matjone Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I know we have some boxing fans here, who are you picking? My take is Mayweather is in another class than everyone else and Pacquiao is going to do a lot of swinging and missing and lose by decision. Of course, as Roger Mayweather says, I don't know shit about boxing.
berkshire101 Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I usually root for the underdog so I'm rooting for PacMan
OracleofCarolina Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 They both will win no matter what since each of them will probably make at least $100 million.
Pauly Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Floyd Mayweather is a despicable human being so I hope he loses, but it looks like Manny is past his prime and Floyd is unbeatable. Still, Go Manny!
Travis Wiedower Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Floyd Mayweather is a despicable human being so I hope he loses, but it looks like Manny is past his prime and Floyd is unbeatable. Still, Go Manny! Pretty much sums it up.
EdWatchesBoxing Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Expect Mayweather to win, but I'm hoping Pacquiao does. I'm getting excited. Oh and just in case you haven't seen it yet: https://youtu.be/TMi-lTnUmBg
SpecOps Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 I'm not a huge boxing fan but I've been waiting for this fight for about 5 years, just a shame they aren't both in their prime. I'm rooting for Pacquiao
Max Alpha Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Mayweather should be too good and outpoint Manny in a competitive fight. Floyd is closer to his prime and would have been a huge task at any point. Will be interesting to see what gameplan Roach has concocted for Manny. Most success against Floyd has come from pure volume of punches because no one in this generation has had the tools to outscore him punch for punch.
matjone Posted April 27, 2015 Author Posted April 27, 2015 I was looking at the lines on this fight. The line on Pacquiao winning by KO,TKO, or DQ was only 4-1. I figured more like 20-1 or maybe worse. Mayweather has hardly ever been hurt. In fact I think Mayweather is more likely to catch Pacquiao with something and knock him out. I thought about betting on this fight, but I've seen too much fishy stuff happen in boxing.
AzCactus Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Like most others rooting for Pacquiao, but think Mayweather will win.
petey2720 Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Thought this was interesting: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/114687102/evander-holyfield-thinks-pacquiao-will-defeat-mayw_3
Yours Truly Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Thought this was interesting: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/114687102/evander-holyfield-thinks-pacquiao-will-defeat-mayw_3 Even Delahoya thinks Pacman is going to take it. This will be an interesting one for sure!
randomep Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 This is a value investing blog. So who do you think would be a better value investor?
Travis Wiedower Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 This is a value investing blog. So who do you think would be a better value investor? Not Manny: "Despite earning nearly $200 million during his brilliant career, Pacquiao always hemorrhaged money. Gary Andrew Poole's 2010 biography, "Pacman," laid out how Pacquiao's contracts were split: After his manager's took their 20-percent cut, his trainer Freddie Roach took 10 percent, strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza shaved off a few more points. There were also training camp expenses, tax bills in the U.S. and the Philippines, and his boundless, ever-growing entourage, all guzzling funds. According to a 2009 New York Times article by Greg Bishop, "Team Pacquiao has perfected the art of dysfunction. The entourage consists of trainers, assistants to the trainers, advisers, assistants to the advisers, cooks, dishwashers, car washers, publicists, gofers and security." For each fight, Pacquiao also spent hundreds of thousands of dollars flying his entourage to Las Vegas, buying hundreds of tickets, covering hotel rooms, and providing spending money. In the Times article, Michael Koncz, singled out Pacquiao's Achilles' heel: "The downfall of Pacquiao, if there is one, will be his kindness and generosity. At some point, I fear that's going to catch up to him." Beyond Pacquiao's generosity, he reportedly squandered millions from gambling. That doesn't even account for his fleet of cars and extensive property holdings, including houses, condos, apartments and such an intense desire to give his money away to the poor he had to hire people simply charged with the responsibility to apologize and prevent him from throwing money at all the open hands spread out before him."
AzCactus Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Maybe Mike Tyson will step into the ring and give each of them a right hook. At this point in his career I think he's a "value" actor.
matjone Posted April 29, 2015 Author Posted April 29, 2015 I'd say Mayweather. Just look at his nickname. I think Mayweather is a really calculating guy who is all about money. One theory I have is that it may have been Mayweather's strategy to delay the Pacquiao fight for as long as possible, solely to build anticipation and maximize the purse. Maybe he figured Pacquiao was the only one he thought might have a chance of beating him, so the max ev move was to extract all the money he could out of the rest of the field, and then go out with a monster payout from one or 2 Pacquiao fights. If he had fought Pacquiao 5 years ago and lost he'd probably be looking at a much smaller net worth currently because his fights would not have been as lucrative. Now if he loses he'll probably get a rematch and make another 100 m or more.
Shawn Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Floyd is going to floor Manny, those 2 were never on the same level. When you look at the news even, seems no one has faith in Manny the underlying question seems to be "how do we beat Mayweather" ? If it goes to points though, it's possible the judges might screw Floyd and give it to Manny just for the rematch because they know how much money is/would be on the table for a sequel. I think that Floyd Mayweather will make Manny Pacquaio look like meatloaf out there.
ScottHall Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 I like Mayweather, even though I probably won't watch this. So I hope he wins, I guess.
Yours Truly Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Pacquiao has nothing to lose because he's already lost so he'll walk away with a good chunk of money whether he wins/loses. Whereas Mayweather has his legacy and unbeaten streak on the line. This should be a good fight even though this is 5 years too late and both are probably past their "prime".
Gamecock-YT Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Mayweather should be too good and outpoint Manny in a competitive fight. Floyd is closer to his prime and would have been a huge task at any point. Will be interesting to see what gameplan Roach has concocted for Manny. Most success against Floyd has come from pure volume of punches because no one in this generation has had the tools to outscore him punch for punch. This. Floyd is just too quick. Going to have to do something against the grain to throw Floyd off, you fight him straight up it's over.
matjone Posted May 1, 2015 Author Posted May 1, 2015 Whoa, calm down there ScottHall. Two things I like about Pacquiao are that he is aggressive and IMO is a cleaner fighter than Mayweather. Mayweather does a lot of running and clinching and some other stuff that might be illegal depending on who you ask. Pacquiao just fights which is what we are coming to see to begin with. No wonder people are rooting for him.
AzCactus Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Pacquiao has nothing to lose because he's already lost so he'll walk away with a good chunk of money whether he wins/loses. Whereas Mayweather has his legacy and unbeaten streak on the line. This should be a good fight even though this is 5 years too late and both are probably past their "prime". I'm not sure I would say Mayweather's legacy is "on the line." It's not as if he loses he won't have a legacy. I would argue his legacy would be somewhat dampened. But that's it.
CONeal Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 I'm in the Mayweather corner but in the world of boxing the only thing that matters is the money. So I think the fight will go the distance and Mayweather will have clearly won but Pac Man will win on the judges cards for the sole reason that controversy will create demand for a rematch. This would be the scenario where they can cash in on a rematch.
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