Green King

Thanks you I too don't understand what u mean about notional. can you explain what u mean when u say notional and what u thinking when talking about it? Cuz i draw a blank when you use the word and talk about things. I've ur past post about it i can't seem to see it or understand it fully. Also why ? deep-in-the-money calls

+1 Sure, just give me the $1,000 fee for the Option Investing Congress where I'll reveal the secret to turn all of your losing options trades into winning ones! Money back guaranteed! Okay, here it is for free: 1) Whenever you go to buy a put or call, write one instead. 2) Whenever you go to write a put or a call, buy one instead. I guarantee your success will turn around 180 degrees. No, I don't have any books to recommend. Sorry i have a rule not to buy easy ideas or answers. But i can trade it with my ideas or life. (in form of time and labor) but how did you get your perspective and understanding for options? is it like when you looked at it it just worked?

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Eric Roshtein I was amazed that they give away the KEY to investing just like that.

Nice memo thanks

lolz... :D yes she is

lolz ;D umm there should a sub thread option to better organize the info and debates. Also this have gotten very random. I guess i am out too

wait minute correct me if i am wrong . Did Moore talk about GOD and religion as a way mentioned above ? Please show me as i don't have the ability to read that much. It always felt like to me those things about religion are just straw man created by the new belief in sciences http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Art-Motorcycle-Maintenance-Inquiry/dp/0553277472 to completely refute the product of the human consciousnesses from the past. That were created by scribes that wrote it through the interpretation of the world in their mind set (communcation with god) , laws and common belief it created. (a bit simplification) Should be impossible and productive. But there are great profits that came from that investment of human consciousnesses. Please do not refute it completely due some of it commercial or political changes due to its need for survival and corruption and control by other forces. (might also be simple deduction) There are also many problems with science today. Academic environment where people are forced to herding. Where new ideas are not accepted due the conflict it has with the ideas of the current living professors. Tenure system where people do what they are told or is very commonly accepted until they get it. Also of precised industrial manufacturing takes place. The force into measurements. (such as numbers data models analysis patents) were qualitative studies are hard to be funded since the variables involved so many that it is impossible to produce numbers. Making it hard for people to tackle hard questions. (some of these problems are also talked about in Poor Charlies Almanac.) also this video in the context of linguistics It dose not mean science its useless Nor should the arguments above make faith useless. After all we believe in the Margin of Safety and the Value investing fundamentals . there is no certainty in science so i don't think it can ever disproof anything 100% it needs to be continuously tested. I might be miss understanding what you are trying to say liberty. (please correct me i've been wrong and completely wrong many times before. The explanation is simpler without God and still works therefore there is no GOD. The explanation is simpler without God and still works therefore God's no existence is a possibility based on current information. Correct me if i am wrong berkshiremystery. Going to the moon Allocating resources of society that put people on a rock far away but multiple groups at the same time. While we could of allocated that resources in curing diseases, solving major societal problems or management our world better doesn't seem like a good investment. At least flying into buildings doesn't cost as much. Its a little late i am a little tired sorry for rambling again. Anyways in my world both can exist. The unknown and the uncertain is my GOD isee him ever day in the ever changing events of the markets and world. The uncertainty underlining everything every day. I guided through it with my faith in the margin of safety and the principle of value investing. Sorry about the bad writing

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This talk about stuff reminds me of this book http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Art-Motorcycle-Maintenance-Inquiry/dp/0553277472 Its not directly related but if you think about it is related on another level.

how did you guys get here from politics ? ??? I thought this was a investment forum doesn't look very productive or am i missing something. I know next we should have armed combat to the death.

I think around 100k

I don't he is saying its can't be done. It just brings another level of complexity and vulnerability. If you can manage with leverage more power to you. Which might not be worth it, Sometimes the best thing to do is to do nothing at all. There is also the temptation of the devil that tempt us to far from where it is safe. There is no absolute truth that apply to everything. Question: Like what is the meaning of everything ? Answer: seven :D Just mental frame works to apply to the context of the investment problem. direction for answer there is too. Avoid it or Learn what others have done. Apply it and use the rest of your life to refine it and search for the question with no answer. Sorry for rambling.

do you mean this ? http://www.amazon.ca/How-Make-Money-Junk-Bonds/dp/007179381X cuz i can't find the other one.

thanks :)

Is there a way to download the video onto my computer so i can save it for later. Do you know what theory he was talking about in the start. Just try some "YouTube Downloader" software or search for it: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=1&cp=9&gs_id=14&xhr=t&q=youtube+downloader&pf=p&sclient=tablet-gws&safe=off&tbo=d&biw=768&bih=900&oq=youtube+d&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=682ab996b03bf19a http://keepvid.com/ http://youtubedownloader.com/ I have flash video down loader for some reason it is not working. I've tried finding the url from the page source code but i was unable to find it. I would be helpful if i can the url you are linking it from PM.

Is there a way to download the video onto my computer so i can save it for later. Do you know what theory he was talking about in the start.

Thank You I can`t believe this it. We are going to support the banks that over 100 billion for the economy We are going to give them cash in exchange for preferred shares. If they lose their equity we are going to we are going to convert the preferreds to them. Therefore common has value and so dose the preferred shares since the government will backing them with this program. But how did he know that if they had more losses the government will not wipe them out ? or did i miss something ? Were they all priced for bankruptcy ? Or the government would not be simply manage them through the bureaucracy ? (see like its too easy an answer.)

I been watching his videos on CNBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0SwChTb0U8 Talking about the trade that made him billions. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pf_article_108451.html I been trying to find the FED white paper that he talks about coming out Feb 10 2009 which made him pull his trigger. however i was not able to find it. Can some help me please? TIA

Yup. We're about 140% long notionally (non recourse), but have a lot of what I think is a close to but better than cash equivalent: BRK because of the Buffett Put. Interestingly, Benjamin Graham was over 200% leveraged in 1929 when the market crashed, but lost only exactly 70% of his fund's value by the time the market hit bottom in 1932, thanks to all the ways he arbitraged and hedged, compared to the market's losing 87% of its value. He never went to cash. By 1935, he was back up to his high water mark. :) Where can one learn how to do that ? :) Graham was the first to develop pair trades, long/short strategy, convertible bond arbitrage and behind the scenes activism to release value for shareholders that had been hoarded by corporate managers for their own benefit. These strategies are still mainstays of hedge funds and the trading operations of banks, but the spreads are small, compared to what they were in Graham's day. :) I've been thinking about this for some times. With a long short strategy where you short one stock in the industry and buy another. I know the market i relative more efficient now a days but i always have the problem when thinking about this idea of long short since my bet depends on market inefficiency and this tools depends on eventual market inefficiency. what happens when the inefficiency continues or get worse ? for example What happens if the market become inefficient and the one you short increase in price materially ? (given your research is not wrong) Also are there case studies i can read ? How did you learn those tools by photosynthesis :D, from your apprenticeship with experienced investors or trial and error?

Yup. We're about 140% long notionally (non recourse), but have a lot of what I think is a close to but better than cash equivalent: BRK because of the Buffett Put. Interestingly, Benjamin Graham was over 200% leveraged in 1929 when the market crashed, but lost only exactly 70% of his fund's value by the time the market hit bottom in 1932, thanks to all the ways he arbitraged and hedged, compared to the market's losing 87% of its value. He never went to cash. By 1935, he was back up to his high water mark. :) Where can one learn how to do that ? :)

I don't understand can you explain ? no position

now we know its a fraud lets find out how to short this. :D

Lolz.. :D at least there is one looking for shell companies. http://instagram.com/p/NiXqSkL5Ba/

there should not be politics or sides. Lets just discusses facts or this can get messy man. Why should be Privatize ? Will it solve the current problem ? Would it make the economy more efficient ? Is that the goal ? What is the Goal ? Save money ? What about the poor that capitalism frequently miss because they are not yet profitable to service ?