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lol We want to keep this thread politics-free looks like Trump made sure it wasn’t

Meanwhile in the Olympics for hockey there was pretty universal consensus among players that “it doesn’t mean as much winning when you don’t even allow the Russian players to compete”. Soccer? Pfffft…total joke

Need to go back in time decades for this

So that was a unilateral decision by the governing body. No idea if it was right or wrong but im guessing the Argentinean president didn't call FIFA. The point is not whether FIFA got it right or wrong its that the US looks like sore losers when they would have had most of the world agreeing with them.

I somehow just knew this was going to turn into a new Political Thread lol.

Did VAR Board unilaterally not give Messi a Red Card? Or do you think they thought..."Should we really ban Messi the best player in the world from the World Cup?" That's just AS corrupt and didn't even require a President to get it done!

Yeah I was compensated to play. Relatively speaking, I wasn't very good. You reach a level where your brain can't compensate for differences in raw physical ability, and sadly I needed a little more help on the genetics side of things. Fortunately I figured that out while I was young and decided to get a real job. if I had kept going, maybe I could have been a 2nd or 3rd choice goalkeeper on a Serie A side, or maybe a starting goalkeeper on a Serie B side. However, at this time, it wasn't just about pure talent and physical ability. The Bosman ruling also complicated things for me.

Only because its amazing how he manages to fuck up everything he gets involved with, usually making the US look foolish.

It’s amazing how anything tangentially related to Trump sends you mental.

Who knows? That doesn’t change the fact that any competitor whom doesn’t actually want to be the best by beating the best others have to offer is a lesser person/team.

Because the ruling only came after intervention by the US President (and FIFA Peace Prize recipient). If FIFA did it unilaterally, great. But does anyone still think it was unilateral? Hence the asterisk.

Why? VAR was used incorrectly, there was no Yellow issued in real time by the ref and Article 27 gives them provision to do so. You don't have to like it because it's the first case of the rule being applied...but the rules are being applied per how they are written. So far VAR is a complete joke and nobody is using it as it was intended. It's being used to subjectively and selectively apply or not apply penalties to key players. Technology is supposed to introduce more clarity and consistency. If it is not doing those things then what the Hell is the point of it?

"Unilaterally" is doing a lot of work in this case.

And so the discussion on a new pipe going east begins ...... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/bakx-northern-shield-ontario-alberta-oil-9.7259820 Kudos to Manitoba for rejecting it. in favour of more and upfront consultation. It's a lot shorter, and makes a lot more sense, for a new and direct pipe from Hardistry (Alberta), through Saskatchewan, to Churchill (Manitoba) on Hudsons Bay. Branch south to Ontario, east of Thompson (Manitoba); build alongside the existing rail right-of-way to Churchill. Ultimately 3 big pipes, replicating the TMP structure transporting oil from Alberta to BC. All good! SD

World Cup rules are there is no formal appeal process for standard Red Cards with one game suspensions. FIFA can unilaterally choose to review something (Article 27). Belgium attempted to appeal through their federation but the FIFA Appeal Committee ruled it inadmissible as of now.

Im far from a FIFA expert but was just going by the fact that they have an Appeals Committee and Belgiums response: "To date, the RBFA has still not received any grounds for this decision, nor has it received the information it has been requesting since the start of this procedure for a copy of the decision and the motivation declaring the player eligible as well as the referee’s report. Which is a breach of FIFA regulations"

True, a lot of States and banks printed their own money.... But, for a mature economy, you would think there should be the appearance of impartiality...the appearance at least... although, Goldman Sachs is generally embedded in the US government..LOL.

Id love to hear more about this, were you pro?

I can concede to this when I see it applied more frequently in the future, without political involvement. But I remain convinced if it was our player, there was no way we would be able to make FIFA make the same decision.

There is no appeal process in the World Cup. The US team did not and could not appeal.

The VAR is ready

Trump beat all of Congress by 3X. His folks must be so proud.

I agree it's a travesty the US President pushed on this. But you still ignore the rule that makes this a legitimate move by FIFA based on article 27. Now we can argue they might never have made the change without pressure from Trump (I would agree)...but the ability and latitude to do so still exists. So stop complaining about the "rules" not being followed and "fairness of application to all" and we can continue to bitch together about the intrusion of politics into the game. I hope FIFA reverses it and maintains the integrity of the game. But FIFAs integrity did not change with this call. It was already long gone....

I have yet to see anyone suggest that it was a good, fair call. And if it was overturned under the normal appeal process, everyone would probably have gone "good" and it wouldnt be an issue. Its the fact that FIFA bypassed the appeal process and didn't give Belgium a fair chance to respond that is the issue. Not to mention that all of that happened after the President (and FIFA Peace Prize winner) publicly announced that he called the FIFA head to overturn it. Ironically most people would have been on the US's side on this and now, as you point out, the US will have a big asterisk next to their name regardless of outcome.

For those guys it was a specific rule that suspensions do not carry from qualifiers to tournament.. this is why nobody gave a rats ass about it. Just as nobody cares if he plays or not, people care because this is a fkn US president enforcing rule-breaking favors during a world cup. That is the reality because if FIFA actually wanted to make this decision they would have done this way earlier. Also everyone agrees it wasn't red but this is always yellow. Claiming it wasnt even a foul makes you lose any credibility as far as the game is concerned mate.