Mephistopheles

The extremism in Islam is mainstream as opposed to other religions. Forget the violent attacks on non Muslims, and just consider apostasy (leaving the religion). Xerxes mentioned Malaysia being more moderate than the Arab world. Well, it happens to be written in numerous laws in Malaysia that apostasy from Islam is punishable by death or jail (although in fairness this is considered unconstitutional and isn't enforced). But what is constitutional is that if you want to leave the religion, you have to get approval from the Shariah court. And the kicker is that this doesn't apply to folks converting TO Islam from other religions. And this is in Malaysia. In many other Muslim countries, apostasy is criminalized often by death. And where it is not criminalized, one can be shamed or disowned (or worse) by their family/community for leaving the religion. This happens everywhere including America and Europe. This isn't a healthy religion, it's a cult. Reminds me of all those in the GOP who refuse to stand up to the dear leader out of fear for their lives. And those who do face death threats (MTG, Mitt Romney, etc). But here's where I've lost Cubs et al.

Well if you agree there isn't much illegal voting, than having a bunch of illegals in your district is irrelevant for gerrymandering purposes. Are you referring to the census that takes place every 10 years? Illegals do count for that IIRC. Regardless I think the open borders stemmed from wokeism and was a backlash against Trump's xenophobic dog whistling, not a grand conspiracy. Of course the correct answer to deal with immigration was the way Obama did it but that wasn't sexy to either side.

You mean in terms of illegal voting? Very few instances of that. Yes the open borders were bad - I just don't think it threatened the rule of law itself.

100%, I think the rational people (moderates, RINOs) acknowledge that. Sadly most of the left didn't, and repeated the same mistakes pre 2024 as they did in 2016 and they continue to do now lol. Having said that, I do think the backlash by the MAGA cult is more about "owning the libs" vs. voting based on policy. That's why nothing he says or does matters to the core 32% base or whatever the number is.

I'm probably more libertarian leaning than most even on this board (I loathe taxes) and also spending (Obamacare was terrible for the country IMO). So yes in any given arena/sporting event I'm all for the fiscal conservatives. Just I think this tyrant is a threat to the arena itself. So the policies are nearly irrelevant IMO and temporary tax/spending hikes is tolerable in the short run.

They are perverted clowns who give the rest of the TDS folks a bad rep. But this is a perfect example of voting on emotion rather than reason, and national vs. local politics. My kid isn't getting a sex change regardless of who is President!

Not referring to my friend Cubs, but I think that in general many Trump lovers don't have the moral compasses to accept how much of a deranged tyrant he is...thus it's easier to take any of the bad things he does and compare it to the worst things of any particular previous President has done. And then they can conclude that it's the same old story as always, justifying their support in their own minds. Only problem is that he is the full package of bad. Take all the bad things about Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton...Trump has all of them! So if you pick out any one Trump flaw, it's easy to find something comparable in history. Well maybe except the insurrection part.

Really? What’re the deets, I can’t seem to find the story.

One of my proudest moments as an investor - buying WFC in the $20s knowing that Buffett was selling.

Why did Buffett sell Apple and BofA? Both in his circle of competence obviously, and at least in Apple's case, seems to have a massive moat that isn't going anywhere. Why sell and pay taxes when you have hundreds of billions sitting around? Meanwhile he has a "forever holding" in Coke and of course all the wholly owned businesses. Very silly move.

Lol, now Bessent saying "sometime next year", but that's because Bartiromo asked if it's sometime next year. Maybe you guys are right. Just an enormous amount of gaslighting.

It's a religion of conquest, not of peace. Most Muslims are fine people sure, but the religion itself is pretty toxic. I say this as an agnostic/atheist who thinks all religions are stupid and a waste. But this one takes the cake in being insane.

Islam is poisonous idealogy. Why it’s treated as a moral equivalent to other religions is beyond me..

Guys, come on Obama had the drone strikes but remember when Harry Truman nuked Japan? Why isn’t anyone talking about that?

That’s the most anti Trump thing I’ve ever heard you say. TDS alert!!

Perhaps we should put a hard cut off date. If Trump doesn’t deliver by x date we dump him. Kind of like a relationship. id think it has to be before the midterms some time.

Yea. Definitely not a dictator:

https://fortune.com/2025/12/04/bill-gates-childhood-death-rate-under-5-first-reversal-this-century/ Credit where credit is due. Those DOGE cuts showing real results. Put together with the tariffs, I’m hoping for no income tax in the near future thanks to Trump and Musk.

Lutnick pumping these sardines this AM and not a peep on the thread? Definite fatigue for sure. idk, it would be insane for them to do NOTHING at this point. But, we’ve all been bag holding for 17 years so I can see why it’s boy who cried wolf (the wolf being a good thing) Honestly: Ackman, the master of short term derivatives, should write a $10 mn check for the Trump ballroom, just in time for Pershing’s returns to look fantastic for the annual letter. But ackman knows what he’s doing and obviously this is the only reason he’s so MAGA. So I trust him to do us a good favor here…

Interesting to see you acknowledging this and this whole immigration thing, and you’re pretty much saying exactly what the rational anti Trumpers say. Which is you can have a good immigration policy while also being humane. Kinda like the way Obama did it. But the point here is not that Trump made a simple mistake - is that the thugs who are in charge of his policies live and breathe the inhumanity. Miller and Noem. And of course the most common response on the MAGAsphere to the above bolded line is “they crossed illegally, so it’s a crime…(and that justifies zip tying 12 year olds, or whatever the flavor of cruelty is at that moment)”

but how could it be! Trump hates drug traffickers

https://x.com/joaquincastrotx/status/1994531453749928155?s=46 is this fake news? Seems real. If so, let’s see the cult defend it

I can see that you didn’t read the article

Amen Give this fascist a Nobel peace prize!