SharperDingaan Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Retiring ½ the Debs now, & ½ later, is a desirable thing. It maintains the cash cushion, uses up the Q4 cash generated, & the remaining ½ will use up the Q1 cash generated. Some of the Deb holders would also like to keep them as long as possible; our cash yield is > 20% Everyone, including ABH, wants a higher price. It revalues their existing portion of St Feliceon upwards (more equity), & if they pay in stock - it increases their total o/s equity, & reduces the Debt/Equity ratio Snr Mgmt will be quite happy with a package. For regular Joe, there would essentially be no change - as only the ownership changes. You still need to run the plants. Clearly the AGM will be an important date, & we can expect a few more announcements. SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbitisrich Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Don't get people so hot SD. Management has let its shareholders down before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc75 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Weekly pulp update: Prices are down only 0.86... less than a 1% decline from beginning of year. www.foex.fi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwericb Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 'Jolting' drop in sales means paper industry 'must adapt' Says Andre Bernier, chairman of the Pulp and Paper Technical Association of Canada (Former CEO of SFK/FBK) now a productivity expert with Catalyst Paper Corp. in Vancouver. http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Jolting+drop+sales+means+paper+industry+must+adapt/4208545/story.html No doubt what he says is true regarding newsprint but it seems that in business and in home use computers have a tendency to produce prodigious quantities of paper. Also, does he factor in the increasing demand for paper in developing countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdWatchesBoxing Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 the thing with NBSK is that people will always need to wipe their ass. RBK is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFHWatcher Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 When is FBK supposed to report earnings? Can't find it. Feb 23? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alertmeipp Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 24th is the day according to a recent exchange with Patise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharperDingaan Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Domtar Q4/2010 Earnings: http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2011/04/c7329.html Somebody else in Montreal would appear to be shopping for pulp! "Commenting on the 2010 performance, Mr. Williams said, "We continued to aggressively execute on our "Perform, Grow, Break out" strategic journey, thanks to excellent cost management and decisive actions that realigned our asset portfolio and reduced our exposure to challenging businesses. We have also made strategic investments in growth markets that bode well for the future, notably in fluff pulp and nanocrystalline cellulose, and built a flexible balance sheet that provides us with the ability to seize opportunities. We are well positioned for the year to come." SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uccmal Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 A potential bidding war brewing, perhaps. Tembec, ABH, Domtar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharperDingaan Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 More like Status Quo is no longer an option, and one sale valuation supporting another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triedtestedand Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Not everyone thinks so ... there's currently the biggest stack of sell orders pending (between 1.35 and 1.38) that I've seen in awhile ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uccmal Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 tnt, Where do you get this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triedtestedand Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 UCCMAL: I get Level II quotes within BMO Investorline account environment ... late last week there was a glut around ~$1.41/$1.42, but ask has since appeared to been lowered (across a relatively few # of orders). Latest is below ... there's about 340K shares available in the range stated (about $450K worth). Level ll Quote for FIBREK INC. (FBK: Toronto) Bid Ask Price Total Size # of Orders Price Total Size # of Orders $1.34 4 2 $1.35 39 2 $1.33 117 4 $1.36 869 6 $1.32 131 5 $1.37 1030 3 $1.31 36 3 $1.38 1506 4 $1.30 312 2 $1.39 98 2 $1.29 90 1 $1.40 136 3 $1.28 85 2 $1.41 60 1 $1.25 48 1 $1.42 56 2 $1.23 60 1 $1.44 30 1 $1.22 25 1 $1.45 60 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lessthaniv Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 TNT, 290K of those shares appear to be staggered trades all originating from one dealer (TD Securities). 50,000 @ $1.36 100,000 @ $1.37 129,700 @ $1.38 The orders were all entered a few minutes apart. This looks and smells like one entity making the trades perhaps over multiple accounts. (RRSP,Cash, etc). I wouldn't read anything into this. Remove those asks from the que and its status quo. We are talking about a very small piece of the pie here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uccmal Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks TNT, cfx - up 2.5% today ufs - domtar - up 2.65 - 3% cfx reports this week. Sooner or later the poor cousin - fbk - is going to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFHWatcher Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks TNT, cfx - up 2.5% today ufs - domtar - up 2.65 - 3% cfx reports this week. Sooner or later the poor cousin - fbk - is going to catch up. What about merc on NYSE? Up about 16% today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alertmeipp Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 FBK - worst pulp producer you can own so far. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyska Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 UCCMAL: I get Level II quotes within BMO Investorline account environment ... late last week there was a glut around ~$1.41/$1.42, but ask has since appeared to been lowered (across a relatively few # of orders). Latest is below ... there's about 340K shares available in the range stated (about $450K worth). Level ll Quote for FIBREK INC. (FBK: Toronto) Bid Ask Price Total Size # of Orders Price Total Size # of Orders $1.34 4 2 $1.35 39 2 $1.33 117 4 $1.36 869 6 $1.32 131 5 $1.37 1030 3 $1.31 36 3 $1.38 1506 4 $1.30 312 2 $1.39 98 2 $1.29 90 1 $1.40 136 3 $1.28 85 2 $1.41 60 1 $1.25 48 1 $1.42 56 2 $1.23 60 1 $1.44 30 1 $1.22 25 1 $1.45 60 1 Off topic here, but does this information being available to traders just not seem a little wrong. It may be just me but it feels like going to an auction with everyone around you knowing what is the most you can bid. Not a direct comparison but still feels that way. On topic. Is it the big stake that FFH has in this company holding it back. I can't see how all its peers can move so much and FBK just sits there. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alertmeipp Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 OT (off topic): not sure what u mean, but those data are available if you are willing to pay or your brokerage willing to give out for free. Random thoughts: - I can't remember the details but I think their term loan actually carries higher than 7% rate. - Retiring 50% saves 1.5m, the whole pack will be 3m or about 3 cents per shares - should translate to 20 cents if u use 7x. But the market doesn't care much. - Their loan is now in Canadian - so lowering USD no longer means less debt in absolute term. - one more year (end of 2012)- they can be (almost) debt free and generate 20 cash flow per quarter = 20 cents - a 6 dollar stock if u ask me. - then the power revenue will come online plus the economy will be so good that RBK will be selling like gold. - $$10. Enjoy! (I struggle a bit on whether I should post this - since I plan to add to my position in next couple weeks but can't be selfish!). ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uccmal Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 On topic. Is it the big stake that FFH has in this company holding it back. I can't see how all its peers can move so much and FBK just sits there. I think part of the problem is that nearly all the shareholders are probably value types, and at this point that is holding the stock down. A catalyst is really needed to get it moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyska Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 OT (off topic): not sure what u mean, but those data are available if you are willing to pay or your brokerage willing to give out for free. Not sure that I can fully explain, it's more of a gut feeling. It feels like an auction house that has people in the crowd bidding things up. I realize it's not quite the same, but can't shake the feeling. Maybe it's because the brokers are buying and selling for themselves also on the information. I will say that a lot of things are allowed and available in the market, but that fact doesn't always make them right. ;) Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwericb Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 RBC used to provide Level 2 live quotes but now you have to be a frequent trader to access them. It is certainly a disadvantage not to have the Level 2 info. Pulp price did not move today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I get free level II quotes using Fidelity's "Active Trader Pro" software. I don't think they require you to be an "active trader" to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwericb Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 annual results.... LONGUEUIL, QC, Feb. 8 /CNW Telbec/ - Fibrek (Toronto:FBK.TO) will release its 2010 fourth quarter and annual results after market hours on Wednesday, February 23, 2011. President and Chief Executive Officer, Pierre Gabriel Côté, and Patsie Ducharme, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, will host a conference call on Thursday, February 24, 2011 at 10:00 a.m. (Eastern Time) to discuss financial results. Members of the financial community will be able to access the conference call and ask questions. Media representatives may attend as listeners only. OPEN TO: Analysts, investors and all interested parties DATE: Thursday, February 24, 2011 TIME: 10:00 a.m. (Eastern Time) CALL: 416-644-3425 (FOR ALL TORONTO AND OVERSEAS PARTICIPANTS) 1-877-974-0445, access code 4404338# (FOR ALL OTHER NORTH AMERICAN CALLS) Please dial-in 15 minutes before the conference call begins. Participants not able to listen to the live call can access a replay of the archived call by calling 1-877-289-8525, access code 4404338#. The replay will be available from Thursday, February 24, 2011, 1 p.m. until Thursday, March 3rd, 2011, 11:59 p.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Not sure that I can fully explain, it's more of a gut feeling. It feels like an auction house that has people in the crowd bidding things up. Dan, the market is an auction with crowds of buyers bidding things up and sellers driving things down. That is how it is supposed to work. The point at which a bid meets an asking price is when a sale happens. An auction is an excellent way to describe it. There isn't anything wrong with that at all. More information is always a good thing not a bad thing, (for the people that have the information anyway). --Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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