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Yes Ralf that's Munger for sure. I simply found so much of his preaching fun to read.

Oh sweet my 2nd post included verbatim quotes. You are trying way too hard, the effort isn't productive.

Charlie Munger's "The Psychology of Human Misjudgment" talks/writings come to mind too. And Robert Cialdini's Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion!

LOL...I have - as termed by the university at the time of my graduation - a masters of management and a masters in counseling and psychology. The management one is still named that today but I'm not sure where the counseling/psychology one is presently as far as wording or curriculum. Sort of interesting that the counseling psychology program was headed by Dr. Mary Burke, a nun, who kicked anyone who even mentioned religion out of the program immediately. She was legendary in the Charlotte community, particularly the Charlotte business community that kept her in a new model Mercedes her entire reign!

I think many of you guys fail to see how perfectly obvious it is that certain type people thrive in finding a selling pitch and then working it for dollars. Kirk attained wealth from his manipulations and fantasy deliveries as does Trump, but success in this model it isn't a one sided thing at all --- the so called liberal themes are great models for persuaders as well. After I got old I went for a fourth college masters degree, one that greatly helped investing and clarifying people's endeavors through a more accurate perception of human behavior. I ended up having two young people spend their last ten tears of pre college life with me 100% because of a parent's endless obsessive chase of a one-stop shopping intolerant authority for religion and politics. A parent easily sold who often changed idols, but who went all in the to the water of whatever solve all presentation of the moment--- like our now absent but most dominant poster here --- with a 350 Chevy engine block chained to the ankles. A skilled manipulator is simple nadir reality for many. It is as simple as that. Anything can be successfully sold, and that is literally anything. People vastly over complicate a manipulators's use of power and persuasion, their success in making followers into puppets of rage and conflict.

Reds I think you've been overcome by the Trump narrative, the only possible factor that could cloud your view of the past. The sentence about Nixon is however accurate but only as it relates to our great flexibility for allowing Trump to have no accountability, others would not escape Nixon type actions.

Basically all the older guys in my family that I'm in business with, and their wives...this is the 71 and up bunch...we think Bill Clinton was by leaps and bounds the guy who could out-smart anyone, that he was the best thing all people could hope for in political terms. We could care less about a blue dress or anything of the sort, or even the right or left leanings. We just wanted brains and street smarts.

Sweet...Osama? Really?

I would counter by saying many people's deaths are celebrated in the US, that this man's is no different. How many times do I hear "culling the herd" or similar as to anyone who isn't of our liking? John Lennon was one of my favorite musicians and I was close enough to hear the gunshots when he was killed, walked immediately the the ribbons blocking the Dekota building area. But even then in 1080 I thought to myself, "so many people are murdered, this is stupid" rather that "isn't it just awful that THIS man was killed." I didn't think as a gun owner, "oh the 2nd amendment is worth it even with the deaths it brings." Kirk preached the standard same-ole-thing that sells and sells over thousands of years - intensity of division - and he did justify the 2nd as it related to deaths...of course death of others, not himself.

Yes we all go different paths. While I had not set goals in life I wanted to participate with those I admired and this need or desire was mostly financial based. It took me a long time to get here and many of those I wanted to participate with died before I arrived. Luckily for me some family discord via nieces of deceased cousins allowed me to finally buy into on going businesses. What a rewarding joy this life is for me now.

Of all people John -- I think you are well along on this line of thinking. You seem solid as a rock to me.

So true. Being online for now going on 30 years I am in every single year one of the lowest performers of any forum in which I participate. Yet I've done fine and financial worries are long gone. There's no need to shoot for the stars when a lesser but still adequate performance will often lead you to financial freedoms quite early in life.

Interestingly I come from a family where three have committed suicide, my mother's self-inflicted gun death is surely the most significant to me. Yet owning guns for me and using them in recreation and being in the service have never given me the rage or whatnot to think of using them towards others even when I'm angry. Guns in my family were simply a mandated part of life (as was serving the country) and maybe today's endless avenues for recreation make those of us from the past look pretty rough. But there wasn't as much fun stuff to do long ago, you basically did what others did to interact and socialize. Skeet shooting was my game, I competed for years. In high school I carried shotguns to school every day on my gun rack. We had a shooting club at all local high schools and I completed there a long with football, tennis and other stuff. My vehicle was never locked on campus. Today guns mean a completely different thing than when I was young. Often they are used to intimidate and threaten, the association with them is a link to power over those you oppose, hate, and fear. The preaching of intolerance for those who differ from you makes the previous sentence a link for what was, in my view, a part of Charlie Kirk's presentation. We get what we get, awfulizing it ain't gunna stop it. Maybe being more tolerant is the way, but all you need to do is read this thread and you'll quickly get jolted into the blisteringly clear realization that this ain't in the cards.

You fragile guys do make me laugh. I have a hand gun on my truck seat beside me at all times, my wife has a handgun. I have a precisely 16 inch (minimum legal length) barrel shotgun loaded under my bed. When sleepy it is hard to aim precisely. LOL, I didn't vote Trump...ain't it awful? And I have very open social views. I guess I'm one where the 2nd amendment is "worth" it. Years ago two houses over we had a friend abducted, raped, and murdered. (Murdered is incorrect as our neighbor actually crawled out of the woods alive with 82 stab wounds). The perpetrator was not caught for years until he continued his path- the second time his post rape murder attempt was successful. It has its affect. https://www.wral.com/story/123265/

So sorry Sweet. Meanwhile do your proper homework. "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

Charlie Kirk stated in public that protecting the second amendment justified gun violence. So given his death is that something you guys agree with?

As our Trump fixes all crowd continues to rant "problem solved" it seems, at least according the Wall St. Journal today, that the royal family notched another $5 bil with their latest crypto scheme. Cubs, while you're obviously feeling empowered...are you sure Trump's slaving away for your benefit as much as you think?

Yea I know you aren't in to crypto Cubs, just pointing out the pres bringing wonderful "productive" type businesses to the US.

Cubs get ya-self some of this stuff our financial genius pres is sellin' and prove your loyalty! https://www.reuters.com/business/trumps-world-liberty-financial-tokens-begin-trading-2025-09-01/?taid=68b5cd9a9bc307000130bdb4&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Uhh...what did I just write Reds? Your response is as is nowadays nearly always the case not related. Short what market where?

Won't it be interesting if we sit on our ass stock investors end up finding that our gains were actually in unison to our trade policies.

Are you sure Reds that we are or were on the losing side of trade? I'm sure as hell not.

My goodness Reds are you competing hard for the go-for-the-low-blow standard. This overly simplistic idea tariffs solve all sells well and gets instant high fives with our 'just call 'em all stupid' crowd but rarely does someone like you go the brain dead path. Is it really this easy? Which "Bring Him Home" Les Miserables type emotion are you dealing with? Open yourself a furniture factory here in my area where they thrived and see how long it takes you to fill positions with legal...oh you know ---red cappers types. Not in your lifetime. What is equal trade? Maybe a super selling Trump distraction while he enriches his family selling crypto?

Yes Cubs the big question for you as to you hyper-sensitivity is why do you give Trump a free pass? He's the most egregious to all the things you e-n-d-l-e-s-s-l-y rant about.

I regularly ride mountain bikes with a 48 year old guy who is a 100% Trumper as is his wife too. Both endlessly make fun of Trump, don't believe much if anything he says, and often think he does dumb shit endlessly. They absolutely do not think he is emotionally stable. At the same time they think anyone not "all in" with Trump should pack up and leave the country. So their "approval" rating of Trump is low - but it is also meaningless. You don't have to be in the "approval" camp nor the believing camp to vote and support Trump because the acceptable options to him do not exist. I despise Trump and think he's accomplishing about 1/2 of 1% of what he claims, yet my mountain biking friend and his wife - who have a lake home close to ours - are our (Angela and me) activity friends and we go about with ease and political discussion is both comfortable and fun for us. The one thing we all four agree on above all? Not directly related to Trump at all: the options to Trump are pathetic. Trump would win the presidential election with a zero approval rating today in my opinion.