Parsad Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 For anyone not going, Morningstar will have a live blog of the AGM: http://discuss.morningstar.com/NewSocialize/blogs/berkshire/default.aspx Last year a couple of other news sources also had live blogs going. If you know of any others, please add a link on this thread. I will be up in the morning following them. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogermunibond Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Live coverage from the hometown (Berkshire-owned) paper. http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1208&u_sid=10622671 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncapital Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Do you think there will be any real-time voice-to-print transcripts, basically a rolling transcript of the event this year or it will take a few days for a printed transcript to be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarley Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Do you think there will be any real-time voice-to-print transcripts, basically a rolling transcript of the event this year or it will take a few days for a printed transcript to be available? That link rogermunibond posted looks like it will be as close to a running transcript as we'll likely get. It would be so easy to stream the festivities online and/or host a stream/transcript in an archive. I wonder why companies don't bother. Hell, you could pay an intern $15/hour to just type the Q&A into a live chat stream (or, dare I say twitter). For those of us who aren't attending that would be the next best thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncapital Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Probably the attendance would drop significantly if it was web-streamed. Still great transcripts pop up anyway in a few days. Tilson had a good one last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpectedValue Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Coverage on Twitter- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crip1 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Tariq, Thanks...pinging between the three "tweets" is almost like being there...except I am laying in bed sipping on coffee! -Crip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpectedValue Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Wow- "if Buffett could have invested his whole net worth, it would have been in Wells Fargo when they ticked below at 9.00/share" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarley Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 The Omaha.com live feed is very good. Better than the tweets I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarley Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Wow- "if Buffett could have invested his whole net worth, it would have been in Wells Fargo when they ticked below at 9.00/share" Yeah, i saw that too. Incredible that he'd come out that explicitly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpectedValue Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Zarley, I definitely agree about the Omaha.com site, its coverage is more detailed. But, I think the people on Twitter sometimes manage to catch different angles on what is said. I'm using both right now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted May 2, 2009 Author Share Posted May 2, 2009 Wow- "if Buffett could have invested his whole net worth, it would have been in Wells Fargo when they ticked below at 9.00/share" Hey, I got that one dead on! Now if he only said the same thing about GE under $9 per share! ;D Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandeep Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Yes. I agree. If I didn't see the insights from the twitter pages about WFC and USB, I would be at loss. BRK would buy all of those two if they could. Buffett would want to put all of his net worth at WFC if it goes to 9 again. Those are great insights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandeep Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Great meeting: Bottom line: -Stocks are cheap, not as cheap at 1974, but pretty darn cheap. -It's time to buy WFC under 10 and USB What did you guys think? I wish he had said more about Swiss Re/GE. I'm accumulating cash to buy these guys. Just waiting for a dip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungerville Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I was lucky to get GE at $6 something. I think Ucc got some too down that low. Mine was in the form of options which I sold off when it hit 9 something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crip1 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Now that Warren said that, the chances of WFC getting to $9 is pretty close to nil. I got in with a smallish position at $10.50 and need to thank the gentleman at the Corner of BRK and FFH dinner (the night before the FFH meeting) who talked me out of selling. -Crip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basl1 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I agree it was a phenomenal meeting. I'll share what I can to add to my comments. Without a doubt, WFC was a phenomenal buy at $9.00 changes ahead US healthcare, financial system regulation, inflation, and much more Charlie finally said a lot more was unplugged ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandeep Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Ya lol. I wish I bought at 7.50...I was watching it all day. I only have 100 shares of USB at 8.62 and a 100 GE at 9.90. I wish I bought more. :( I'm busy saving up now. When USB, WFC hit 11, I'm going to buy, buy, buy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philassor Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Buffett was full of praise regarding Jamie Dimon's annual letter and his explanation of the financial mayhem: http://investor.shareholder.com/jpmorganchase/annual.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partner24 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I never bought WFC, even if I was really tempted at near 8$, because it is OUTSIDE my circle of competence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandeep Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 What is in your circle of competence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partner24 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 What's within my circle of competence? Frankly, just enough to be happy with my investement universe of choices. First of all, I can fairly say that finding good to great investors at insurance, diversified conglomerate companies, mutual funds, etc. is within my circle of competence (100% of my personal holdings are there). Online marketing and ticketing software is also fairly within it (it's my daily job). Restaurants, retail, food and other basic industries like that are also reasonably within. There is also others that are reasonable within, but give me 5 minutes to study any company and I should be able to give you more than 9 times out of ten an answer and I keep working on shorten the time needed to do so. And you? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basl1 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 For what it's worth, I put this summary together. Much of this has been covered. A sign at a coffee shop said it all. “Welcome Formerly Rich People.” That’s why 35,000 Buffetheads went to Omaha, Nebraska to see and hear Charlie Munger and Warren Buffet who entertained and enthralled them for over 5 hours in a question and answer session at the overflowing Qwest Center. It was the second meeting I had attended, the so called “Woodstock for capitalism” which many go to as a yearly pilgrimage, and according to many who were present, it was the best meeting ever. And for those who were expecting bad news - partly because of the economy and partly because Berkshire failed to release its earnings on the Friday before the meeting – they were gravely disappointed. Warren explained the missed the report because it was a calendar week early, and shocked all involved with $1.7 billion in income, during one of the worst recessions in history, compared to $1.9 billion for the first quarter of last year, when everything was “rosy”. Warren and Charlie were in fine form, completely optimistic as to the long term prospects for America and Berkshire. Indeed, they felt many of the companies they own were better off for the downturn. And they felt many would be much better off as the ranks of the competition thinned. And in some areas - such as GEICO – they are leading the charge and rapidly seizing market share. “We want everyone to know that we are the lowest price – bar none. If anyone is concerned about prices, they need to see us, “ says Warren. This was a rare, wonderful meeting – probably Charlie Munger’s greatest hour. Whereas previously, he’d usually just say “I have nothing to add.”, at this event he literally was unplugged, showing his copious whit and wisdom. Part of what aided this was the new format, in which questions from three hand chosen panelists were interspersed with those from the audience. This allowed the questions to stay “on track.” Of course, there was the well honed wisdom. For example, Buffett counseled that finance is simply applying the 2,600 (Warren originally said 600 B.C. but soon stated that he forgot exactly when it was written, although he’s old, he wasn’t around then – but Charlie was) old Aesop fable – “a bird in hand is worth two in the bush.” To apply this today you must be able to weigh the variables accurately –the number of trees, the number of birds, how difficult it is to catch a bird in the trees, etc. Then he went on to say that to evaluate companies, you don’t need advanced mathematics. In fact, higher mathematics and high I.Q. are often a detriment – if you have an I.Q. of 150 give away 30 points to a friend. An universities and MBA courses need to only teach two courses – how to evaluate a company’s worth, and when to invest in it. And a great reference is Benjamin Grahams book, “The Intelligent Investor.”The reason there are so many courses is because professors need a reason to exist and if they didn’t have something to teach, it’ll be a pretty short course. He also went on to say that watching good investors and copying them is not a bad idea. AS for Berkshire, he said that the company and its leaders didn’t “cover ourselves in glory” in 2008. The companies value dropped by 9.6% on 2008, by his count, and it’s stock price dropped by a third. While he didn’t come right out and state that Berkshire was a good buy, he did state that Berkshire offers excellent value. With book value of the stock at around 90,000 – you get a lot more with Berkshire than most stocks – including Warren Buffet picking stock at a yearly salary of 100,000. Several times to questions, he stated he felt that Wells Fargo was the best positioned to capitalize on growth. He also stated that they got Wachovia and a great price. When the stock hit $9.00 he told one university group, which he was speaking to when it happened ( announced, of course, by a student using one of those blackberries or “what ever you call them things”), that if he was to put all his value in one stock, he’d do it in Wells Fargo. At another time he said, if he could, he’d buy all of Wells Fargo and MTB, but he lacked the money. But he cautioned that it’s difficult for the average banker to understand enough about banks to invest in them. He noted that he invested, wrongly, in Irish banks in 2008 and lost Berkshire some money. He stated that investing in a vehicle that tracks the overall stock market isn’t bad. In a discussion on housing, the duo of Munger and Buffet stated that the nation produces 1.3 million units a year but built and excess of 2 million housing units. Now construction is 500,000 units a year, but it will take time to absorb the excess. Munger went on to say that in markets like Omaha, prices have neither risen or fallen sharply. “If I were a young person wanting a home in Omaha, I would buy it tomorrow,” he said. Some markets, such as South Florida, will have difficulties for some time, added Buffett, but it will recover. “The main problem is everyone thought prices would rise forever. It never has but this time was different. When prices fell, we ran into the situation we are now in, “ said Buffett. Regarding the future, Buffett said there will likely be inflation and less buying power of the dollar. “That will occur because it’ll be the easiest way to handle this financial situation – paying back in future dollars that’ll be worth less. Some say the Chinese will pay for it because they own the most U.S. bonds that will be paid back in depreciated dollars.” Half the questions came from Carol Lewis of Fortune magazine, Andrew Ross Sorkin of the New York times and Betty Quick of CNBC, who chose questions from those sent to them. The other half came from attendees who entered a lottery to be chosen. Asked about his successor, Buffett stated that if he died tomorrow there are three individuals in the Berkshire ranks that can take over the reigns tomorrow and four in or available to Bekshire who could do the investments. “The one who can’t be replaced is Ajit Jain who is unique,” said Buffett. After luch, Buffet showed cheque on the “big screen” showing Berkshire lost $90 on a 4 month 5 million dollar treasury bill. “I’m not sure you’ll see this again in your lifetime.”He jokingly said, “You would have been better off to put it in a mattress from Nebraska Furniture Mart.” Asked if federal money should be best spent on infrastructure projects like they did in the thirties, Munger said “yes”. To end off the event, Buffett’s nephew asked what is the best way to stimulate the housing market. Buffet said, Create more families.” His sisters grandson then proposed to his girlfriend, who said, “yes.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 Thanks very much for the additional comments Jim! I really liked the format of the questions asked this year. Much improved from the last few years. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basl1 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Humbly, Parsad, my name is Barry Barry Lycka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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