glider3834 Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) I thought this topic deserves to have its own thread. In 2020 AR shareholder letter, Prem wrote Prem believes insurance subs are worth much more than their carrying value of $15bil or $572 per share at 31 Dec-20. Here is the breakdown at 31 Dec-20 I have in previous posts put up a chart showing P/BV multiples for 15 of Fairfax's insurance peers. The median multiple was 1.3x shareholders' equity & I think thats reasonable to use on the basis Fairfax's CR (excl Covid) over last 3 years is close to peer median & Fairfax's NPW growth rate is at higher end of its peers. Fairfax doesn't break out by reporting segment its insurance subs carrying value at 30 Jun-21 - there are moving parts here such as divs to the holdco. Lets just assume 10% growth in shareholders equity to 30 Jun-21. I am then adding the $1.8 bil revaluation of Digit (Jul-21) that is subject to approvals expected Q4-21 which is Fairfax's share of Digit. 1. Estimate Carrying value at 30 Jun-21 = $15 bil x 1.1 = $16.5 billion 2. Apply 1.3x multiple to estimate market value of insur & reinsu subs = $16.5 bil x 1.3 = $21.45 billion 3. Add Fairfax's share of Digit revaluation = $1.8 bil Estimate Market value (attributable to Fairfax equity holders) at 30 Jun-21 = 21.45 bil + $1.8 bil = $23.25 bil Estimate Carrying value (attributable to Fairfax equity holders) at 30 Jun-21 = $16.5 billion Estimate excess fair value over carry value (excluding Digit revaluation) = $6.75 billion ( or $260 per share pre-tax based on 26 mil shares outstanding) So Prem believes the insurance subs are worth a lot more than their carrying value (or book value). I am estimating based on peer median multiples a number of around $6.75 billion. What does everyone else think? (Edit note I am assuming the 16.5 bil carrying value does not include the Digit revaluation. If we include the Digit revaluation as if it happened at 30 Jun-21, then you could add $1.8 bil to carrying value to get $18.3 bil , then subtracting this from market value estimate = $4.95 bil excess of fair value over carrying value which will make more sense if you read my post below where I try & tie these numbers back to book value per share) Edited November 3, 2021 by glider3834
glider3834 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, glider3834 said: I thought this topic deserves to have its own thread. In 2020 AR shareholder letter, Prem wrote Prem believes insurance subs are worth much more than their carrying value of $15bil or $572 per share at 31 Dec-20. Here is the breakdown at 31 Dec-20 I have in previous posts put up a chart showing P/BV multiples for 15 of Fairfax's insurance peers. The median multiple was 1.3x shareholders' equity & I think thats reasonable to use on the basis Fairfax's CR (excl Covid) over last 3 years is close to peer median & Fairfax's NPW growth rate is at higher end of its peers. Fairfax doesn't break out by reporting segment its insurance subs carrying value at 30 Jun-21 - there are moving parts here such as divs to the holdco. Lets just assume 10% growth in shareholders equity to 30 Jun-21. I am then adding the $1.8 bil revaluation of Digit (Jul-21) that is subject to approvals expected Q4-21 which is Fairfax's share of Digit. 1. Estimate Carrying value at 30 Jun-21 = $15 bil x 1.1 = $16.5 billion 2. Apply 1.3x multiple to estimate market value of insur & reinsu subs = $16.5 bil x 1.3 = $21.45 billion 3. Add Fairfax's share of Digit revaluation = $1.8 bil Estimate Market value (attributable to Fairfax equity holders) at 30 Jun-21 = 21.45 bil + $1.8 bil = $23.25 bil Estimate Carrying value (attributable to Fairfax equity holders) at 30 Jun-21= $16.5 billion Estimate excess fair value over carry value = $6.75 billion ( or $260 per share pre-tax based on 26 mil shares outstanding) So Prem believes the insurance subs are worth a lot more than their carrying value (or book value). I am estimating based on peer median multiples a number of around $6.75 billion. What does everyone else think? Going back to looking at the above in terms of Fairfax's book value per share (BVPS) BVPS (adjusted for Eurolife consol etc) was $545 at 30 Jun-21 Add estimated $46 net gain on Digit (approval expected Q4) BVPS = $591 (incl Digit net gain on revaluation) Estimated CV at 30 Jun-21 of Insur/Reinsur subs (excl Digit revaluation) = $16.5 bil (my estimate of 10% increase in shareholder equity from 31 Dec-20 - see above post) Apply x 1.3 multiple = 21.45 bil Subtract Estimated CV at 30 Jun-21 of $16.5 bil Excess FV over CV estimate = $4.95 bil (or $190 per share pre-tax) Subtract tax at 18% estimate or $0.9 bil Excess FV over CV estimate (excl Digit revaluation) = $4.05 bil (or $156 per share after tax) So if the insurance/reinsurance subs were all sold - estimated BVPS would increase to US$591 + $156 = US$747 (or US$771 adjusted BVPS for excess of FV over CV of non-insurance subs of around US$24 after tax at 30 Jun-21) I am not suggesting we should value Fairfax on the basis that all their insurance subsidiaries are going to be sold, but it further underlines I think the replacement value of the insurance subs using a market based multiple. Another way to think about it, if Fairfax wanted to start from scratch & acquire the whole business again paying market values - I am estimating they would need to spend US$771 per share (using adjusted BVPS) & that compares pretty favourably to share price of US$404. Edited November 3, 2021 by glider3834
StubbleJumper Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, glider3834 said: Another way to think about it, if Fairfax wanted to start from scratch & acquire the whole business again paying market values - I am estimating they would need to spend US$771 per share (using adjusted BVPS) & that compares pretty favourably to share price of US$404. Yep, at the moment, the market seems to hold the view that Fairfax is worth more dead than alive. This too shall pass. SJ
modiva Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 17 hours ago, StubbleJumper said: 18 hours ago, glider3834 said: Another way to think about it, if Fairfax wanted to start from scratch & acquire the whole business again paying market values - I am estimating they would need to spend US$771 per share (using adjusted BVPS) & that compares pretty favourably to share price of US$404. Expand Yep, at the moment, the market seems to hold the view that Fairfax is worth more dead than alive. This too shall pass. +1. The market is too fearful of FFH. And too exuberant on others.
StubbleJumper Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) By the way, I ripped off Prem when I used the "more dead than alive" comment. That's what he wrote in the 2000 annual letter.... There's nothing new under the sun. [EDIT: Oops, now I've just ripped off Ecclesiastes. I should be better at attribution!] SJ Edited November 3, 2021 by StubbleJumper
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