DegenerateGambler Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The AI Trade got obliterated the last month, with leading names down a ton. I wouldn't really call this a buying opportunity but it seems like the crash of the internet bubble in 2000 in the early stages. A lot of these names still trade at >20 times sales and still has ways to go down. The question is is this just a pullback or is the AI trade effectively "over"?
Gregmal Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago When you look at what was driving the rally, who was driving it, and then the why and how, it all kinda lines up with a top. Qualitatively and gut feel wise too, I think Ive got it right. Q2 very much felt like Q1 2021 when the Covid beneficiaries and hyped SPAC stuff just began crumbling after it exhausted the last of time dumb money. And just the same as then, the “you can’t short this market” refrains were consensus whenever any sort of bearish sentiment arose.
brobro777 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I don't know about other names but just looking at da action, Micron seems to be headed straight to $600, no bounce I got no position in MU so whatever man but that's what it feels like for the memory names - straight down, no bounce
Sinbius Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, DegenerateGambler said: The AI Trade got obliterated the last month, with leading names down a ton. I wouldn't really call this a buying opportunity but it seems like the crash of the internet bubble in 2000 in the early stages. A lot of these names still trade at >20 times sales and still has ways to go down. The question is is this just a pullback or is the AI trade effectively "over"? Well...at least you are coherent with your nickname...
DegenerateGambler Posted 24 minutes ago Author Posted 24 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Gregmal said: When you look at what was driving the rally, who was driving it, and then the why and how, it all kinda lines up with a top. Qualitatively and gut feel wise too, I think Ive got it right. Q2 very much felt like Q1 2021 when the Covid beneficiaries and hyped SPAC stuff just began crumbling after it exhausted the last of time dumb money. And just the same as then, the “you can’t short this market” refrains were consensus whenever any sort of bearish sentiment arose. yeah i don't see the Mag7 hyperscalers to keep increasing capex 30% per year for the next 5 years, they would need to start seeing return on their capital. So the market is forward looking and started to sell these AI names that were trading at hundreds of times sales knowing capex won't go up forever.
DegenerateGambler Posted 22 minutes ago Author Posted 22 minutes ago 1 hour ago, brobro777 said: I don't know about other names but just looking at da action, Micron seems to be headed straight to $600, no bounce I got no position in MU so whatever man but that's what it feels like for the memory names - straight down, no bounce memory is still probably cyclical so a low PE might signal the cycle top. I would agree MU could tank a lot more here.
Gregmal Posted 5 minutes ago Posted 5 minutes ago (edited) I mean I think the most awe inspiring aspect of this is that you can look back, 3-5 years and just chart "AI spend". Clearly, 2026 is a massive, massive FOMO binge, and 2027 likely will be too. Maybe even 28 as well. But in terms of a total capital expenditure cycle, what is insane and jaw dropping is seeing investors gamblers and such, citing what is clearly within an earshot of whatever one would call "peak", especially for crappy cyclical commodity stuff like chips/memory, and then taking THOSE numbers, and extrapolating valuations based on historic multiples. In what universe has it ever been a good idea to invest like that? "Ah, only 15x 2026 numbers"...like WTF? You expect 15 years of this sort of mania? Edited 5 minutes ago by Gregmal
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