ashish82 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Super awesome! Thanks very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizaro86 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Thank you very much for this! I'm up to 2006, and just starting to hear about how subprime just isn't cheap enough to be interesting, and is probably a bubble. Exciting stuff. Interesting to me how much their strategies varied over time. At the beginning they benefitted significantly from reorganizing/debt exchange, which gave them a huge increase in book value right of the bat. In the 80s they participated in LBOs, owned securities, bought manufacturing businesses/insurance, and took greenmail. In the 90s they went big into distressed insurance and sold out for huge gains, and did subprime auto loans, which they stopped doing well before the crash as they felt they weren't getting fully compensated for risk. In the 00s there were some big commodity investments. It seems to me they caught the cycle in each decade. They didn't seem to focus on macro, just cheap businesses. Very inspirational, I'd be very interested in seeing what take-aways others have from this great resource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncapital Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 It's interesting as a historic document, but I don't feel that Leucadia today has any resemblance to these events. It's under new management and looks quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizaro86 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 It's interesting as a historic document, but I don't feel that Leucadia today has any resemblance to these events. It's under new management and looks quite different. Certainly, I wasn't appreciating it for insight into Leucadia, rather looking for strategies and thought processes that have been effective in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenville Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 The letters are a great compilation and an excellent read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncapital Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 What I find striking is their evolution. The first 5-10 years you couldn't tell what was happening. It looked like a pretty cut and dry financial company. It really hit home the message that you have to really know the management in these situations and what it is they are doing. It didn't seem at all clear, only later did the letters become more "folksy" like Buffett's letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizaro86 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 What I find striking is their evolution. The first 5-10 years you couldn't tell what was happening. It looked like a pretty cut and dry financial company. It really hit home the message that you have to really know the management in these situations and what it is they are doing. It didn't seem at all clear, only later did the letters become more "folksy" like Buffett's letters. Yeah, I probably wouldn't have invested in them in the early 80s even if I'd been investing then. The "we're putting money into LBOs run by our old buddy the principal of the Jordan Company and not disclosing any of the terms or deals" is something I would have found pretty off-putting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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