John Hjorth

Thank you, @73 Reds, I don't blame you, or other Americans for not really getting intellectually engaged here. It's about releative proportions, US population size ~345 million, Southern Denmark [Jutland, Funen and Zealand, and adjacent islands plus Bornholm in the Baltic Sea] population is ~6 million, Greenland population ~56 thousand. Danish news media have lots of reporters working out of several places in USA, among them also Washington and i.e. New York City. Last there on TV2 a short session showing a Danish reporter from Danish TV channel TV2 asking New Yorkers on the Street about what their opinion about POTUS and his doing related to Greenland. In thaty clip, nobody asked for the mic and in front of the lens opted to reply and comment. I think I understand why, ref. above. It's considered a nothing burger. With regard to the Danish Realm on factual basis, it's actual quite complicated. I think it's quite well explained and elaborated on Wikipedia [It's such a weird construction, formal conduit, vehicle, entity - I don't think there exists a similar entity on the whole planet, however, I'm not totally sure abouit that. Wikipedia : The Danish Realm. Please note our Kings motto : 'United, committed, for the Kingdom of Denmark'. It tells you a lot, I think. So what do [Southern] Danes think and feel in general, and what do I personally think and feel? Some facts from the above mentioned Wikipedia article : 'Proposed Greenlandic independence Main article: Greenlandic independence The Greenlandic self rule act of 2009 gives Greenland a way to achieve independence. First, the Greenlandic people must make the decision, after which there should be negotiations between the Greenlandic government (Naalakkersuisut) and the Danish government about how to practically implement it. The agreement reached needs to be ratified by Inatsisartut, and approved in a referendum in Greenland. It also needs consent from the Folketing, in accordance with section 19 of the Danish constitution.[60] That section states that any changes to the Kingdom's territory needs to be approved by the Folketing.[25] Greenlandic independence does not require a constitutional change; instead, if Greenland were to become independent, the rules in the constitution regarding Greenland would become void.[61] With regard to international law, Denmark signed the Indigenous and Tribal Peoples Convention in 1996 and acknowledged the Greenlandic Inuit as an Indigenous people.[61][58] In the 2009 self rule act, Denmark recognised the Greenlandic people as a "people" within the context of international law, and their inherent right to self-determination.[54]' So, factual, for Greenlandic detachment, secession from the Kingdom of Denmark, the following is needed : 1. A Greenlandic referendum, with voting outcome for for secession, 2. Afterwards a decision by the Greenlandic cabinet [Naalakkersuisut] for secession, 3. Next, an approval [by a vote] by the Danish Parliament [Folketinget]. Here it's important to note, the 6 million citizens in Southern Denmark have say, nor vote on the matter. Here, please note here, that the Greenlandic population and the Faroe Island population each participate in separate elections of represantive members of the Danish Parliament with two members each, so two from Greenland, and two from Faroe Islands, so out the 179 member of Folketinget [all idiots ], two idiots are from Greenland, two are from Faroe Islands. - - - o 0 o - - - As a thought experiment by now, I'm quite comfident about the outcome of such a process, by now. It would simply stop at the outcome of step 1. Afterwards, if not at step 1, then at step 2. With regard to step 3, it all depends at the conditions, before any decision of approval by Folketinget. My personal thoughts and speculations are, that it would be political suicide for any of the [179 minus [ 2 + 2]] members of the Folketinget to vote for an approval, if not the 'block grant' from Southern Denmark to Greenland is also ceased at the same time, with no 'run off', 'transition' period, meaning zero further money, with immediate effect from all three conditions fulfilled. - - - o 0 o - - - More later about the Greenlandic public budget, for more facts , here.

It's also deeply embedded in auditing risk assessment and in audit policies for accept and service of clients in audit firms with just a wee bit self-respect, and in most law firms [, mind the 'most' here <- ] So, SWOT is actually good!

I've already reported it. Please continue the discussion in the Politics topic, so we avoid any access-related consequences for any of us. You could delete your individual posts here, and repost them in the Polititics topic, ex. @NnnnotSoSmarts post above, which is alredy there.

HaHa, @Charlie , Just to make the confusion total : Wikipedia : World Peace Counsel [, please study the article about how many 'Peace Counsel's there exist on the planet!] So, just one more! But this one is different, because it's 'Peace CounselTM' a.k.a. 'Pensylvania Avenue Country ClubTM' [<- Mind the golden letters!].

The last part is funny!, Greg [ @Gregmal ]. - - - o 0 o - - - Right now Danish PM Mette Frederiksen has been interviwied on Danish TV channel TV2, and what she was saying is comforting me much, really. Trump has got and has been promised nothing. Nobody in Davos, including NATO, has the compentence to give or promise POTUS anything, on behalf of Denmark and Greenland. Mark Rutte has discussed and suggested a framework for handling the situation around Greenland inside the NATO organizatiom, which really is both his job and his duty. All good. - - - o 0 o - - - Meanwhile POTUS is getting interviewed in Davos, saying 'It's a long term deal, that is good for everybody.', not to loose face. - - - o 0 o - - - It's totally surrealistic, hilarious! Mega-MAGA-Uber-**BS**! [<- I just invented it! - j/k]

Let's all step back for a moment, to get to a birds, satelite perspective on status quo in Europe, where there is a fire going on. That 'Greenland thingy' of POTUS' is what it is. A nothing-burger [however wild, surrealistic], where POTUS, by now is getting outmaneuvered, run over, by EU, NATO members. He is not getting what he want, any way. - - - o 0 o - - - Meanwhile, while all political democracy European based activities are occupied, allocated, seized for all the Greenland stuff, 60 percent of the Kyiv citizens do not any longer have functioning heating available in their homes! Greenlandic kiddoes don't slep in rooms without heating. Democracy, especially international, is just so time consuming, cumbersome, inefficient, long-winded, lengthy, prolix, prosy, tedious, circumstancial, detailed, elaborate, laborious, troublesome, complicated, intricated.

Jeff [ @DooDiligence ] Google AI : - - - o 0 o - - - You'd most likely do fine, very fine, with your English American [I've never had a oral talk with you, -you know] Like so many other places in Europe, English is the common denominator for business communication, in CH, especially international banking, global pharma, luxury and tourism.

Do never forget POTUS once was a media guy, selling tickets. Top notch actor, and not the first POTUS with such professional skills, qualiifications, I may add. Nobody mentioned, nobody forgotten.

It's killing me! - 'POTUS modus operandi Ukraine' all over again! - The only guy I feel sorry for is actually Mark Rutte, by POTUS getting dragged into this! - Yeah, when not successfull, just leave all the f**king mess & chaos for Vance and Rubio to clean up, not to loose face in public, so in silence, later, 'behind curtains' - for the whole thing to go away again! - It's actually brilliant, not just to say awesome!"

@73 Reds, Thank you for taking this discussion seriously, based on being open minded and curious. I've respectfully noticed it, with regard to your approach to this situation. Your seem to be the only American citizen I'm in contact with, that search to relate to 'the other side' here, and I really think it dresses you well, I respect you for it. It's to me personally a token of your personal format, intellectual bandwith. It's still really hard for me to dig down into it here on CofB&F, because I'm aware of that I'm severely - on a personal level - biased. Suggestion : Please start being nosy about my security clearances, and I'll likely react as a bottle of Heinz Ketchup, that woulden't give in!

Frontpage of Thursday digital edition of Børsen, distributed digitally at 21:00 Wednesday Danish local time to subscribers :[it's now 21:36] : 'Trump wants to negotiate about Greenland now, Løkke rejects' :

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115934734335579278 - - - o 0 o - - - There is just 'one 'minor' issue' with this : No politician in the Kingdom of Denmark knows anything about this, or have heard about this! [<- posted by John, the nitpicker, it's just a tiny frickle on the 'Donald solves everything' thingy!]

@NnnnotSoSmart, Who is 'she' in your post above?

Isen't that relative to who you are and how you're invested, @NnnnotSoSmart ?

Greg [ @Gregmal ], I suggest you to turn on the TV and listen and experience your POTUS at full throttle in Davos right now! [<- !] - - - o 0 o - - - By the way, I have on paper that I'm not crazy, because crazy people can't and don't get a security clearance at Danish PET - Politiets Efterretningstjeneste [in English : Danish Security and Intelligence Service] and at Danish FE - Forsvarets Efterretningstjeneste [in English : Danish Defence Intelligence Agency]. [I have both.] So, please, can I be free, you sparing me, from you namecalling me crazy?

Greg [ @Gregmal ], Why do you bring up the past in this discussion? The past is gone here. We need to look at all this forward looking.

That's not even close to an exageration, more an understatement, @Luke. The issue here is also, that some American citizens think it's for them to judge about that. I don't really know the name of this bias, but I soeculate it likely has a name.

Seen here this morning, according to Sky News, which I don't have access to, thus also nor the source for this :

HAC Bard - hac.bard.edu : "The Power of the Powerless" - Vaclav Havel

HaHa! - Count me in! It's now 2:35 AM here, and I'm out of bed again, can't let go, -all the real funny and interesting stuff on CofB&F always going on when I should be sleeping! Need to keep up speead here, mintly up to date, you know! I'm also thinking : 'Yay, he is at least not in my dreams! ... Well, yet ... that may perhaps change ...'.

Greg [ @Gregmal ], That's only and lonely because of the way you're invested [primary US stock portfolio levered in the US, and [as far as I've understood, so far, perhaps I'm wrong about that] US only real estate, also on that applying US leverage]. I.e. : I personally don't comment on ICE doings here in this topic, because I'm a Dane, or i.e. crypto currencies outside this topic, because I'm not invested in such stuff.

Greg [ @Gregmal ], What does that contribute to this discussion, repeated on and on by you here, if it is of no materiality, importance to you personally?

HaHa!

This row, string of exchanges is actually awesome discussion with focus on available facts! - - - o 0 o - - - There actually exist videos built by merging, combining satelite still pictures, photos over time that documents the evolution, demise [<-?], of the Artic, Northpole Icecap over time, available on the Web : YouTube :ARHCIVED - NASA Climate Change [July 11th 2022] : Annual Arctic Sea Ice Minimum 1979-2021 with Area Graph - - - o 0 o - - - So, gentlemen @73 Reds, @Sweet, @Pelagic & @Spekulatius, SD [ @SharperDingaan], and perhaps also other CofB&F members, What do you see - What are your detailed observations and conclusions of importance, based on your observations in this situation

It's still all POTUS *BS*, no matter many times he repeats his *BS*. - - - o 0 o - - - Pretty striking how formerly very vocal, almost yelling Vance and Rubio [especially Vance ], has gone silent since Saturday POTUS outburst, eruption. It's almost deafening, ear-shattering, resounding -Let's give them a similar standing applause : YouTube - Signs : Yay, Deaf applause