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Not to mention even if schools manage to get solid systems and software in place for online learning there is still the issue of teachers themselves. Online teaching is a whole different ballgame. Throw in teachers over the age of 50 who have been in the classroom for 30 years and their effectiveness dwindles. Here in PA a ton of my coworkers pulled their kids from school and rushed them to PA cyber school simply because the teachers are at least trained for online learning. You're missing the point. The school system besides other important things is a giant day care program to look after kids while parents go to work so they don't become delinquents. It doesn't work online. It needs to be physical. The timeline is also political to reopen schools and get those jobs counted again before the election. Many of the 'unemployed' are actually employed, but staying home with kids. The opposite is true too. Many are unemployed, but may still be receiving benefits and compensation and therefore cannot file for unemployment yet, and may not be counted in unemployment figures. At my wife's employer, they are still receiving health insurance and accruing negative PTO (which is cash paid to them by the employer). And they are ALSO collecting unemployment. Isn't that receiving benefits and compensation? Seems counter to what you are saying, can you explain what you mean?
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Not to mention even if schools manage to get solid systems and software in place for online learning there is still the issue of teachers themselves. Online teaching is a whole different ballgame. Throw in teachers over the age of 50 who have been in the classroom for 30 years and their effectiveness dwindles. Here in PA a ton of my coworkers pulled their kids from school and rushed them to PA cyber school simply because the teachers are at least trained for online learning. You're missing the point. The school system besides other important things is a giant day care program to look after kids while parents go to work so they don't become delinquents. It doesn't work online. It needs to be physical. The timeline is also political to reopen schools and get those jobs counted again before the election. Many of the 'unemployed' are actually employed, but staying home with kids.
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He had nobody like that in his study. His prescribed diet is the only one that has shown a reversal of cardiovascular disease. Others have slowed down the progression, but none other has reversed it. I looked more into it and this guy has decent criticism. https://theskepticalcardiologist.com/2017/05/14/more-incredibly-bad-science-from-dr-esselstyns-plant-based-vegan-diet-study/ Has his diet been studied by others or on a larger sample size? Bill Clinton is still alive today, following the Dean Ornish diet. It's fairly close to the one Esselstein promotes -- Ornish allows him a serving of salmon once a week and small servings of nuts, for example. No other meat and only fat-free dairy. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-almost-everything-dean-ornish-says-about-nutrition-is-wrong/
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He had nobody like that in his study. His prescribed diet is the only one that has shown a reversal of cardiovascular disease. Others have slowed down the progression, but none other has reversed it.
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They're not mutually exclusive. You have whole foods vegans (me), and then there are processed and junk food vegans too.
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On supplements... Not many people eat a diet without fortified foods (milk, orange juice, corn flakes, grape nuts, bread, etc..). All fortified because your diets with too few vegetables are wholly inadequate. Nutritional yeast is fortified with B12 and that's how I get it. Nobody on a whole foods diet eats the fake meat or the processed sugar. Iff they did, they wouldn't be on the diet. There are plenty of unhealthy vegans -- an Oreo cookie is vegan. Coca-Cola is vegan. If you do a study on them, pretty sure you'll find heart disease there. Most of the time I try to avoid anything processed. Wine of course is processed though. BG2008's diet just isn't sustainable. We can all be whole foods plant-based, but we cannot all be meat based. Not enough land/water without additional deforestation.
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Dr Caldwell Esselstein’s study is one where he took 24 of the worst of the worst cardiac patients and just put them on his prescribed diet. None of them had another issue again, which is unheard of, and this began in the 80s. ( I believe one who went back in sugar and lamb chops had another heart attack or stroke ). Of those who stayed on the diet, the angiograms show their blockages opening back up, restoring flow. What he is doing with these patients is very different from what qualifies as vegan or vegetarian in other studies. He didn’t cherry pick the Buffett with good genes — he started with a study of 24 of the worst of the worst, triple bypass candidates. These were his own patients, he didn’t manipulate the study through clever sampling.
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Pre-civilized humanity was pretty interesting in terms of life expectancy. It was essentially a tri-modal distribution: lots of deaths around birth/infancy, around 25-30 (usually dying of tooth infections), and the remainder actually living into their late years (50s, 60s, 70s). Sources? 8) I'm not gonna dig it up for you, but I know that Sweeden has kept good mortality tables going back a long time. I was really surprised when I first found out. Big surprise, life expectancy isn't really increasing by much and it isn't increasing more than before. Look at how long the first 6 or so US Presidents lived. And Ben Franklin.
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If Donald Trump Jr's girlfriend has it, then I don't see how he doesn't also have it too (unless he was with another girlfriend lately): https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/03/politics/kimberly-guilfoyle-positive-coronavirus-test/index.html Guilfoyle has "been with a lot of the campaign donors" in recent days, one source familiar with the matter said. Billed as a "Mountain West Ranch Retreat," one event occurred in Gallatin Gateway, Montana, from Tuesday until Thursday, according to one of the people. Another event was billed as the "Rapid City Roundup Retreat" in Rapid City, South Dakota, from Thursday to Friday. The people said Guilfoyle was not seen wearing a mask during the events.
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Trigger alert! Doctors hate this trick! I cut my net carbs down to 20 grams/day and all a sudden i lose 40-45lbs in a 16 month period. I didn't even exercise much. My diet is a little heavy on bacon and eggs at the moment. (Eric, to each his/her own. Keto is the way that I keep the weight off. Please play along with this faux meat vs Vegan drama that I am creating.) Going whole foods plant-based would get you the same weight loss while also reversing cardiovascular disease, which you are not getting on the all-meat diet. If weight loss were the only goal I'd rather eat the bacon and eggs like you. But just remember, the arteries that feed your erections are much smaller than the coronary arteries, so guess what's gonna go first. I don't think my blood work has ever been so good. Thank you for thinking of my junk. I think going whole foods plant-based would get me depressed. Just can't imagine skipping meat, cheese, and seafood. Honestly, I wish I can do a Vegan diet. I doubt my body is built for that. But then I said the same thing about carbs and now I feel much better on a higher fat diet. #All_Out_Keto_Vs_Vegan_War (Joking) The blood work is not measuring the problem if you are talking about blood lipids: https://www.clevelandheartlab.com/blog/the-gut-the-heart-and-tmao/ https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/red-meat-tmao-and-your-heart Eric, I don't know what to think of new scientific studies on diets anymore. For years we were told to eat 10+ servings of carbs a day. It didn't even distinguish between refined carbs or whole grain. Eggs were bad, eggs were good, fat was bad, fat is good. I now try to think about a world without agriculture and what would human being eat then? I assume that we are naturally omnivores. We probably ate meat, fish, berries, and some sort of veggies. Despite thousands of years of civilization, I don't think human metabolism has evolved much. This is largely due to the fact that humans are very good at surviving and we haven't needed dramatic mutations in our genes to survive in the last 10,000 years or so. The joke is that "You're not really on a Keto diet, unless you tell people." I guess the same goes for people on a vegan diet "You're not truly Vegan, unless you tell people." I am self aware that I am annoying to a fault with my going on and on about Keto. If red meat causes cancer and limp dick, I guess I'll take my chances. As I get older, my desire for red meat will likely go down and I'll focus on fish and veggie fats such as avocado etc. To each their own. Let's just eat what makes us happy and allow us to believe our own dietary religions. There has long been a link between red meat and cardiovascular disease. Being right for the wrong reason for a long time does not make them wrong about the danger of red meat, although now it's a "boy who cried wolf" situation where people have stopped listening because the explanation wasn't correct the first time and now it's changed with new discoveries and deeper understanding. Think of how frustrated people are about listening to scientists about wearing masks, when earlier this year they were told that masks don't help. Somewhere around the 19 minute mark, one of the Cleveland Clinic doctors shows the results of his patients with reversal of cardiovascular disease:
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Trigger alert! Doctors hate this trick! I cut my net carbs down to 20 grams/day and all a sudden i lose 40-45lbs in a 16 month period. I didn't even exercise much. My diet is a little heavy on bacon and eggs at the moment. (Eric, to each his/her own. Keto is the way that I keep the weight off. Please play along with this faux meat vs Vegan drama that I am creating.) Going whole foods plant-based would get you the same weight loss while also reversing cardiovascular disease, which you are not getting on the all-meat diet. If weight loss were the only goal I'd rather eat the bacon and eggs like you. But just remember, the arteries that feed your erections are much smaller than the coronary arteries, so guess what's gonna go first. I don't think my blood work has ever been so good. Thank you for thinking of my junk. I think going whole foods plant-based would get me depressed. Just can't imagine skipping meat, cheese, and seafood. Honestly, I wish I can do a Vegan diet. I doubt my body is built for that. But then I said the same thing about carbs and now I feel much better on a higher fat diet. #All_Out_Keto_Vs_Vegan_War (Joking) The blood work is not measuring the problem if you are talking about blood lipids: https://www.clevelandheartlab.com/blog/the-gut-the-heart-and-tmao/ https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/red-meat-tmao-and-your-heart
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Trigger alert! Doctors hate this trick! I cut my net carbs down to 20 grams/day and all a sudden i lose 40-45lbs in a 16 month period. I didn't even exercise much. My diet is a little heavy on bacon and eggs at the moment. (Eric, to each his/her own. Keto is the way that I keep the weight off. Please play along with this faux meat vs Vegan drama that I am creating.) Going whole foods plant-based would get you the same weight loss while also reversing cardiovascular disease, which you are not getting on the all-meat diet. If weight loss were the only goal I'd rather eat the bacon and eggs like you. But just remember, the arteries that feed your erections are much smaller than the coronary arteries, so guess what's gonna go first.
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I'm watching last night's ABC news on Hulu. This fear over a pork shortage due to covid-19 is such a non-crisis. The best thing that could probably happen to the US health is to cut meat consumption down by 80%, even 100%. It's alarming that Trump used an executive order to keep meat packing plants open, so unnecessary.
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Eric did you go vegetarian? I remember you used to raise chickens and would eat fresh chicken. Cheers! Worse than vegetarian: I have been eating vegan for more than a year.
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Here is what I might have for a day of groceries for myself: Breakfast: oatmeal Lunch: broccoli & spinach, Dinner: cauliflower with wild rice,beans, and corn with glass of wine. About $12/day
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Microsoft founder Bill Gates said he talks to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, regularly. In terms of a timeline, Gates said he's aligned with Fauci on his prediction that there will be a viable vaccine by the end of the year, or early 2021. Gates explained that there are two characteristics being evaluated in developing a vaccine. Firstly, that the vaccine prevents you from getting sick and secondly, that it prevents you spreading it to others. On the latter, he warned that "it's not guaranteed that the vaccine will be a perfect transmission blocker." Despite that, Gates said recent evidence points to the antibody response being "very strong," which suggests about a year of immunity to anyone who gets the disease. https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-06-25-20-intl/h_f9cdeec8b36668a90a2807116308916e
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War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
ERICOPOLY replied to muscleman's topic in General Discussion
Similar is said about Putin in this article: Putin’s goal today is the same as when he invaded my country in 2008: to tighten his grip on the levers of power in Russia. Whenever Putin’s domestic popularity dips, he either escalates an ongoing conflict or launches a new offensive. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/15/russias-next-land-grab-wont-be-in-an-ex-soviet-state-it-will-be-in-europe-putin-saakashvili-sweden-finland-arctic-northern-sea-route-baltics-nato/ -
Caution: Preprints are preliminary reports of work that have not been certified by peer review. They should not be relied on to guide clinical practice or health-related behavior and should not be reported in news media as established information. https://www.medrxiv.org/
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I find that surprising since the CDC recommends getting the flu vaccine by the end of October each year. Then the number of flu cases rise afterwards. Because we all know that summer time respiratory diseases go down and winter they go up. Thats why they give flu vaccine in October. Nevertheless. Cases rising X amount after locking people down does not show that it was ineffective. For example, let's say one person in my household was just exposed on the morning the lockdown began. That person doesn't test positive for 10 more days, and then 10 more days after that a couple more people in the household come down with it. That's 20 days of lockdown and an explosion in cases within my household. Did you just accidentally make a case against lockdowns? ;) Yup. Eric just described how to get an explosion of cases. The data from NYC itself is clear. More crowded, more cases. People living in small houses, more cases. People going out such as transit and police, less cases. I take it you are being facetious. Intra-household spread is going to occur regardless of policy. No, I am not being facetious. See below. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html Cuomo says it’s ‘shocking’ most new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who had been staying home https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/05/18/cuomo-said-most-coronavirus-cases-are-from-people-staying-at-home-public-health-experts-have-a-few-ideas-why/#5389e322d20e I have put bold emphasis on what I deem suspicious and particularly interesting (was this a political statement by Cuomo?). Jha called for Cuomo to release the full survey results: “Without having a full splay of the data, it’s very hard to know what this analysis tells you.” Cuomo’s office did not respond to multiple requests for comment by Forbes. Social media users questioned the survey’s results, saying that because patients were coming from their homes, it meant that stay-at-home orders were flawed or an outright failure. Jha disagreed, saying other studies have shown that reducing people’s mobility flattens the curve, and that’s what has taken place in New York’s outbreak. “I don’t have a question in my mind whether ‘stay at home’ worked,” Jha said. Both Vasan and Jha said the type of lockdown seen in Wuhan, where COVID-19 was first detected, was much more stringent than what New York and other U.S. states have been under—meaning the virus could be transmitting more easily here. Dr. Ashish Jha, Director of Harvard Global Health Institute, was first surprised by the survey’s results, but realized that “older and sicker people are less likely to go out and travel, and much more likely to get infected and to need hospital care.” Dr. Ashwin Vasan, Columbia University Medical Center professor and CEO of nonprofit Fountain House, wanted to know more about the patients: “Even though these people are older, do they live with essential workers? Did they live in multi-generational households?” According to Vasan, who also once served as an executive director for the NYC Department of Health, older people either living with essential workers or in multi-generational households are more common in low income and African American communities. What New York did not account for, Vasan said, was transmission inside apartment buildings—”particularly in densely-populated communities, which seems to track with the [survey’s] results.”
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I find that surprising since the CDC recommends getting the flu vaccine by the end of October each year. Then the number of flu cases rise afterwards. Because we all know that summer time respiratory diseases go down and winter they go up. Thats why they give flu vaccine in October. Nevertheless. Cases rising X amount after locking people down does not show that it was ineffective. For example, let's say one person in my household was just exposed on the morning the lockdown began. That person doesn't test positive for 10 more days, and then 10 more days after that a couple more people in the household come down with it. That's 20 days of lockdown and an explosion in cases within my household. Did you just accidentally make a case against lockdowns? ;) Yup. Eric just described how to get an explosion of cases. The data from NYC itself is clear. More crowded, more cases. People living in small houses, more cases. People going out such as transit and police, less cases. I take it you are being facetious. Intra-household spread is going to occur regardless of policy.
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Are cases starting to go down?
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I find that surprising since the CDC recommends getting the flu vaccine by the end of October each year. Then the number of flu cases rise afterwards. Because we all know that summer time respiratory diseases go down and winter they go up. Thats why they give flu vaccine in October. Nevertheless. Cases rising X amount after locking people down does not show that it was ineffective. For example, let's say one person in my household was just exposed on the morning the lockdown began. That person doesn't test positive for 10 more days, and then 10 more days after that a couple more people in the household come down with it. That's 20 days of lockdown and an explosion in cases within my household.
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I find that surprising since the CDC recommends getting the flu vaccine by the end of October each year. Then the number of flu cases rise afterwards.
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Increasing contact tracing may also increase the rate of positive tests. I'm not leaning either way.
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Trump says he asked 'to slow testing down' for coronavirus because of increased cases https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/trump-says-he-asked-to-slow-testing-down-for-coronavirus-because-of-increased-cases-85520453715