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[LC]

  

2 hours ago, cubsfan said:

for example, in my neighboring state of Wisconsin, there are 7.1M registered voters, while actually only 4M possible voters.  The 3M "excess" are dead, moved, etc, etc - that need to be purged off the voter roll - but Wisconsin refuses to do that.  This leaves it very easy for voter fraud to occur in a close race  by "finding" new votes. Biden won Wisconsin by 21,000 votes.  

 

 

This is what I love about you cubs, you never allow facts to get in the way of your opinion:

 

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https://wisconsinwatch.org/2026/02/wisconsin-more-registered-voters-than-adults-trump-election/

Wisconsin’s adult population is around 4.8 million, according to Jan. 1 estimates from the state Demographic Services Center.

On Feb. 1, Wisconsin had around 3.6 million active, registered voters, according to the Wisconsin Elections Commission. 

The state has 4.6 million inactive voters on a separate list. Voters move to the inactive list if they die, move to a new state or are convicted of a felony, for example.

Adding those two numbers produces a total of 8.2 million, more than the state’s total population.

State law requires an inactive list for record-keeping purposes. Plus, it helps clerks prevent fraud by catching someone registering under a dead person’s name, for example.

 

 

[SharperDingaan]

3 hours ago, 73 Reds said:

Lame duck minus the crepes and Hoison sauce has never been particularly appetizing.  The difference today is the opposing party is completely out of whack and stands for little or nothing.

 

Great reference  

 

Very telling that 2 of the main networks refused to carry Trumps live time speech last night ... and today he's calling for both of them to have their licences pulled. Even with today's rants .... vs the world cup finals coming up; a lot of people are simply turning the dial.

 

Yesterdays, 'old man', fish and chip wrapper 

 

SD 

Edited 2 hours ago by SharperDingaan

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, LC said:

This is what I love about you cubs, you never allow facts to get in the way of your opinion:

 

VERY well done @LC . The reason I admire you besides your wicked sense of humor is you won't let me slide on the facts.  I am often wrong, however embarrassing it may be.  It's more complicated than this. 

 

The CoBF board deserves and will benefit from the TRUTH - instead of slams like "Trump is a dictator", "Trump is shredding the US Constitution", etc.

 

Perhaps if we focus on facts, we get to the TRUTH - and then each members can form an opinion.

 

Yes, that is the response of the Wisconsin Election Watch - meanwhile, the DOJ lawsuit regarding the actual integrity of the Wisconsin voter rolls continue.

 

Attached is the lawsuit making its way through the US Federal Courts: "USA vs Wisconsin Election Commission" July 7, 2026 filing.

 

https://www.wpr.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/USA-v-WEC-Emergency-Motion.pdf

The net is this: DOJ believes there is significant fraud in Wisconsin voting - signing up illegals, mail in ballot abuse, etc, etc.   The DOJ is demanding unfettered access to State Drivers license records, SS#'s, that are associated with the Voter databases - so they can cross-check against fraud.  The State possesses this information on the voter rolls, but refuses to provide them to the Feds.

Excerpt from lawsuit doc:

 

Wisconsin's next federal election is rapidly approaching, the primaries set for August 11, 2026, and the general election to take place on November 3, 2026. Weeks before November 3, election officials will be mailing absentee ballots to hundreds of thousands of Wisconsin voters,

with many of those ballots potentially going to ineligible voters, fraudulent registrants, or other individuals who should not have been registered. Wisconsin voters need to know that their election is secure and that non-citizens, deceased

individuals, former residents, non-residents, and voters with multiple records are not registered to vote in that election.

 

You have my respect. Thanks.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by cubsfan

[whiskybravo]

As someone who values institutional stability to hear a president on national television challenging the legitimacy of a past election is sickening.  What is it about our system that only gives us a dangerous clown on the right or a party that doesn’t understand how the world works on the left?

[cubsfan]

5 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

As someone who values institutional stability to hear a president on national television challenging the legitimacy of a past election is sickening.  What is it about our system that only gives us a dangerous clown on the right or a party that doesn’t understand how the world works on the left?

 

A serious question. If you believed there was fraud, would you still find it sickening?

[whiskybravo]

28 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

A serious question. If you believed there was fraud, would you still find it sickening?

I’d want it proven in a verifiable way first. If there's real evidence, let's see it in court. But making those claims on national TV without proof just hurts public trust, which is what worries me.

[LC]

47 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

VERY well done @LC . The reason I admire you besides your wicked sense of humor is you won't let me slide on the facts.  I am often wrong, however embarrassing it may be.  It's more complicated than this. 

 

The CoBF board deserves and will benefit from the TRUTH - instead of slams like "Trump is a dictator", "Trump is shredding the US Constitution", etc.

 

Perhaps if we focus on facts, we get to the TRUTH - and then each members can form an opinion.

 

Yes, that is the response of the Wisconsin Election Watch - meanwhile, the DOJ lawsuit regarding the actual integrity of the Wisconsin voter rolls continue.

 

Attached is the lawsuit making its way through the US Federal Courts: "USA vs Wisconsin Election Commission" July 7, 2026 filing.

 

https://www.wpr.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/USA-v-WEC-Emergency-Motion.pdf

The net is this: DOJ believes there is significant fraud in Wisconsin voting - signing up illegals, mail in ballot abuse, etc, etc.   The DOJ is demanding unfettered access to State Drivers license records, SS#'s, that are associated with the Voter databases - so they can cross-check against fraud.  The State possesses this information on the voter rolls, but refuses to provide them to the Feds.

Excerpt from lawsuit doc:

 

Wisconsin's next federal election is rapidly approaching, the primaries set for August 11, 2026, and the general election to take place on November 3, 2026. Weeks before November 3, election officials will be mailing absentee ballots to hundreds of thousands of Wisconsin voters,

with many of those ballots potentially going to ineligible voters, fraudulent registrants, or other individuals who should not have been registered. Wisconsin voters need to know that their election is secure and that non-citizens, deceased

individuals, former residents, non-residents, and voters with multiple records are not registered to vote in that election.

 

You have my respect. Thanks.

 

 

 

Ah yes, the dept of justice BELIEVES...and therefore needs access to data they would otherwise not be entitled to.

 

Wasn't MAGA totally against this weaponizing the DOJ when it was the Steele dossier and all that crap? Why didn't DOGE put a stop to these wasteful, frivolous lawsuits? 

 

Otherwise, hey, I believe Trump is a rapist, therefore I need access to his blood samples, saliva samples, financial records, travel records, communication records...blahblahblah. 

 

It's all bullshit politics, let's not pretend it's anything otherwise. 

[cubsfan]

11 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

I’d want it proven in a verifiable way first. If there's real evidence, let's see it in court. But making those claims on national TV without proof just hurts public trust, which is what worries me.

 

He talked about the proof.  

 

4 states have confirmed in conjunction with the DOJ that 278,000 illegal aliens are on the voter rolls.   Extrapolate the number to another 46 states.  The majority of blue states are refusing to cooperate with the DOJ on how many illegals are on their own voter rolls - as I have posted with the Wisconsin lawsuit.

 

Trump summarized the massive fraud operation uncovered in Michigan. Democrats paying volunteers to bring in fraudulent NEW voter registrations. Will spare you the details.

 

I've have also posted about the Georgia FBI investigation and the admission of Georgia Election officials that were silenced about multiple vote counting violations.

 

In addition, DHS found 400,000 active voter registrations on 23 state voter rolls for dead people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sweet]

8 hours ago, dwy000 said:

The US voting system actually isnt a mess.  It works remarkably well with virtually no fraud. And it has been this way for a long, long time.  The only reason its even being discussed is because Trump is still focused on the delusion that he won in 2020 and therefore it must be fraud.  And like everything Trump he just spews lie after lie about it until it becomes a discussion topic despite zero evidence or proof of anything.  In fact the biggest evidence so far is Trumps own phone call asking to find votes and Musk claiming that Trump only won because of him. 

Trump absolutely is a liar, but looking from outside, the election system seems like a mess to me.  And the idea that you just shrug, when a large percentage of the electorate believe elections cannot be trusted, I think that’s a bad attitude.  Best way to own Trump on this is to tighten up voting laws and when he still loses he won’t have a leg to stand on.  But it’s not just a Trump thing, we had years of claims that the 2016 election was rigged from the Dems when Trump first won.  
 

Edited 36 minutes ago by Sweet

[cubsfan]

12 minutes ago, LC said:

 

Ah yes, the dept of justice BELIEVES...and therefore needs access to data they would otherwise not be entitled to.

 

Wasn't MAGA totally against this weaponizing the DOJ when it was the Steele dossier and all that crap? Why didn't DOGE put a stop to these wasteful, frivolous lawsuits? 

 

Otherwise, hey, I believe Trump is a rapist, therefore I need access to his blood samples, saliva samples, financial records, travel records, communication records...blahblahblah. 

 

It's all bullshit politics, let's not pretend it's anything otherwise. 

 

Therefore, you believe that non-citizens, dead people, those that move out of state - can vote in Federal Elections if it is ok with the State.

 

Got it @LC!

 

The courts will determine whether States have a right to conduct fraudulent Presidential elections.

[cubsfan]

1 minute ago, Sweet said:

Trump absolutely is a liar, but looking from outside, the election system looks like a mess to me.  And the idea that you just shrug, when a large percentage of the electorate believe elections cannot be trusted, I think that’s a bad attitude.  Best way to own Trump on this is tighten up voting laws and when he still loses he won’t have a leg to stand on.  But it’s not just a Trump thing, we had years of experience election was rigged from the Dems when Trump first won.  

 

100%!!  

 

May the best man win - Republican, Democratic or Independent.

 

Americans WANT a level playing field.

[aws]

Trump is selling early access to his market moving posts that he does exclusively on the platform he owns. Would love to hear anyone explain how that's not corrupt.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/e466df85-fa3b-4a7f-a4a1-ae04d66db99f?shareType=nongift

 

 

[whiskybravo]

21 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

He talked about the proof.  

 

4 states have confirmed in conjunction with the DOJ that 278,000 illegal aliens are on the voter rolls.   Extrapolate the number to another 46 states.  The majority of blue states are refusing to cooperate with the DOJ on how many illegals are on their own voter rolls - as I have posted with the Wisconsin lawsuit.

 

Trump summarized the massive fraud operation uncovered in Michigan. Democrats paying volunteers to bring in fraudulent NEW voter registrations. Will spare you the details.

 

I've have also posted about the Georgia FBI investigation and the admission of Georgia Election officials that were silenced about multiple vote counting violations.

 

In addition, DHS found 400,000 active voter registrations on 23 state voter rolls for dead people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing that context. For me, it really comes down to trust. Trump makes a lot of claims that don't seem to hold up under independent scrutiny, so I just don't take his word for it. 
 

I prefer to wait for the legal process, and what convinces me is that even Trump-appointed judges and conservative Republican election officials looked at these exact claims and said there wasn't evidence to change the results. 
 

If this is really all hocus pocus, then going on national television with it is using the power of the presidency to undermine faith in the system.