.  Despite promising it.  

 

This is now in the hands of Congress.  We will see how many of them vote to keep the files secret vs release them. Its a completely bipartisan issue with over 80% of voters from both sides supporting release.  

Whats the story about Pam Bondi?  Don't get the reference.

[dwy000]

2 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Yeh, but I can also see why there might be a public interest to release the files.

 

Whats the story about Pam Bondi?  Don't get the reference.

She's the one sitting on the files and wont release them without Trumps approval. 

[Gregmal]

41 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

And yet youre the one wanting to do a search going back for years to see if and what I commented on.  Like my posting on an investment board is the gating factor in their release.  

 

Its even more important now because the pedophile called Trump his best friend and Trump has shown his willingness to do almost anything to stop their release.   A president backed into a corner and willing to do anything to save himself is not good for the country. 

Nah I just thought it could be relevant if you’re denying TDS, that maybe you had a legitimate case. 6 years of history where maybe there were, say, 150 posts on such topic, and then perhaps maybe during the much shorter period under Trump of about 9 months, maybe 25 posts. This would lend credibility to your claim that you didn’t just catch rabies in January. 

[73 Reds]

1 minute ago, Sweet said:

Yeh, but I can also see why there might be a public interest to release the files.

 

Whats the story about Pam Bondi?  Don't get the reference.

@Sweet  Of course there is public interest!  But the potential harm to innocents vastly outweighs any benefit of releasing hoards of documents, etc.. without ensuring that innocents will not be affected.  That is why anything found must be thoroughly investigated, scrutinized, authenticated and essentially proven to be accurate before being released.

[dwy000]

3 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Nah I just thought it could be relevant if you’re denying TDS, that maybe you had a legitimate case. 6 years of history where maybe there were, say, 150 posts on such topic, and then perhaps maybe during the much shorter period under Trump of about 9 months, maybe 25 posts. This would lend credibility to your claim that you didn’t just catch rabies in January. 

Oh I will be.the first to admit TDS or whatever you want to call it. Thinking Trump.is the most incompetent, unqualified, unintelligent, immoral and dishonest person ever to hold elected office is a source of pride to me.  And this is from a former Republican. 

 

But unlike cultists it doesnt stop me from thinking independently and being able to separate the person from the issue. 

 

Pedophilia is an issue that shouldnt divide people though. 

[dwy000]

8 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

@Sweet  Of course there is public interest!  But the potential harm to innocents vastly outweighs any benefit of releasing hoards of documents, etc.. without ensuring that innocents will not be affected.  That is why anything found must be thoroughly investigated, scrutinized, authenticated and essentially proven to be accurate before being released.

Oh and trusting people who report to Trump and are devoted to Trump (looking at you Pam!) To accurately scrutinize and investigate information that could implicate Trump is just naive. 

[Sweet]

18 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Oh and trusting people who report to Trump and are devoted to Trump (looking at you Pam!) To accurately scrutinize and investigate information that could implicate Trump is just naive. 

Yeh but as others have said, Biden admin was less than a year ago.  It’s no so easy to hide behind Trump admin here when a completely different admin, who hated Trump, didn’t release them either.

[dwy000]

2 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Yeh but as others have said, Biden admin was less than a year ago.  It’s no so easy to hide behind Trump admin here when a completely different admin, who hated Trump, didn’t release them either.

Biden has never been tied to the Epstein files. And if someone in his administration buried or obstructed their release they should be prosecuted fully.

 

I mean come on.  We are all intelligent people.  Can we not agree that pedophilia is bad and everyone connected to this should be held fully accountable?  The fact that people are twisting themselves to protect pedophiles by not releasing the info because it might harm Trump is simply insane and true cult behavior.  

[Mephistopheles]

It's obvious why the files weren't released under Biden in order to sink Trump. The files implicate people across the political spectrum and everyone thought the Trump era was over post 2020. Why go after Trump when he's gone, if that means implicating friends such as Bill Clinton, Larry Summers?

 

This also means that it's not necessarily correct that there is no (further) damaging Trump info in the files.

[Sweet]

15 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Biden has never been tied to the Epstein files. And if someone in his administration buried or obstructed their release they should be prosecuted fully.

 

I mean come on.  We are all intelligent people.  Can we not agree that pedophilia is bad and everyone connected to this should be held fully accountable?  The fact that people are twisting themselves to protect pedophiles by not releasing the info because it might harm Trump is simply insane and true cult behavior.  

How is person’s position on releasing the Epstein files somehow related to their views on protecting pedophiles?  Or that the release of the files is a requirement for prosecution of pedophiles?  Is this another case of pretending to not know how things work?

[cubsfan]

18 minutes ago, Mephistopheles said:

It's obvious why the files weren't released under Biden in order to sink Trump. The files implicate people across the political spectrum and everyone thought the Trump era was over post 2020. Why go after Trump when he's gone, if that means implicating friends such as Bill Clinton, Larry Summers?

 

This also means that it's not necessarily correct that there is no (further) damaging Trump info in the files.

 

Knowing the dirty lawbreaking scumbags in the Biden administration - you can be sure they would have selectively "leaked it" if there was any chance they could have sunk Trump.  As soon as he announce he was running in 2022 - they unleashed everything else - 5 phony lawsuits, attempts to bankrupt him, put him in prison,  wiretapped hundreds of his supporters, etc.

[Mephistopheles]

9 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Knowing the dirty lawbreaking scumbags in the Biden administration - you can be sure they would have selectively "leaked it" if there was any chance they could have sunk Trump.  As soon as he announce he was running in 2022 - they unleashed everything else - 5 phony lawsuits, attempts to bankrupt him, put him in prison,  wiretapped hundreds of his supporters, etc.

 

I think the idea was that the very real (not phony) criminal indictments for Jan 6 and failing to hand over classified documents would be enough to deter people for voting him into office against a guy he already lost to. They failed to see the dedication of the cult (and in fairness the dementia of Biden).

[dwy000]

18 minutes ago, Sweet said:

How is person’s position on releasing the Epstein files somehow related to their views on protecting pedophiles?  Or that the release of the files is a requirement for prosecution of pedophiles?  Is this another case of pretending to not know how things work?

Epstein is probably the most famous convicted pedophile in history.  He was tied to wealthy, famous, powerful people who it appears were possibly blackmailed.  Releasing the files that detail his life and his deeds and going after those who were involved or covered it up should not be controversial. Especially when one of the is the President of the United States!!

 

The question is why you would oppose releasing the files - especially if doing so proves innocence or exonerate you.  This is one of the most horrific crimes a person can do.  

Edited November 13, 2025 by dwy000

[Mephistopheles]

3 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Epstein is probably the most famous convicted pedophile in history.  He was tied to wealthy, famous, powerful people who it appears were possibly blackmailed.  Releasing the files that detail his life and his deeds and going after those who were involved or covered it up should not be controversial.

 

The question is why you would oppose releasing the files - especially if doing so proves innocence or exonerate you.  This is one of the most horrific crimes a person can do.  

 

Really, why would a pussy grabber who walks in on teen dressing rooms have done anything bad in his tenure as bff with a sex trafficker!

 

Maybe there isn't anything worse in the files, maybe there is, idk, but one thing is for sure - if there is damaging evidence, "what about Bill Clinton?" will be the new line from the cult.

Edited November 13, 2025 by Mephistopheles

[Sweet]

4 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Epstein is probably the most famous convicted pedophile in history.  He was tied to wealthy, famous, powerful people who it appears were possibly blackmailed.  Releasing the files that detail his life and his deeds and going after those who were involved or covered it up should not be controversial. Especially when one of the is the President of the United States!!

 

The question is why you would oppose releasing the files - especially if doing so proves innocence or exonerate you.  This is one of the most horrific crimes a person can do.  

I don’t care one way or another if the files aren’t released.  If there is a compelling reason to release do so, if not then don’t.

 

But let’s stop pretending please that if you don’t want them to be released that your motive is to protect pedophiles.  That is some kind of f’d up framing.

 

’if you don’t think the files should be released you’re protecting pedos’ - come on.

 

Edited November 13, 2025 by Sweet

[dwy000]

6 minutes ago, Sweet said:

I don’t care one way or another if the files aren’t released.  If there is a compelling reason to release do so, if not then don’t.

 

But let’s stop pretending please that if you don’t want them to be released that your motive is to protect pedophiles.  That is some kind of f’d up framing.

 

’if you don’t think the files should be released you’re protecting pedos’ - come on.

 

What other possible reason would you have for not only not wanting them to be released but for many in the administration, actively working to stop their release?

[Sweet]

23 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

What other possible reason would you have for not only not wanting them to be released but for many in the administration, actively working to stop their release?

Red posted a plausible reason which for some reason you choose to ignore.

 

I haven’t seen the files, so I don’t know.  
 

You haven’t seen the files, so you don’t know either.

 

[Gregmal]

47 minutes ago, Sweet said:

But let’s stop pretending please that if you don’t want them to be released that your motive is to protect pedophiles.  That is some kind of f’d up framing.

I mean it is the standard course thing they do, which at this point is lie. Because I mean I’m sure when these schmentos view the same files multiple federal prosecutors have, they’ll have the whit and wherewithal to arrive at a totally different(highly educated) and (cough) nonpartisan conclusion. 

Until then regardless of what people say or do, they’ll keep reiterating that anyone who didn’t say a word for 4 years but now is rabid, is waging war on pedos and everyone else is just part of a coverup lol. How novel 

 

Edited November 13, 2025 by Gregmal

[dwy000]

10 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

I mean it is the standard course thing they do, which at this point is lie. Because I mean I’m sure when these schmentos view the same files multiple federal prosecutors have, they’ll have the whit and wherewithal to arrive at a totally different(highly educated) and (cough) nonpartisan conclusion. 

Until then regardless of what people say or do, they’ll keep reiterating that anyone who didn’t say a word for 4 years but now is rabid, is waging war on pedos and everyone else is just part of a coverup lol. How novel 

 

I do really enjoy how all the cultists (and people i thought could stay above the cult and think independently on issues) find it more prudent to spend their time attacking me for supporting the release of the files than just saying "yup, let's shine a light and go after all those jnvolved in protecting pedos". When your desire for political division and to "own the libs" exceeds the desire to prosecute pedophiles.....

 

As additional details come out (and they will) and the party moves away from Trump it will be fascinating to see at what point people here decide to publicly get off the Trump bus. 

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, Mephistopheles said:

 

I think the idea was that the very real (not phony) criminal indictments for Jan 6 and failing to hand over classified documents would be enough to deter people for voting him into office against a guy he already lost to. They failed to see the dedication of the cult (and in fairness the dementia of Biden).

 

Oh my - the whole January 6 crap is falling apart. The pipe bomb looks like it was planted by the Capitol Police.  The denial of the FBI involvement in the crowd - when it looks like there were 100 FBI plants as instigators.  Nancy Pelosi's refusal to allow the National Guard to assist when Trump requested them.

 

Give it a few more months - it's going to be a pretty good unraveling

[Gregmal]

39 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

I do really enjoy how all the cultists (and people i thought could stay above the cult and think independently on issues) find it more prudent to spend their time attacking me for supporting the release of the files than just saying "yup, let's shine a light and go after all those jnvolved in protecting pedos". When your desire for political division and to "own the libs" exceeds the desire to prosecute pedophiles.....

 

As additional details come out (and they will) and the party moves away from Trump it will be fascinating to see at what point people here decide to publicly get off the Trump bus. 

Lmfao except I’ve already told you I’m all for releasing the files. And I’ve moved on with my life. I encourage you to do the same.

[adesigar]

59 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

I do really enjoy how all the cultists (and people i thought could stay above the cult and think independently on issues) find it more prudent to spend their time attacking me for supporting the release of the files than just saying "yup, let's shine a light and go after all those jnvolved in protecting pedos". When your desire for political division and to "own the libs" exceeds the desire to prosecute pedophiles.....

 

As additional details come out (and they will) and the party moves away from Trump it will be fascinating to see at what point people here decide to publicly get off the Trump bus. 

 

Remember what Trump said

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/23/464129029/donald-trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters

 

you are trying to reason with those people. Don’t bother. 

Edit - if on the other you enjoy reading the comic stupidity of these posters then enjoy. Their posts remind me of the leave Britney alone meme. 

 

Edited November 13, 2025 by adesigar

[Sweet]

1 hour ago, dwy000 said:

I do really enjoy how all the cultists (and people i thought could stay above the cult and think independently on issues) find it more prudent to spend their time attacking me for supporting the release of the files than just saying "yup, let's shine a light and go after all those jnvolved in protecting pedos". When your desire for political division and to "own the libs" exceeds the desire to prosecute pedophiles.....

 

As additional details come out (and they will) and the party moves away from Trump it will be fascinating to see at what point people here decide to publicly get off the Trump bus. 

You want the files to be released - fine - leave it there.  

No need to be saying that those who might see it different want to protect pedos.

 

It’s a weird narrative you’re creating just to get annoyed at people.

So far as I can tell, nobody ITT is actually against the files being released btw.

 

 

Edited November 13, 2025 by Sweet

[dwy000]

27 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Lmfao except I’ve already told you I’m all for releasing the files. And I’ve moved on with my life. I encourage you to do the same.

I have a daughter. Pedophiles are an issue i struggle to let go of. Especially when they are President.