Ross812 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 47 minutes ago, flesh said: An idea for the weight lifters here. Rock climbing gyms have become mainstream. I've been doing it since 97'. Increasingly I see weight lifters in the gym, some meat head types too. They tell me they use it for one of their upper body days at least once a week/finger strengthening. It works everything well from the knee up but mostly upper body. Give it a try, it has the added bonus of being a lot of fun vs boring rep counting. Go have fun, get a great upper body workout, climbing gyms are very safe and offer all kinds of instruction if you want it. One of my current partners was a full on meat heat 6 foot 230 5% body fat. He's quit lifting and focuses on climbing, he's working hard to lose all his muscle, he's down to 195. However, all you really need is a chalk bag, chalk and shoes. Then go bouldering. You'll thank me later. You'll find your fingers are super weak, the weak link, stick with it and you'll make huge progress your first few years, once a week is enough, twice a week is even optimal if you're older. I rarely lift but can do a one arm pull up just from climbing. Also can hold a front lever and do a flag pole. This will give you an idea what bouldering is like. However, this guys an ex pro. What you start out on will appear like a ladder. I love that you bring this up! I was a 4x a week climber for 18 years (hard 12 sport climber outdoors) until I started lifting instead a couple years ago. I don't have time to do both unfortunately, but I have been to the bouldering gym a couple times in the past two years and v5 is still a comfortable onsite for me. Climbing as my sole activity lead to some muscle imbalances (pulling was great, pushing not so much) and my knees were horrible. If and when I get back into climbing I'll keep doing heavy squats a couple times a week for my knees. Climbing is a great workout that never feels like a workout!
flesh Posted January 30 Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, Ross812 said: I love that you bring this up! I was a 4x a week climber for 18 years (hard 12 sport climber outdoors) until I started lifting instead a couple years ago. I don't have time to do both unfortunately, but I have been to the bouldering gym a couple times in the past two years and v5 is still a comfortable onsite for me. Climbing as my sole activity lead to some muscle imbalances (pulling was great, pushing not so much) and my knees were horrible. If and when I get back into climbing I'll keep doing heavy squats a couple times a week for my knees. Climbing is a great workout that never feels like a workout! Cool, that's a very good level, especially if you started as an adult and are larger than the typical climber. Funny you mention pushing, the only non climbing workout I do is one set of 20 push ups after climbing, 1 set 10 squats with just 100 lbs, and sometimes some core max strength stuff. I do dirt bike 10x a year, which torches my whole body when I do it. Just won the local utah bouldering competition in the masters category (45+) last october. 2nd place had just redpointed a 14c.
Ross812 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 17 minutes ago, cubsfan said: 2X your body weight on the deadlift - very impressive. When those ab injuries heal fully you'll pull more. Keep adding 2.5 pounds per week and slowly move up - small increase will do it. The little country gym by my lake house has a national champ powerlifting team. There are a couple of 250ish lb. dudes that are over 1700# on their big three lifts. I watched one of the guy do a 5x5 with 595 DL like it was nothing. It pretty incredible what consistency (and maybe some special sport supplements) will do long term!
Ross812 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 1 minute ago, flesh said: Cool, that's a very good level, especially if you started as an adult and are larger than the typical climber. Funny you mention pushing, the only non climbing workout I do is one set of 20 push ups after climbing, 1 set 10 squats with just 100 lbs, and sometimes some core max strength stuff. I do dirt bike 10x a year, which torches my whole body when I do it. Just won the local utah bouldering competition in the masters category (45+) last october. 2nd place had just redpointed a 14c. The younger you start climbing the better for sure; the innate strength the guys who started in their early teens have is incredible. I started at 20 and have always been heavy for a climber - 5-9 and never lighter than 175. Congrats on the bouldering competition! The real reason I got out of climbing was getting addicted to water skiing - my hands couldn't take the abuse of building calluses climbing and ripping them off skiing.
flesh Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) On 1/30/2026 at 11:08 AM, Ross812 said: The younger you start climbing the better for sure; the innate strength the guys who started in their early teens have is incredible. I started at 20 and have always been heavy for a climber - 5-9 and never lighter than 175. Congrats on the bouldering competition! The real reason I got out of climbing was getting addicted to water skiing - my hands couldn't take the abuse of building calluses climbing and ripping them off skiing. My son started at 3, he's 5, if he sticks with it I'll finally get to see what my genes can do! He's done 10b on TR with some cheating, like using bolt holes, done 5.9 clean. Its fun to watch because he locks off half the moves at his waist, sometimes has to smear the wall with both feet to reach the next hold. I have him hang boarding a couple times a week, I give him one dollar for 4x 10 second max hangs, he's saving for the switch2. He did his first real pull up a few months ago, which earned him 5 dollars, lol. I got into dirt biking starting 2016, another super fun option. Was doing it 20-30 times a year for awhile, totally wrecks you if you're pushing it. I wore a heart rate monitor once and averaged 155 bpm over 3 hours non stop on one of my regular trails. My climbing didn't go down at all though. I'd do a quick hang board workout beforehand usually, then take 2 days off after. Don't sleep on dirt biking if you have trails in the area, great old guy sport with some actual thrills, plus it's fun and you get a great workout. Two of the guys I ride with are 65 and 72, they're a bit slower but still rip! Edited February 1 by flesh
cubsfan Posted January 30 Posted January 30 26 minutes ago, Ross812 said: The little country gym by my lake house has a national champ powerlifting team. There are a couple of 250ish lb. dudes that are over 1700# on their big three lifts. I watched one of the guy do a 5x5 with 595 DL like it was nothing. It pretty incredible what consistency (and maybe some special sport supplements) will do long term! That is very cool. There is a Mexican guy at my gym who taught me the rack pull to increase my DL. He weighs 250 at 25 years old - I watch him pull a 725 DL a couple times - very inspiring. There is always someone stronger!
DooDiligence Posted January 30 Posted January 30 KeyJ hobbyist using a pair of Elektron boxes (Digitakt sampling synth + Digitone FM synth) and a Yamaha MOXF6 ROMPLER with just about every voice you could possibly need. Visuals come from a pair of Raspberry Pi powered video synthesizers shown below. The orange box is a Critter & Guitari Eyesy that generates graphics using Pygame Python modules. The white box to the right is a Sleepy Circuits Hypno which supports .MP4, JPG, PNG (including transparency), and .frag shader files from a usb stick. It also takes input from a standard webcam. The box on top is a FeelWorld L2 Plus video switcher / mixer which I use to blend the two signals from the Eyesy and Hypno. Both video synths can be controlled by midi for preset selections and glitching along with the music. I use the Digitone midi tracks to synch Hypno visuals to the beats and I audio synch the Eyesy visuals to the piano. The box on the bottom is a Zoom LiveTrak audio mixer. I'm a hobbyist and spend a lot of time rocking the living room through a set of Yamaha DBR10's and a DXS12 subwoofer, plus a pair of DMX lighting trees for ambiance. I cannot lift it all this stuff at the same time, but I can it all work together.
gfp Posted January 30 Posted January 30 @DooDiligence when I was in High school and college I had a rare vintage ARP 2600 "grey face" that was crazy to play around with. I ended up giving it to my friend Elliot who is a professional musician / producer / recording studio person. It requires a decent amount of upkeep (photo is not mine, mine wasn't all beat up like this case)
gfp Posted January 30 Posted January 30 1 minute ago, cubsfan said: Damn, that looks like an antique! That's what "vintage" means Mike! Early 1970's - before I was alive
DooDiligence Posted January 30 Posted January 30 20 minutes ago, gfp said: @DooDiligence when I was in High school and college I had a rare vintage ARP 2600 "grey face" that was crazy to play around with. I ended up giving it to my friend Elliot who is a professional musician / producer / recording studio person. It requires a decent amount of upkeep (photo is not mine, mine wasn't all beat up like this case) Nice! Lot's of CV inputs and outputs and old school analog goodness. This one sold on eBay last December for $14,000.
gfp Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: Nice! Lot's of CV inputs and outputs and old school analog goodness. This one sold on eBay last December for $14,000. haha - oops! maybe I shouldn't have donated it to a friend who was already rich Luckily still have my flat-top fender rhodes with the stereo vibrato speaker underneath.. like this one -> weighs a ton Edited January 30 by gfp
DooDiligence Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) 6 hours ago, gfp said: haha - oops! maybe I shouldn't have donated it to a friend who was already rich Luckily still have my flat-top fender rhodes with the stereo vibrato speaker underneath.. like this one -> weighs a ton GTFO!!! That's fabulous!!!!! I make do with the Chick Corea Rhodes pack loaded onto my MOXF. I've been eyeing an Ashtun Sound Machines Hydrasynth which uses digital oscillators and filters with a ton of different algorithms for each. Patching modulation sources to destinations is a breeze, unlike the old wired CV patching days. The Hydrasynth also has CV outs and my Hypno video synth can take CV input for glitching video. I've tried a few different synths over the past years, including a Moog Mavis (analog) for a short period that I got primarily to learn analog sound design. Wound up recycling them all on Reverb or FeeBay. The Electron boxes are hard to beat for my purposes. Great sounds and the workflow is unparalleled. We don't need no stinking drummer. Edited January 31 by DooDiligence
gfp Posted January 30 Posted January 30 1 minute ago, DooDiligence said: unlike the old wired CV patching days haha - reminds me, we had a workbook of xerox print outs of the face of the synth and you would take colored markers to draw in the patch cords and knob positions to save a "recipe" for lack of a better word. mono-phonic. and it would go out of tune! New is better
DooDiligence Posted January 30 Posted January 30 1 minute ago, gfp said: haha - reminds me, we had a workbook of xerox print outs of the face of the synth and you would take colored markers to draw in the patch cords and knob positions to save a "recipe" for lack of a better word. mono-phonic. and it would go out of tune! New is better Tuning is for sure an analog problem, but it can also be exploited by detuning a pair of oscillators against each other to get interesting sounds. Another advantage of digital is that you can patch complex modulations and store them as presets. A good analog filter is hard to beat. There are a few boards out there that combine digital with one or more analog filters. The Arturia Minifreak is one that I tried. It lasted about a year before I got tired of having to look at post-it notes for all the menu diving. The analog filter wasn't particularly wide or smooth either. It's a fun hobby and keeps the mind active with lots of abstract concepts to grok.
cubsfan Posted January 30 Posted January 30 3 hours ago, gfp said: That's what "vintage" means Mike! Early 1970's - before I was alive I love it Chris - some guys collect Ty Cobb baseball cards - so collect "ancient" music stuff.... I learned from @Gregmal --- Collectibles are a great source of wealth --- if you know what you are doing! I haven't a clue!
DooDiligence Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) These are the monsters of modern analog synthesizers. I can't justify buying one but for those with money to burn. Resale on these is strong and probably will be for decades to come. https://sequential.com/modern-analog/prophet-6/ https://sequential.com/product/prophet-5/ Edited January 31 by DooDiligence
Ulti Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/29/2026 at 11:05 AM, Gregmal said: Humbly, I’m pretty good at curling 12 oz Bud Lights Add some running and you can compete. https://thebeermile.org/pages/records Go Canada
DooDiligence Posted February 6 Posted February 6 This is for any other musicians (hobbyists and pro's alike). Pilz has produced Bad Gear reviews on damn near every modern and vintage piece of pro audio gear that exists. His videos are comprehensive and hilarious. Be prepared for a lot of pause / play if you want to catch the frequent meme clips (I pause for every damn one and occasionally steal screenshots). I posted a handful of the best screen grabs below (from this video) so you can soak up the brilliance of Pilz without ever having to hit the spacebar. This is his latest drop. There are definitely other more appropriate forums for this type of material and I won't spam up CoBF with too much. I just thought that there may be a few other living room legends here who aggravate the shit out of their SO's by cluttering up the living room and being noisy at home. Useful forums: https://www.elektronauts.com https://www.modwiggler.com/forum/ https://gearspace.com/board/ https://forums.irealpro.com and of course reddit has a bunch of different subs. Don't let the embarrassment of GAS stop you from buying a fun new pedal, box or board. Recycle often on FeeBay and/or Reverb. FINI?
DooDiligence Posted February 6 Posted February 6 20 minutes ago, Rainier said: This is all pretty funny and I feel like you can substitute into these memes pretty much any type of hobby that involves gear and a person who is very technically oriented or likes to go down rabbit holes. I know I am susceptible to it. You should buy a synthesizer, but for the love of whatever god(s) you pray to, do NOT get into modular. I recommend a used Digitakt groove box and a set of speakers / PA's with good bass response. If that gets you revved up, you are doomed to a lifetime of GAS (gear acquisition syndrome).
Saluki Posted February 6 Posted February 6 I enjoy Jiu Jitsu, but it's hard on the body and harder when you get older. As a fun hobby, if you like woodworking, learn welding. There are different types, but I took a week long "MIG welding for dummies class" at an art school and learned the basics. I bought a Flux Core Welder (like a hot glue gun for metal) for less than $200 at Harbor Freight and another $200 or so of PPE and tools and I was in business. I don't do it often, but during the pandemic it was great because you can do it alone and being under the welding hood blocks out the world. I made a few fire pits that I gave away. Fixed my front porch. Recently fixed my back gate etc.
DooDiligence Posted February 6 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Saluki said: I enjoy Jiu Jitsu, but it's hard on the body and harder when you get older. As a fun hobby, if you like woodworking, learn welding. There are different types, but I took a week long "MIG welding for dummies class" at an art school and learned the basics. I bought a Flux Core Welder (like a hot glue gun for metal) for less than $200 at Harbor Freight and another $200 or so of PPE and tools and I was in business. I don't do it often, but during the pandemic it was great because you can do it alone and being under the welding hood blocks out the world. I made a few fire pits that I gave away. Fixed my front porch. Recently fixed my back gate etc. One of my neighbors has a welding and metal fabrication shop attached to his house. Dude's been retired for decades and still pumps out projects with this side hustle. Boat trailers and all kinds of custom marine accessories.
Ver Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I've found surfing and skiing to be most conducive to thinking clarity and energy management while being insanely fun. Hawaii for surfing, Hokkaido for skiing. Both scale reasonably well with age so there's a long runway.
brobro777 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Watching this kind of stuff is pretty fun: I gotta say though, this video would have been more entertaining if there were trading halts for stocks or limit up/down moves for futures. I mean imagine you're long some crazy momo stock on margin and they halt trading, just for the stock to gap down 80% when they lift the halt a week later? Now THAT would be entertaining!
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