Guest davidwoo Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I recently switched to bing as my search engine on all my devices. Other than maps, I find bing to be more relevant. DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfinger Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I recently switched to bing as my search engine on all my devices. Other than maps, I find bing to be more relevant. DW Bingo, you are not alone! ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer16 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 MSFT doing what it does best copy and make better. Packer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfinger Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 MSFT doing what it does best copy and make better. Packer BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbitisrich Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 MSFT doing what it does best copy and make better. Packer BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;) :D This is getting serious. Google core U.S. search share only rose by 0.1% to 65.5% in May. Can they hold off the Bing onslaught?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 MSFT doing what it does best copy and make better. Packer What has Microsoft copied and made better in the past 10 years? Honest question. I can't think of anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanMaestro Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 What has Microsoft copied and made better in the past 10 years? Honest question. I can't think of anything... PlayStation/Xbox or at least that is what I've heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfinger Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I'm not sure about the microsoft making things better comment, but Bing has passed Google in search relevance in my opinion I think making better meant: integration and milking. Dos, Windows, Excel, Word, Outlook, IE, SQLServer, XBbox, Sharepoint and many many other products are examples of that. One last note: Why Balmer should go. Over the past 5 years Balmer has had a habit of introducing a product and then trying to sell it to you by mentioning how much his kid loves it. First, that's lame, but more important, what evidence is there that his kid has a good track record of predicting hot selling products. When a CEO does this, especially in consumer tech, it means he is clueless. Frankly I would stay away from that kind of thinking (even though he may be replaced tomorrow which I doubt). I know everybody says Balmer is a dumb ass, Einhorn included and by the way I heard the same about Bill Gates from lots people in the past too. I have heard Balmer talk on other occasions and it was obvious he was thinking long term in many areas of his business. For now MSFT earnings have tripled in 10 years and the strongest pipeline ever is coming to market. Lots of investments and moves will get much clearer within the next 2 to 3 years at Microsoft. Convergence possibilities are very impressive if you really thing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodstove Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 That Brafton quote "last week" is from a May 10th article date. But the point is well taken about Bing positioning. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 XBOX is probably right, though that's partly because SONY has been going downhill for a long time and there's no competitor of the caliber of GOOG of AAPL in that field. But to me Bing is a distant second and my experience has been that the quality of results is poorer than with Google (not to mention that it's slower and has fewer features). I also think it looks bad that they've been caught copying results from Google (despite denying it): http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses-google-search.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vish_ram Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 bing sucks big time I've tried putting the same search word in both bing and google and got better results in google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest misterstockwell Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 bing sucks big time I've tried putting the same search word in both bing and google and got better results in google I prefer Bing as well. Google is getting to be more and more a conduit for spoofers to sell you products. You can get pages of fake websites that funnel you to Amazon or elsewhere. It's a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest misterstockwell Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 XBOX is probably right, though that's partly because SONY has been going downhill for a long time and there's no competitor of the caliber of GOOG of AAPL in that field. Hahahaha. Yes, there is nothing good about Xbox/Kinect. It is only winning by default since AAPL isn't in the game. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That's a perfect example of the bias out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hahahaha. Yes, there is nothing good about Xbox/Kinect. It is only winning by default since AAPL isn't in the game. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That's a perfect example of the bias out there. That's not what I said. XBOX is quite good, but SONY also dropped the ball somewhat in the same period, so the comparison between XBOX and Playstation isn't the same as Google Search and Bing, because Google isn't going the way of Sony right now. When your competitors shoot themselves in the foot, that has to be taken into account in the calculations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2S Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hahahaha. Yes, there is nothing good about Xbox/Kinect. It is only winning by default since AAPL isn't in the game. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That's a perfect example of the bias out there. That's not what I said. XBOX is quite good, but SONY also dropped the ball somewhat in the same period, so the comparison between XBOX and Playstation isn't the same as Google Search and Bing, because Google isn't going the way of Sony right now. When your competitors shoot themselves in the foot, that has to be taken into account in the calculations... 20/20 hindsight and all, not many people were calling out Sony for "dropping the ball" or "shooting themselves in the foot" until the first details of the personal information leak surfaced a month or two ago... And XBox's market share gain had started years prior. By the time the hacking scandal occurred, XBox 360 already outsold PS3 in the US by almost 50%. As for the Q on a Microsoft's buy-and-build success over the last 10 years... Microsoft Dynamics. Or you can just take a glance over the Short Salesforce thread Sanjeev started a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormR Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hahahaha. Yes, there is nothing good about Xbox/Kinect. It is only winning by default since AAPL isn't in the game. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That's a perfect example of the bias out there. :o AAPL is, at very best, ok for casual gamers (a growing and big market to be sure). Been that way for, well, probably a couple of decades. I don't see it changing much soon. I find the AAPL worship thing a little odd. It wasn't that long ago that the stock was trading at cash and they could do nothing right. (I made good money on it too. :) ) Speaking of which, why the frack does AAPL need $30B of cash? It's dividend time ... To the point of the thread, I use both bing & google. Google more often tho. Bing has improved, from a low level, and google seems to have declined a bit. I do notice that google is trying really hard to drum up business. It seems that I get a gazzilion offers to advertise via google in the mail/magazines/etc. It's almost as bad as the old AOL days with their CDs. Not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarley Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 20/20 hindsight and all, not many people were calling out Sony for "dropping the ball" or "shooting themselves in the foot" until the first details of the personal information leak surfaced a month or two ago... And XBox's market share gain had started years prior. By the time the hacking scandal occurred, XBox 360 already outsold PS3 in the US by almost 50%. People most certainly called Sony out for the PS3 launch. Despite great technical specs, the game selection was awful and the price-point was way too high. The Xbox360 and wii capitalized with better games and much more affordable systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEast Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I too find myself using Bing more. Maybe its the pretty pictures. Bing maps are a different story though. Cheers JEast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfinger Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hahahaha. Yes, there is nothing good about Xbox/Kinect. It is only winning by default since AAPL isn't in the game. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That's a perfect example of the bias out there. That's not what I said. XBOX is quite good, but SONY also dropped the ball somewhat in the same period, so the comparison between XBOX and Playstation isn't the same as Google Search and Bing, because Google isn't going the way of Sony right now. When your competitors shoot themselves in the foot, that has to be taken into account in the calculations... XBox is where Microsoft intends to conquer the home entertainment business and more (Web TV is not being used by people who bought it). Beyond the Skype + Comcast deal, they are now talking of introducing interactive advertising in games and other programs running on XBox (and Microsoft doesn't know how to innovate)! Kinect is the fastest selling device in history. People who own other consoles (PS3, Wii) are buying XBox. Young people learn about Microsoft through the XBox and they do not come with former generations' hatred for this company. Kinect UI concepts are going to be made available in SDKs and subsequent versions of Windows OS. That along with the PC's natural design evolutions (tablet like, ultra thin, ultra powerful, access to all common devices, etc...) will make Windows machines super competitive especially with advanced COMM services on them. Bing, Speech Recognition and other technologies of that type are aggregated horizontally to increase the offering. ETC... Microsoft is competing hard these days and there will be more clarity when the current pipeline is deployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest valueInv Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I switched to Bing a while back. I find it a bit better than Google. There are some areas where Google still has the lead such as when searching for technical stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargainman Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 XBox is where Microsoft intends to conquer the home entertainment business and more (Web TV is not being used by people who bought it). Beyond the Skype + Comcast deal, they are now talking of introducing interactive advertising in games and other programs running on XBox (and Microsoft doesn't know how to innovate)! Kinect is the fastest selling device in history. People who own other consoles (PS3, Wii) are buying XBox. Young people learn about Microsoft through the XBox and they do not come with former generations' hatred for this company. Kinect UI concepts are going to be made available in SDKs and subsequent versions of Windows OS. That along with the PC's natural design evolutions (tablet like, ultra thin, ultra powerful, access to all common devices, etc...) will make Windows machines super competitive especially with advanced COMM services on them. Bing, Speech Recognition and other technologies of that type are aggregated horizontally to increase the offering. ETC... Microsoft is competing hard these days and there will be more clarity when the current pipeline is deployed. Hmm.. Here is a thought, this seems to be the only major area other than Windows where MSFT is winning the consumer arena. It also seems to be the only place where they control the ecosystem from software to hardware no? How tight are their marketplace standards, does anyone know? Is it a closed system the way most consoles are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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