John Hjorth

That's true, if the mentality in 'Southern Denmark', the part of Denmark you see to the right of UK on a map, don't care about the Danish population up there in the North. We actually do. We actually do, even despite they up there are innuits, who don't meet up in the morning at work, when the start of the seal hunt season begins, mayors etc., on the other hand meets in timely that day, only to start CPR on kindergardens etc. where there is noone taking care of kids delivered there that morning! In short - It all works out wonderfully!

According to World Stats I see Canadian population at around 40 million [by now at 40,126,723, actually]. Then imagine a country with about 6 million, a minority of that populating the largest part of the country, by area measures geografically, all 6 million hearing POTUS saying '... I might get it anyway!', 'for security reasons' his vice president and another high ranking guy visible sitting behind him at the video, with huge smiles, indicating it's funny, because its 'funny' what POTUS is saying. Later good laughes by these too men in the same way, when POTUS talks about the 'good folks in Greenland'. What's next? - Naturally POTUS himself TACOs out, sending his vice president, who also chickens out!, by going to Thule Star Base in stead of Nuuk, so he is 'protected', because rotten tomatoes and eggs are easy 'to grow', as easy 'to grow' in Greenland as anywhere - you just buy them in a shop up there, and omit putting them in a fridge! What's next : After that 'success', POTUS sends his son in Trump Force 2 [or is it 1?], this time to Nuuk, on a totally private visit, because nobobody part of public Greenland are willing to meet and greet him. What happens then on that day under that visit? POTUS' son hands out to some bums hanging out on a street corner some green notes ['greens'], and some MAGA caps, so his team gets the opportunity to take photos of those bums with their new MAGA caps!, after which to get out of there quickly, so he is out risk of getting hit by some 'not fresh' eggs and tomatoes! Why not also Iceland? [for strategic, security] reasons [member of NATO, no defense!], why not Svalbard? [part of Norway] - much more strategically important location than Greenland for USA!, but the Nobel Prize Commitee is elected by the Norwegian government!?

Anyone heard or read any comments from Vladimir Putin today, directly, -comments from any or all his cronies doesen't count here!, or at least such comments made available from this man directly, after the meetings in White House ended yesterday?

CNBC-TV18 [August 18th 2025] : White House LIVE: Zelenskyy Meets President Trump in D.C. to Discuss Russia-Ukraine War| Putin |N18G [Full video, John] . Quite a mouthful, almost 12 hours, but there you have it, if you are in need of it. Edit : Things starts around the 5:15:00 mark, but there is an error with the sound in the first short moment, when the sound is from outside White House, where POTUS has already begun speaking [annoying, but not material, I think].

Wrong, totally wrong, If you engage with someone, who can't be trusted in a deal, it's naturally Okay. ANd it's actually not that complicated. You simply have to make sure your counterpart delivers first, and you later, not the other way around. In financial terms, by a CFO it's called 'No credit available to you!'. If the counterpart asks you - feeling very hurt and insulted : 'Why?', Your answer is always : 'That may appear evident to you already!' Works every time, especially in the case of an balance already existing! - It's called request for prepayment. Handing over land to Putin in exchange for a promise about something related to him promising not to do something in the future, him not pursuing in his wet imperialistic dreams and fantasies, is not only naive, it's also plain dumb. - - - o 0 o - - - Absolutely no need to handle things like a nun who has never tried to have a certain [male], not further specified, thingy in her hands! - After making this mistake perhaps one time, you'll never engage in it again!

Mike [ @cubsfan ], Honestly, what is it that is happenening and going on rececently with you?! -Have you lost your mind, or have you just dropped your pacifier, now desparately searching for a new one?

Somewhere, you are right, Mike [ @cubsfan ], Thank you, So, to me, me personally, it's nothing less than striking to me, to experience seven European leaders, without even asking in advance for a binding agenda and time schedule, going to Washington, getting out-maneuvered, so to say, in advance ! It's totally ridiculous! - Amateurish!, in political frothy waters, where a lots of stuff are on stake. - - - o 0 o - - - Not so long long ago Sanjeev [ @Parsad ], phrased a carefully thought out post here on CofB&F about beeing '´street smart'. -I'll never forget! - - - o 0 o - - - I'm personally so frustrated over this, that the only thing, that likely - for me - vill create some kind of relief, is posting a very kinky joke here on CofB&F! -I think, I actually mean, that what we all individually preach here on CofB&F is 'Each to their own!', right?

Now POTUS is on a personal way-off, off-topic rant, talking about US ballots in a carefully orchestrated pre-session [pre-meeting] press conference! - Great, just great! - What a great boutique! - Simply awesome! - My sincere deepfelt thoughts hereby goes out to the Europeans waiting in a WH waitingroom!

It appears Mike [ @cubsfan ] after posting, shortly after, decided to edit own post, for a good reason. The question at hand right now is actually 'relative strength', but who compared to who?

Sure! - I see certain European leaders, one for one - arrive at the White House, live on Danish tv2.dk, while wondering if there are any snacks and such available for them in their WH waiting room, where they are getting stuffed away, for now. Then suddenly, in a popping up screen, lower left corner, I see a small pop-up screen over-lay, a Danish reporter there, located somewhere in the streets of Kyiv, telling the existing sound related to the screen overlay transmitted, is of the Ukrainian/Kyiv air alarms in the city of Kyiv, warning about an attack by air on Kyiv, by Russia, is in progress right now! -Amazing, simply amazing!

@whiskybravo, Thank you for your supplementary comments, those paired with the content of your original post now makes sense to me. I think Brussels is thinking it's unsolvable in the short term, but is not expressing it at the moment. - - - o 0 o - - - Norway is a member of NATO, but not a member of EU [very rich, for obvious reasons Norway wont participate and contribute to the existing redistribution mess and madness going on inside EU, socialist style [i.e. related to agriculture]], UK left EU in 2016, but is a material NATO member, Turkey is a member of NATO, but not a member of EU, Hungary is a member of NATO, and as well of EU, but have been blocking EU decisions against Russia in some cases lately, USA's position as leading NATO member is a given, so European NATO members need find suiting face and attitude towards POTUS, to stay in good standing at POTUS, or NATO as institution gets frozen and crippled related to this situation, because this war is really an European issue, and for that reason a valid argument from both POTUS and from CofB&F members here ['this is not a war for the US, this is an European war' [about american money and budgets, and troops engaged in a war in Europe, etc.] Thus, the unformal group of countries called 'the willings' -'the coalition of the countries willing to support Ukraine in the war against Russia' has gradually formed, as another celestial body appearing out of gravity inside some startdust. Short term, for a period, these countries need support from USA, by USA trading arms etc. with those European countries, by those countries paying USA for those goods, to give them to Ukraine, for application in the war against Ukraine. I personally really can't see any other way forward from here, but that is certainly not a sure thing. As an European citizen, thinking it through and phrasing it here, actually makes me feel very embarrassed. Peace dividend cashed in, and all that, based on trust in Putin. Absolutely naive. So, it's imperative that POTUS, during the meetings later today in Washington, does not end up feeling insulted in any way, no matter what, or the whole thing goes into deadlock, causing the war just continues. Let's see and hear what happens. I actually acknowledge POTUS giving it a try, while I still partly question POTUS' personal motive. - - - o 0 o - - - So, It's quite complicated, actually. - - - o 0 o - - - As a note, let me just mention Denmark holds the Presidency of the Council of the European Union [by now] the second half of 2025, represented by our prime minister Mette Frederiksen, but who is participating later today representing EU? Ursula Von der Leyen. I'm personally sure Mette Frederiksen has tried to become member of the group going to Washington today. Equally sure I am, that she has been presented with the argument : 'Greenland' and 'nasty woman', remember?! - It's just a no-go, because you and POTUS are just to each other, what a red cloth is to a furious bull in some arena in Spain.'

You appear mentally locked on, that an agreement with Russia about Ukraine will create permanent peace. On this side of the Atlantic pond it is gradually becomming the prevailing sentiment and judgement, that this assumption is unrealistic, unsustainable and perhaps even naive, because Putin and Russia can't be trusted. The Urainian people has almost lost any trust and developed PTSD, on : Wikipedia : Budapest Memorandum - and the Ukrianian people just experienced the US President and the Russian meeting in Alaska 'to fix 'the Ukrainian situation'' for them.

You got it wrong, because you don't get the full picture. You have to look up and listen to, what happened in Brussels today, Sunday. Words caught on video by Vlodomyr Zelenskij and Ursula von der Leyen. Absolutely unpredictable, what now will happen in Washington tomorrow Monday, Putin Monday gets nothing of what he in Alaska tried to convice POTUS to 'sell' to Zelenskyj, and rest of Europe. [To me personally, all good]. War just continues. My best guess is POTUS is hit publicly by a cerebral hemorrhage [brain fart] again. [lol - At least a Monday to look forward to. ]

Awesome! : https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115044736191307422 : Phsysically and personally, by hand - delivered to Putin, under meeting yesterday, by FLOTUS' husband :

This is a void question. It's none of others business or concern. That should be determined by referendums in such suitable separated zones among the people living in Donbas, nobody else. - - - o 0 o - - - Not that far from Ukraine, but a now long time ago, actually 105 years, in 1920, such process with binding effect for all involved, was carried out among people in an area affected of eternal nationality tensions and arguing [i.e. barn ports on farms weren't painted in the same colour as all other wooden stuff on a farm, they were painted as either the Danish flag or the German flag, dual function as both barn port and marketing biilboard for owners nationality attitude , just to tease the neighbour every day! ], and the border between Germany and Denmark was actually moved a bit to the south, making Denmark larger, and Germany smaller, a part of NordSchleswig added to Denmark. There are still people living in Denmark with a German mindset north of the border, and people living in Germany with a Danish mindset, but all accepted, meaning 'shut up, or move your own a** to the other side!'. Today they all live basically in peacefull co-existence, and all social associacitons based on national mindset are gradually disappering, for yonger generations won't deal with or listen such old and irrelevant *BS* from a past far away. -And they all speak weird there, by the way! 105 years ago!, in 1920!, and now we are in 2025, where two guys meeting behind closed doors at a US military base in Alaska, both personally pursuing more less hidden agendas for prizes, 'deals', victories, success stories and more power, use these people as bargaining chips in a game to outsmart each other, both absolutely untrustworthy, and they both don't really care about these people. - - - o 0 o - - - What do you think Ukrainian people think and feel about that? -All Ukrainians!, that is. It must be clear to everyone, that Ukrainians aren't in any way behaving and thinking like the average Russian Mr. & Mrs. Invanov.

@Sweet, The is much more to it than that. No European political leader of own right mind actually believes that Putin actually will stop there.

Just to stir the pot a bit [ , j/k ] : Reuters [August 14th 2025] : Trump told Norwegian minister he wants Nobel Prize, newspaper says. - - - o 0 o - - - Politico - News - Politics [August 14th 2025] : Trump cold-called Norwegian minister to ask about Nobel Peace Prize Subtitle : American president angles for top diplomatic award while world watches his summit with Russian leader Vladimir Putin. - - - o 0 o - - - Related to my 'stir the pot' and 'j/k' above : Danish : "Den der kun tager sjov for sjov og alvor kun alvorligt han har faktisk fattet begge dele lige dårligt!" [<- In Danish, it at rhymes], -Piet Hein, a Gruk, English : "He who only takes jokes for fun and seriousness only seriously has actually understood both equally badly!", - Piet Hein, a Grook. - - - o 0 o - - - It's not that long ago, I made a post here on CoB&F subtle elaborating about the differencies between medals and orders among decorations.

Mike [ @cubsfan ], That above post of yours made me chuckle a bit, however, and as always, there are nuances, shades and details to everything. I'll try to level things out a bit in a post here in this topic tomorrow, my local time. I think it could perhaps be useful for all of us dissecting things a bit more, to perhaps provide a more nuanced view at certain things related to it. Let me just say here that I think to a certain extent you may be right. But things here in Europe related to it are actually by now changing at warp speed, etc.

Photo taken before meeting start [please focus on the faces] [source tv2.dk] : Photo after meeting end [Ps face 'Heh!' [tiny smile?], Ts face 'Meeh ...' [<- ?]]

Just released the leach on Google Lens to let it attack the photo , and got this [ ] : AI Overview The image shows a plane from the Russian state aircraft fleet "Rossiya" (РОССИЯ), which transports officials and the president [source: text on the image]. The plane is part of the Special Flight Detachment "Rossiya", which is responsible for transporting the Russian president and other high-ranking officials. The name "Rossiya" (РОССИЯ) is the Russian word for "Russia". The plane in the image appears to be an Il-96-300PU, a special version of the Il-96 aircraft designed for presidential use. These planes are equipped with advanced communication equipment and security measures. - - - o 0 o - - - -At first sight I thought the red 'signs' on the fuselage were some kind of KGB-code... [hush-hush, only for those with need to known basis!]

European Counsel [August 16th 2025 11:33] : Statement by President Macron, Prime Minister Meloni, Chancellor Merz, Prime Minister Starmer, President Stubb, Prime Minister Tusk, President Costa, President von der Leyen.

- - - o 0 o - - - -From substance to show the things go! - - - o 0 o - - - Peace negotiations without a ceasefire? - It's not even funny!

What? - After thinking carefully about it, I can't top that, -I've considered bp and pulse measurements, check of breath, mouth-to-mouth ER massage, salt-water drop, awakening injections of steriods, cortison, adrenal cortex hormone, eventually combined with the application of an AES to get the stone going again, MR-scans, CT-scans, eventually just drowning the stone, to see if any reaction at all. [likely, in that case, water best, some fluid acid not even the second best idea]. - - - o 0 o - - - I remember a post a few years ago, somebody asked @Xerxes [I'm sure it was @Xerxes], Q: 'Why did you buy that?'. @Xerxes' A: 'I need it for for investment style diversification purposes'. Personally, it hit me like getting hit by a hammer. To not totally freeze, exposure towards 'different stuff' is somehow needed, to avoid [escape] a 'freeze', that actually represents 'a style concentration'. That certainly makes sense, at least to me, personally.

Thank you, @Dalal.Holdings, That's actually to me not just a fair game supplementary comment, but also one, that I personally certainly can relate to, to me as a fact. So, peace again. And I'm personally by now totally out of the Bolloré Galaxy, after selling a quite small BOL.PA position, almost tracker position, not so long ago, alone for reason I needed some cash from a taxable account to transfer and inject into a tax deferred account - in retirement - so I'm basically, exstingushing any income tax withheld on my public pension income, therebyby deferring it. Why? The deduction in my taxable income by doing so is not 100 per cent, it's actually 120%, because Danish seniors are by such tax rule presented with a rule five years before the agelimit of public retirement, creating an incentive for saving! - And the 187 idiots elected to the Danish parlament had forgotten to put an by age expiry date to that!, so why just not continue into retirement if you a have the means to do so? And while reinstesting those those funds into tax deferred, they diden't end in up being reinvested the Bolloré Galaxy. And I actually think, I was the original topic starter here on CofB&F for ODET.PA. *shrug* I think what I'm actually weaving about here is, [at least] in most cases, NAV analysis as part of SOTP valuation for stuff like this doesen't, or may, eventually, and thereby actually and eventually not work. The only thing that always work, is cash flow generation present, actual, observable, identifiable, combined with intelligent capital allocation. NAV SOTP analysis to me just sux, as a mean and basis to get forward, at least it's not in any way water tight, or the sure path to investment success.

@Dalal.Holdings, Are you even informed and aware, and thereby have thought about the behavior you just practiced in this topic, implies and causes for other CofB&F members, with 'the Corner' set up like I personally have, by posting something, and then quickly deleting your post after that?: Below I'll show you : To me personally, it's e-mail spamming. The fact that you deleted it immedially, if not proves, then at least supports it is so. So to me, you have been practicing CofB&F bad form here, I still suppose unintentional. 'The Corner' is - at least partly, working as chess board by the rules of Chess : Don't let go of your fingers on a Chess piece at a move, untill your decision is really final. Feature 'Edit' naturally always still works, feature 'Delete' too, but not perfectly.