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What deal? Denmark and the Europeans have been clear, they aren’t giving Greenland to America. The US already has a deal with Denmark which grants it practically unfettered access to Greenland for military purposes. Unless it is an economic deal, I don’t know what.

No deal though, just a lot of huffing a puffing. I swear the only thing Trump listens to is the stock market. Sounds like the beginning of a climb down. Time will tell.

They have already made an offer to buy Greenland, now and in 2019. I don't know if there was a discussion of money but Denmark has been clear that Greenland is not for sale. So whilst the sequence may be correct the pivot to an offer to buy Greenland seems off as Denmark doesn't appear to be interested in the money.

Mark's political leanings was well known in the UK when he was bank of England governor. He brought the DEI crap into the Bank of England. He referred to Brexit voters as far-right populists, undoubtedly he didn't mean all Brexit voters, but that's what he viewed the movement as being led by. I know you can't choose what your child becomes, but one of his is trans and received therapy at the Tavistock clinic which could only have happened with parental approval. At time of being an advisor to Trudeau he wasn't in public office, and even as governors of both the BoC and BoE, both those positions are independent of politics. He has claimed often that those who claim the system are broken are often looking to destroy the system rather than reform it, a convenient way to dismiss the criticisms and do nothing. And ironically, whilst this has been his criticism of the PP (whom he has criticised as a 'populist') he has subsequently identified many of the same problems that PP did several years prior. So he doesn't get a pass in my view. Of course everyone can read it whatever way they want but that's my own view.

It’s actually a good speech, better than I expected and I agree with a lot of it. I have an issue though, because it was people like him that pushed a whole load of ideological bullshit on their populations and just expected us all to take it. This is partly what gave rise to the wrecking ball that is Trump, gave rise to Brexit, and the current surge in populist parties. They were all in on what we call ‘globalism’. Open borders, as seen in the US and Europe, and being flooded with unauthorised migrants. The erection of huge regulation in the pursuit of net zero which only really off-shored CO2 emissions. The reduction in military spending and the rise of ever larger social programmes. DEI in education and jobs, as well as pushing ‘rights’ so far that it started to stamp on the rights of others (trans people in female sports). So honestly, part of me is like great, ‘moderation finally’. The other part is ‘fuck him’, reap what you sow, you could have read this in the tea leaves 10 years ago. But I do like the call for a return to common sensism. When the political parties actually listened to their electorate. When we agreed that immigration should be controlled. That military spending and hard power is important. When we knew what a man and a woman was. These were centrist all party issues not that long ago, and people like me have been called ‘far-right’ for wanting a return that. Late but better than never.

It is funny to see the like of Bessent telling everyone to calm down and not retaliate when the guy is slapping on tariffs and threatening annexation lol. ‘Just clam down everyone, don’t try and defend yourself and it will be ok’.

And energy security hopefully. These idiots have governed us for way too long. We need a political realignment grounded on common sense.

This is the same ice cap that certain politicans said would be gone by 2008. I’m not sure it’s going away anytime soon.

We are all shouting into the wind, better than pissing into it though, done that a few times and paid the price. Prefer shouting.

Don’t believe he made a comment about that, only that the shipping route currently doesn’t exist.

By the same logical Trump would need Canada too, more so in fact. I actually think Canada and US as one country makes a lot of sense, fat chance Trump will unite them - short of an invasion.

The UK giving up the Chagos Island is monumentally stupid, not only did those who live on the island not want it, the UK government decided to pay to give it away… billions too. Trump was asked about the deal specifically last year, and he said he was fine with it lol https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/27/donald-trump-suggests-he-will-back-uk-in-chagos-islands-deal Hopefully this act of self-harm is reversed.

Agree but quite a long way from undermining the US.

The text is what I’ve seen reported elsewhere, but the mock up with the White House logo and all is fake I believe. It was basically a text message that Trump is supposed to have sent to the Norwegian PM. You just have to lol at how silly some of the comments are. I remember thinking with Biden ‘yeh, this guy is losing his marbles’. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump is losing his.

Saber rattling is actively undermining now? Pretty weak Red.

Canada made a trade deal with China because Trump tariffed Canada. I don't agree with the Canadian decision, but who instigated the fight? 'Pursuing Greenland' - is that a sanitised way of give me Greenland or I will tariff you, and may even try and annex it? Have you considered that the Trump might be undermining the 'Western World', specifically his European and Canadian partners? Yes please, more examples of Western countries undermining the US...

What do you mean by this by intentionally undermine the US? Can you give an example.

It's amazing that's your take away... read the thread. It's most definitely, at the moment, Trump. In other times, I would largely agree.

I wouldn’t have a problem is China was a liberal democracy, but they aren’t. I couldn’t give a crap about net value creation when it comes to these things.

I don’t think it was a misunderstanding. He must know that Denmark and Europe, who control and own Greenland, can send whatever troops it likes to its own territory. Him getting annoyed by this seems to be all part of the game to ramp up the tension and pressure. Hope I’m wrong though.

lol, you got me.

You’re trolling. Exactly. Not only have the European been doing this, but both the US and Europe took China from an economic backwater to an economic and military superpower to rival the US and Europe. We knew China were a rival, we realised our mistake in opening them up for trade, and yet we still continued to do it until Trump - and even now we are still doing it. Just total stupidity.

I don't mind if the US ends up with Greenland, but if Denmark says no then say no, and Europe says no, that should be it. Most of Greenland is ethnically people from Denmark, not really true to call it a colony. It was in Denmarks control before the US was independent from Great Britain. Regarding whether they should have a say who controls them. I disagree they should have the right to decide, they are subsidised massively by Denmark, without which their existence might not even be viable. If it’s truly is of national security importance too then I think the 50,000 just have to live with their ‘colonial’ overlords. I mean does anyone think the US would allow Hawaii to become independent?

Lol, certainly part of that is true, about the hyping of threats and then a little bit of challenge they go running to sign deals with China… I mean OK. Putin though, many of the warnings have been correct, although I do still think some of it has been hyped too. Still he’s a threat, no doubt. On Greenland, don’t think you need to be an expert to have an opinion. Trump offers money, Denmark and Europe says no… Trump doesn’t like that lol.

Made a change for you, see what you think. Doesn’t fit perfectly but if you can buy Greenland why not Canada too? I don’t think anyone is disputing that US can’t make an offer, just that Denmark and Europe have been quite clear it’s not for sale. And like I said, you can equally argue Greenland is essential for European security too.