25% tariffs on Canadian and Mexican imports.

[cwericb]

1 hour ago, RichardGibbons said:

 

Yep, I think you're largely right. Canada has plenty of uranium, and it feels like it's about time for Canada to build a nuclear arsenal. Just to protect our national interest of course, since Trump's made it clear that he doesn't really see any other countries as allies or worth defending..

 

Even better, it would increase Canada's military budget, just as Trump wants, making NATO far stronger.

 

Agreed. It is far past time that our government in Ottawa grew up and realized that we have a responsibility to maintain a military strong enough to protect our sovereignty. The simplest way to accomplish that is through nuclear weapons, a deterrent to anyone considering invading this country, no matter if that invasion came from the North, West, East or - even the South.

 

 

[gary17]

I'm not familiar with Canadian laws but can the Liberal government actually stop oil / electricity etc from being sent to the USA? Or all they can do is implement some sort of export tax , thus indirectly forcing those to be dialed back? 

 

It's really too bad they shot themselves in the foot - we can't send oil and other resources to Asia or Europe.  

[SharperDingaan]

Federal law only prevails at the national border (ie: an export out of Canada); whereas everywhere within a province. or between provinces, it is a provincial jurisdiction. A complication; is that oil/gas produced in Alberta, but sold at BC tide-water, is a matter between BC/Ottawa (where it leaves Canada) and not Alberta/Ottawa (where it is produced in Canada). Ottawa can impose a tax; but not actually stop the flow, unless the province with the egress also agrees to it.

 

The Albertan premier deserves huge kudos for NOT caving to the Team Canada pressure. The straight-forward solution is a (tariff offsetting) federal export tax on US bound oil/gas, plus the proceeds from a modified carbon tax, funding new pipe going east, west, and north under a guarantee from the rest of Canada. Confederation type guarantee; no bull-shit, no veto's, no hostage taking via environmental assessments, etc, etc. The country building of national pipe, being no different to the country building of a CP/CN rail, the Trans-Canada Highway, or an Air Canada, etc.

 

Inter-provincial trade barriers are by far, the worst trade impediments Canada has; hence it's a tough nut to crack, you need hard ass premiers, and Canada first. No holds barred blunt conversation taking place behind the barn. As in most family discussions, they're not that far apart, but it's very much play nice, or cave to the enemy (Trump). Your choice.

 

SD

 

        

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[gary17]

4 hours ago, SharperDingaan said:

Federal law only prevails at the national border (ie: an export out of Canada); whereas everywhere within a province. or between provinces, it is a provincial jurisdiction. A complication; is that oil/gas produced in Alberta, but sold at BC tide-water, is a matter between BC/Ottawa (where it leaves Canada) and not Alberta/Ottawa (where it is produced in Canada). Ottawa can impose a tax; but not actually stop the flow, unless the province with the egress also agrees to it.

 

The Albertan premier deserves huge kudos for NOT caving to the Team Canada pressure. The straight-forward solution is a (tariff offsetting) federal export tax on US bound oil/gas, plus the proceeds from a modified carbon tax, funding new pipe going east, west, and north under a guarantee from the rest of Canada. Confederation type guarantee; no bull-shit, no veto's, no hostage taking via environmental assessments, etc, etc. The country building of national pipe, being no different to the country building of a CP/CN rail, the Trans-Canada Highway, or an Air Canada, etc.

 

Inter-provincial trade barriers are by far, the worst trade impediments Canada has; hence it's a tough nut to crack, you need hard ass premiers, and Canada first, no holds barred blunt conversation taking place behind the barn. As in most family discussions, they're not that far apart, but it's very much play nice, or cave to the enemy (Trump). Your choice.

 

SD

 

        

Thanks SD - always insightful.
I was recently reminded too about the inter-provincial barriers being very significant and perhaps removing those could help Canada offset the impacts it might feel from the barrier that US is about to impose. 

[SharperDingaan]

Some added detail. It's hardly surprising that Alberta is so pissed; and frankly, good on them  ...   

Per another board: https://www.investorvillage.com/groups.asp?mb=19168&mn=601428&pt=msg&mid=25349177

 

Comments on Danielle Smith and "Team Canada"- An Alberta Viewpoint.  

I may no longer be in politics, but some issues are too important to stay silent on. Danielle Smith is taking a strong stand against Ottawa’s reckless proposal to ban Alberta’s energy exports. I strongly support her efforts, and I hope you will too.   For years, Alberta has been let down by Ottawa and by provinces that put up roadblocks to getting our resources to market. Now, federal politicians are floating the idea of banning Alberta’s energy exports entirely. Danielle has been clear: Alberta will not stand for policies that threaten our economy and livelihoods.   Some suggest we need a “Team Canada” approach. That idea might carry more weight if there had ever been a Team Canada working to support Alberta in the past. Unfortunately, history tells a very different story: Where was “Team Canada” when Northern Gateway was vetoed in 2016, losing us 525,000 barrels per day in export capacity? Instead of addressing the court’s requirements for Indigenous consultation, the federal government killed the project outright and banned tankers on the northwest coast. Where was “Team Canada” when Energy East was cancelled in 2017? Quebec and Ontario imposed unnecessary, duplicative reviews, creating endless regulatory uncertainty. Ottawa offered no support, and the project was lost, along with the chance to ship 1 million barrels per day to the East Coast. Where was “Team Canada” when provinces like British Columbia blocked pipelines? B.C. imposed unconstitutional conditions on Trans Mountain, which the courts struck down in 2019. Before that, in 2018, they tried to restrict diluted bitumen shipments, threatening Alberta’s economy and delaying progress. And where is “Team Canada” now? Ottawa has imposed Bill C-69, the “No More Pipelines” Act, and an unconstitutional production cap. They’re introducing electricity regulations that harm Alberta’s competitiveness and passing laws like Bill C-59 that silence the voices supporting Alberta’s energy. So forgive Albertans if we’re skeptical of a federal “Team Canada” approach that seems designed to landlock our resources and harm our economy. Maybe if there had been real support in the past, we wouldn’t be in this position now. Danielle Smith is fighting to protect Alberta’s oil and gas industry from Ottawa’s latest reckless idea—an export ban on Alberta energy. She’s fighting for your jobs, your community, and Alberta’s future.   This is about defending Alberta’s place in Canada and ensuring we have the freedom to develop our resources, create jobs, and grow our economy. Sincerely, Hon. Sonya Savage, KC Former Minister of Energy   SD

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