cubsfan Posted May 1 Posted May 1 20 minutes ago, Parsad said: No, I 100% agree with you on this! Limbaugh was old, hardcore GOP...not this MAGA nutjob stuff...although it achieved what he wanted in many ways, so he was extremely supportive. That's why many GOP joined the MAGA fight...like-minded goals in many ways, but one group was clearly more deranged! But guess who took MAGA into this crazy ass journey, including where half of MAGA has turned on Trump...Trump himself! Obama might have made things worse with his overtly push on the black/minority agenda, but by far, Trump took the Presidency in unprecedented areas of action, decorum and just plain disgrace in terms of respect for the office and the Constitution. But hey, as long as he hits his goals and achieves what half the country wants...no one gives two shits! It not only doesn't work anymore...it's been blown to fucking high hell and will take a decade to get back to any normalcy...if it ever does! Cheers! Ok, getting closer!
cubsfan Posted May 1 Posted May 1 14 minutes ago, Parsad said: No, sometimes it's just calling a spade, a spade...no pun intended you racist assholes! I can't presume that my position is less tenable than say an Indian immigrant coming to the U.S. under an immigrant visa and having to build their lives within a whole new community. It's just not true! The same exists for Trump. His life, whether it is fair or not fair to completely base American life on a meritocracy, was, is and probably never will be an equitable life to what Obama lived through. It just isn't! So yeah, Trump and myself relative to those two respective comparisons, have to accept the higher moral ground exists and it's just the construct that we have to live within...at least until it does become equitable. But a large number of the population does not want that construct to exist...they do not want the "tired, the poor, the huddled masses, the wretched refuse" to get any advantage or level playing field...especially from the "shithole" countries! Cheers! This country provides the greatest opportunity in the world for immigrants. We don't start equally anywhere, which is a shame, but if you take responsibility, work hard and make good decisions in America - you end up pretty damn well. America for decades has always taken in the largest number of immigrants in the world - show me a country even close. Your buddy, Biden and his lunatic democrats, decided to flood the country with criminals and destroy the concept of melting pot and meritocracy - all in order to rig and bribe the electorate. Shit - not a citizen? No problem, we'll figure out a way for you to vote with false ID's and mail in ballots! The racial progress made over the last 50-60 years in America has been amazing, only to be set back by a selfish, Hollywood loving POS that now lives in Martha's Vineyard trying to salvage his legacy.
Gregmal Posted May 1 Posted May 1 16 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Imagine wearing an Obama mask to a party or something like that --- you're cancelled you racist! They’d call it black face! And you be like well, is he black and does he have a face? So what’s the problem? You want me to make a white Obama mask?
73 Reds Posted May 1 Posted May 1 57 minutes ago, Parsad said: Well it won't be Donald! Cheers! Why not? You and your bretheren seem to believe he can get away with anything. Strange time to be changing your tune, no?
Parsad Posted May 1 Posted May 1 33 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Imagine wearing an Obama mask to a party or something like that --- you're cancelled you racist! Don't think a mask would do it...but blackface certainly deserves it...like Trudeau did! Cheers!
Parsad Posted May 1 Posted May 1 18 minutes ago, cubsfan said: The racial progress made over the last 50-60 years in America has been amazing, only to be set back by a selfish, Hollywood loving POS that now lives in Martha's Vineyard trying to salvage his legacy. Trump doesn't live in Martha's Vineyard...he lives in Mar-a-Lago!! Ohhhh, you mean Obama! Cheers!
Parsad Posted May 1 Posted May 1 18 minutes ago, Gregmal said: They’d call it black face! And you be like well, is he black and does he have a face? So what’s the problem? You want me to make a white Obama mask? So is orange face racist too? If I wore a crappy toupee and spray tan at Halloween, could I get cancelled? Also, Obama is half-white...it's not blackface. I agree with you to a degree that cancel culture went too far. You wear a fez as a fraternity member and people think you are making fun of turbans or Muslims. Poor Shriners must get cancel threats all the time! But you have to remember that the politically correct narrative came from a time when it wasn't just naivety but straight forward racist/bigoted behavior against minorities. Or adoption of culture that doesn't belong to you...Rachel Dolowhatever...Vanilla Ice...etc. It's just that the pendulum swings too far in one direction and it becomes unfair for the times. Now the pendulum is swinging the other way and at some point it will become obviously unfair again...this time for the MAGA faithful. Whether that is years or decades away...who knows...but the pendulum does swing in a democracy and that's just part of the system. Cheers!
Parsad Posted May 1 Posted May 1 20 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Why not? You and your bretheren seem to believe he can get away with anything. Strange time to be changing your tune, no? He won't even have control after the mid-terms, how is he going to swing a 3rd term? Now if he had control of everything...I wouldn't put it past him to try and push through changes to the Constitution! Unlike you, I'm freely willing to admit what this guy is capable of. His moral compass is so off center that he's just a stable lying sociopath...so you guys have no trouble supporting him! I don't! I like certain outcomes of his Presidency, but I think he's setting dangerous precedents that are a danger to the entire system. Homeruns and strikes...he knows nothing about base hits! Cheers!
Parsad Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Iran wants to get back to the table: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-vows-maintain-pressure-iran-070946270.html Blake and Ourkid8...this is coming from Iran, not Trump! Cheers!
73 Reds Posted May 1 Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Parsad said: He won't even have control after the mid-terms, how is he going to swing a 3rd term? Now if he had control of everything...I wouldn't put it past him to try and push through changes to the Constitution! Unlike you, I'm freely willing to admit what this guy is capable of. His moral compass is so off center that he's just a stable lying sociopath...so you guys have no trouble supporting him! I don't! I like certain outcomes of his Presidency, but I think he's setting dangerous precedents that are a danger to the entire system. Homeruns and strikes...he knows nothing about base hits! Cheers! OK I get it. He only breaks laws when it suits your narrative. Tough to argue with inconsistent thought. And you have no idea what he is capable of; if you did, you wouldn't be on here multiple times each day complaining about everything Trump! You'd recognize him for who he is and move on.
cubsfan Posted May 1 Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, Parsad said: But you have to remember that the politically correct narrative came from a time when it wasn't just naivety but straight forward racist/bigoted behavior against minorities. Or adoption of culture that doesn't belong to you...Rachel Dolowhatever...Vanilla Ice...etc. It's just that the pendulum swings too far in one direction and it becomes unfair for the times. Now the pendulum is swinging the other way and at some point it will become obviously unfair again...this time for the MAGA faithful. Whether that is years or decades away...who knows...but the pendulum does swing in a democracy and that's just part of the system. Cheers! That's the Ibram Kendi argument: all history needs to be viewed through the lens of racism and discrimination, all the time. His solution: "The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination" The Southern Poverty Law Center, the identity politics pukes, and Obama embraced it , as does Harvard, the Ivy League and the Democratic Party.
Parsad Posted May 1 Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: OK I get it. He only breaks laws when it suits your narrative. Tough to argue with inconsistent thought. And you have no idea what he is capable of; if you did, you wouldn't be on here multiple times each day complaining about everything Trump! You'd recognize him for who he is and move on. Oh, I recognize who he is...I was probably one of the few people who recognized it before he became President. I was worried about a possible U.S. civil war right after he won his first term. Now, it doesn't seem that far-fetched! I think he's very dangerous systemically to what the U.S. has built over decades...while at the same time creating absolute chaos with everything he touches...even if it is something that needs to be fixed! A guy who only knows how to use a wrecking ball, but isn't very good at it...especially when he's working next to a china shop! Cheers!
73 Reds Posted May 1 Posted May 1 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Parsad said: Oh, I recognize who he is...I was probably one of the few people who recognized it before he became President. I was worried about a possible U.S. civil war right after he won his first term. Now, it doesn't seem that far-fetched! I think he's very dangerous systemically to what the U.S. has built over decades...while at the same time creating absolute chaos with everything he touches...even if it is something that needs to be fixed! A guy who only knows how to use a wrecking ball, but isn't very good at it...especially when he's working next to a china shop! Cheers! Mazal Tov but you're a little late to the civil war party. Many here in this Country recognized that was a potential threat long before Trump. Systemically, he is precisely the right guy for the job at the right time. Otherwise, we'd be heading down a path where a civil war and multi-state succession would have become a real possibility. It still is, politics being so divisive and large population centers believing that socialism and government are the answers to everything. Maybe in Canada but not here. Edited May 1 by 73 Reds spelling
Parsad Posted May 1 Posted May 1 10 minutes ago, cubsfan said: That's the Ibram Kendi argument: all history needs to be viewed through the lens of racism and discrimination, all the time. His solution: "The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination" The Southern Poverty Law Center, the identity politics pukes, and Obama embraced it , as does Harvard, the Ivy League and the Democratic Party. I really have to ask Larry Sarbit for the name of the book he mentioned on U.S. elections like 15 years ago. But essentially the book said that the U.S. and its institutions get the governance they deserve, not what they necessarily want. Basically, the pendulum swings in the democracy and the governance is decided by how far that pendulum swings. And then it goes the other way and half the population gets government they do not want...but may need. In other words, Trump is the outcome of the last 20-30 years of the pendulum going one way...Obama/Biden was probably the tail-end of the previous swing. Not what you want...but may be needed. Cheers!
changegonnacome Posted May 1 Posted May 1 3 hours ago, cwericb said: What is your definition of success? What was the objective of the war? Let's see: Regime change - Failure The only thing that ever made Epic Fury worthwhile, when you really really think about it for a second, was if it resulted in regime change. That's it. It failed on the only objective that really matters here. Everything since that failure (reverse blockades, civilization annihilation threat tweets) has been an exercise in political theatre......a 'show' which is costing the global economy hundreds of billions and the US tens of billions.
Gregmal Posted May 1 Posted May 1 51 minutes ago, Parsad said: So is orange face racist too? If I wore a crappy toupee and spray tan at Halloween, could I get cancelled? Also, Obama is half-white...it's not blackface. Thats kinda what I was getting at. The reaction to someone wearing an orange mask and toupee or posting caricature cartoons of one guy, is not met with the same outrage and visceral reactions as another, even when it's the exact same thing.(Unless of course folks then following it up with the stupid "mind reader" shit, where they tell you what THEY know, YOU were "thinking", and thus why two people doing the same thing is actually...different?) I mean at its core, how stupid is it, inherently and from an intellectual level saying a dark person is a gorilla, just because they are dark? Are they also a highway road thats black? Is a white guy slur calling him any object that happens to be white LOL? Its retarded. What about Asians? Oh you look like a lion, even thought you dont, just because they kinda might possibly have a shade of fur that falls under the same broad Crayola color category? However, if one wanted to take the comedic route, and you say "so and so looks like a .....", who cares? The Obamas dont look like any gorillas that Ive ever seen, but I remember when I was younger there were folks that said Patrick Ewing had a gorilla face(and push comes to shove, he does lmfao)....one of my good friends... literally looks like an ape charicature. Big droopy midsection, man tits, block shaped head with protruding snout...it's hilarious...he's Italian/white! Trump admittedly does carry the porky pig look decently well. End of the day who TF cares? Folks should be able to laugh and frankly Im glad its swinging the other way because these wokios turned everything into a one sided game of "everything is racist" and it got super out of hand at a point in time when....none of these "racist" issues really existed to the extent it was portrayed. For a brief period of time remember when there was outrage over straight actors playing gay people in the movies? But never a word when a gay guy played a straight character. Nor any questions from anyone about why TF it even mattered? Or anyone even bringing up the fact that "acting" is by definitely pretending! Liberals can be so retarded sometimes.
cubsfan Posted May 1 Posted May 1 46 minutes ago, Parsad said: I really have to ask Larry Sarbit for the name of the book he mentioned on U.S. elections like 15 years ago. But essentially the book said that the U.S. and its institutions get the governance they deserve, not what they necessarily want. Basically, the pendulum swings in the democracy and the governance is decided by how far that pendulum swings. And then it goes the other way and half the population gets government they do not want...but may need. In other words, Trump is the outcome of the last 20-30 years of the pendulum going one way...Obama/Biden was probably the tail-end of the previous swing. Not what you want...but may be needed. Cheers! I can't argue with that! Reds point is the issue - are we close to civil war? Certainly civil unrest has taken over and violence is perfectly ok. When many citizens figure out that socialism was the goal - they took back the country. It remains to be seen where we end up. With socialist centers like CA, NY,MN and ILL - many are going to end up in FL, TX, TN - and the great social experiment will continue.
cubsfan Posted May 1 Posted May 1 42 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: The only thing that ever made Epic Fury worthwhile, when you really really think about it for a second, was if it resulted in regime change. That's it. It failed on the only objective that really matters here. Everything since that failure (reverse blockades, civilization annihilation threat tweets) has been an exercise in political theatre......a 'show' which is costing the global economy hundreds of billions and the US tens of billions. The war is basically won, it's all about the details now. The Soviet Union did not fall until 2 years after the Berlin Wall came down - so it make take some time for the regime to exit. In the meantime, they sign their own death warrant if they misbehave. Iran not having a military, ICBM's and nukes is well worth the $25B. I mean after Obama gave the mullahs everything they needed to destroy the Middle East and constantly threaten the West, including their neighbors - we are getting off cheap.
Parsad Posted May 1 Posted May 1 All those NY'ers moving to Florida! Cheers! Zillow listings show just how desperate sellers are getting in Florida as real estate crash begins
Parsad Posted May 1 Posted May 1 31 minutes ago, cubsfan said: I can't argue with that! Reds point is the issue - are we close to civil war? Certainly civil unrest has taken over and violence is perfectly ok. When many citizens figure out that socialism was the goal - they took back the country. It remains to be seen where we end up. With socialist centers like CA, NY,MN and ILL - many are going to end up in FL, TX, TN - and the great social experiment will continue. I don't think we're going to see civil war...but my point was that type of division is apparent in politics today. Cheers!
changegonnacome Posted May 1 Posted May 1 12 minutes ago, cubsfan said: The war is basically won I think the battle is won but the war to stop Iran getting a bomb over the medium-long term is now lost. Epic Fury’s failure to change the regime has essentially proved every nuclear hardliner inside the Iranian regime correct….while at the same time the US has turned its cards over and showed it lacks the backbone to do what would be needed to be done to actually stop an Iranian regime racing for a bomb and that’s a boots on the ground invasion. The Iranian’s will sign or agree to whatever - but armed with those two new ‘insights’ above (nuclear deterrents are the singular deterrent answer AND the US hasn’t the backbone for a real war)….they will take a nuclear program deep deep underground.
73 Reds Posted May 1 Posted May 1 13 minutes ago, Parsad said: All those NY'ers moving to Florida! Cheers! Zillow listings show just how desperate sellers are getting in Florida as real estate crash begins LOL, consider the source. Nothing goes straight up but there's no place I'd rather be doing RE business than in Florida.
Gregmal Posted May 1 Posted May 1 10 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: LOL, consider the source. Nothing goes straight up but there's no place I'd rather be doing RE business than in Florida. Yea these are dime a dozen click bait pieces for NYers by NYers lol. What they don’t tell you is how much these properties are still up over the last 5/10/15 years. You get some oversupply, mainly because they are building so much to accommodate all the blue state refugees.
73 Reds Posted May 1 Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Yea these are dime a dozen click bait pieces for NYers by NYers lol. What they don’t tell you is how much these properties are still up over the last 5/10/15 years. You get some oversupply, mainly because they are building so much to accommodate all the blue state refugees. Long term trends always elude short term thinking.
Blake Hampton Posted May 1 Posted May 1 (edited) NYT: How Iran Accumulated 11 Tons of Enriched Uranium "Iran lacked a single bomb’s worth of uranium in 2018, when Mr. Trump withdrew the United States from the pact and reimposed a series of tough economic sanctions. Then Iran began to enrich above the deal’s limit, first at low enrichment levels to pressure the West and then up to 20 percent in early 2021, just before Mr. Trump left office. The Biden administration tried, unsuccessfully, to restore aspects of the abandoned deal. Throughout the negotiations, Iran enriched uranium to an unprecedented level of up to 60 percent — a hairsbreadth away from the preferred grade for atom bombs. With Mr. Trump again in office in 2025, Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium grew at the fastest rate since the International Atomic Energy Agency started reporting." Edited May 1 by Blake Hampton
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