Artificial Intelligence

[Spekulatius]

3 hours ago, gfp said:

 

I don't know the answer to that.  I currently pay $22 per month to OpenAI, I paid $99 for a year of Gemini (limited time offer), and I paid something like $220 for year of Anthropic's Claude "Pro"

 

I think Anthropic is the most disciplined about not giving away token usage for a big loss.

 

I'm not investing in any of the model companies and it is possible that they end up a little like the Ford CEO shaking in his boots at the thought of Chinese cars entering the US auto market.

 

So far, Anthropic has done very well finding paying customers and I personally can't imagine going back to lower tier or free versions of these subscriptions.  These are a phenomenal value.

 

 

I assume you use them as a consumer - what are your use cases for the pro  AIversion. I use notebookXM, Gemini and so far have not really exceeded what the free version give to me.

 

I would love to use the Claude or a Gemini Pro at work but can’t because we are limited to Copilot which I have found mostly useless. I think Gemini on my phone is better than the paid for Copilot at work on my laptop.

[nsx5200]

AI is currently in the promotional phase, so a lot of it is given away for free, if not below cost.  Just like how cloud/photo storage companies were giving away spaces with few conditions attached during the market share grab phase.  After a while, the service providers will shift into profit/cost optimization, and free suddenly comes with a lot more conditions that steers people towards paid solutions.

 

The fact that many of these AI/token providers have already started imposing some limits already, even on their paid subscriptions, portends to some serious cost issues.  The primary lever for determining the eventual winner(s) of this AI war may be cost.

[Peregrine]

Using AI to write a white paper about AI adoption...what could go wrong

 

https://www.ft.com/content/b3828e92-4961-4b39-84f0-c42f33be3c3f?syn-25a6b1a6=1

[bargainman]

On 6/11/2026 at 8:03 AM, Libs said:

 

gfp,

 

How much would you be willing to pay? I'm trying to figure out if users will ever cough up enough to cover Anthropic's (et al) costs....

 

I'm kind of curious if anyone here is a developer using AI?  Or in another field where AI, especially agents are making a huge push?

 

Regarding "How much would you be willing to pay?", that's a reasonable question.  But the ones to ask are, "How much does using this tool increase your productivity, and how much does that productivity cost/deliver in value?".  There's nuance there, but if you're a software dev making 100K annually, maybe driving 250k in revenue and using agents increase your production by 12%, is 1k a month a bad investment?  What if it 2x's your production?  Now, does that 2x in production result in 2x revenue?  probably not?  Uber CEO seems to think that not.

 

But it sure writes a lot of code.  To me so far the biggest boon has been in 0 to 1 projects.  I've created about 5(?) projects I would've never been able to even start.  Did they increase revenue?  Not all of them, plus I'm deeper down in the org, so there's no one-to-one.  The actual production code is a bit harder to quantify.  Teams still need to figure out how to get the massive amounts of code properly deployed, but that's a known bottleneck and will keep evolving.  i.e. the models are really just the baseline right now.  It's the agents and frameworks that are making the difference going forward...

[MungerWunger]

The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees.

 

The net effect of this order is that we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers to ensure compliance.

 

Access to all other Claude models is not affected.

 

https://t.co/bwn0sximKZ

[gfp]

25 minutes ago, MungerWunger said:

The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees.

 

The net effect of this order is that we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers to ensure compliance.

 

Access to all other Claude models is not affected.

 

https://t.co/bwn0sximKZ

 

It's too bad, I was liking Fable 5 this week.  My current favorite.  It's shut off for now