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Good news indeed! It's great to see that some of the most wealthy people on earth not only giving more and more of their fortune to charity, but also join their efforts to be more efficient with that charity money too!

Quite frankly I don't know my YTD rate of return and I don't care. Overall, the underlying businesses are doing well, the stock prices still provide a decent margin of safety...and that's what important to me. Take care of the bottom line and the stock price will follow. I've been a partial owner of all the businesses in it since 4 to 9 years!

I don't see why we should be happy that much with this news. Yes, the judge recognize that Fairfax suffered a loss, but dismissed the complain against a lot of defendants and suffering a loss is far from enough to win a case. That being said, if we ultimately win and the defendent is solvant, the judge has already recognized the damage being done to Fairfax. Cheers!

Because "'All man's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Pascal.

If you see big inflation, the CPI contract is not a major concern because it's cost is fixed, so the downside is limited. But, it's another story for the fixed income portfolio. We are hedged against a deflation scenario, but not for a high inflation one. It's like the Noa story. We have a boat in case it rains...but if it's shiny and hot, we'll be thirsty. Cheers!

Basicaly a flat quarter, wich is somewhat unusual ;)

Suffice to say that I will not cry if he's found guilty.

The answer is no. These are different companies. I understand their respective long term track record, but while you can see similarities between both models, they are also different in several aspects. I could take a look at Bidvest Group and say that it is the next Berkshire, but again there is also some differences. Same with Leucadia and Markel. I guess that there will never be any "next Berkshire Hathaway", like there will never be any next McDonald, Madonna, Bill Gates, JFK...or whatever. Cheers!

Yes, our suit shrinks, but I'm still with this battle, even if it cost us a little. Even if we lost, the hedge funds and their puppets stopped to spread their vomit the day Fairfax filed the suit and we can now sell our toasters without being annoyed by these people.

A bad year on the underwriting side (far from being the first one), a bad year on the hedge side, a good year (fortunately) on the bond side. Some of their stuff I like a lot (like good, big and cheap big companies), some of their stuff I wonder what they are doing there (like RIM), and the macro stuff that I can't predict. If the insurance business prices are getting interesting, it's a good thing to write more business, as long as you not fooling yourself with "catastrophes are not normal part of the business" kind of mindset. It's been some time since I've reviewed a lot of things in details with FFH, but overall, correct me if I'm wrong, but Fairfax will do very well if their deflation scenario happens, and will do bad if interest rates increase significantly. Regarding the stock price drop today, we're at about the same level as last october. Nothing to be excited or worried that much. Remember 2003? ...

Warren is not "losing it" a second. His rationale about taxes is clear and lucid. He has billions that he gives to charities and at this point, focus on lemonade stands things like a lot of us do is not going to move the needle. He put decades of brick after brick build reputation on the table for a cause that he deeply believes in. And the least that I we can say is that nobody can accuse him of tax policies lobbying for personal wealth interest!

RIM was some kind of a darling few years ago. Some even called it the next Microsoft of some kind. The fact is that I didn't know how to confidently say that it's competitive advantage was durable, so I've passed. Now we are few years later, and it's still in the "Too hard" pile to me. I would get anxious if the FFH position in it would get too high. I don't especialy like these 7 feet high turnaround situations, but Prem and co. did a good job with that overall since 1985. Cheers!

Hi Sanjeev, I remember what Fitch was doing to Fairfax in our lean years and how some of us were upset about them, so it's probably some anchoring but I can't get myself to give some credibility to Fitch. I know it's probably different people who rate these things, but...anyway, hey, I'm able to post again! Thank you very much for the help. Cheers!

That's a very good question to ask. I appreciate your curiosity and willingness. That being said, I unfortunately can't answer it. I can think of 5 to 10 baggers, but I do not wich one could grow that much with a fair level of confidence. Cheers!

Al, mediocre quarter?! Don't you remember the lean years? Come on, Al. ;) Well, Alzheimer's can't be all bad. You get to meet new people every day. 8)

RIP Mr. Jobs. It's innovative people like you that America needs to prosper over the long run.

It's a terrific interview with Prem. I was worry that it might goes too much about individual stocks in the FFH portfolio, but it didn't. It might be the best interview with Prem that I've seen so far. Cheers!

I'm not that surprised that much by that new announcement. Stock is cheap. Business is in good shape. Enough cash on the balance sheet. Give them flexibility to increase intrinsic value per share. But shareholders have red the news....

Thanks Sanjeev for the link. Cheers!

All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone. Blaise Pascal

Let's split it's age instead so we'll create more long term value ;)

Because it would put an unfair additional layer of taxes. If I own shares of a business directly and I receive a dividend, there is two layers of taxes (the operating company and me). If I own shares of a business that own a business, there is three layers. The holding company, the operating company and me. The actual way of not taxing the intercorporation dividends keep neutrality in the system. One tax of the corporation, one tax for the ultimate owner. If I tax the holding company for the operating company dividends, as the ultimate shareholder, I would get unfairly penalized because of that legitimate additional layer of ownership. You could then nearly say "bye bye" to all conglomerates and holding companies and that wouldn't make sense.

berkshiremistery, Thank you for posting. I've seen your posts over the years and they are very informative. Your chart say it all. I see that you are a "newbie" in this new message board. But, to me, you're a "hero member" since you posted a lot of posts with wisdom in them. I hope that you'll post more often. Sanjeev, To me, the key to our countries (US and Canada) is mostly not selective immigration. The key is to keep people that are here motivated, innovative and energic and to keep the great values that has built our country, whatever where they come from. Most of us (value investors) are conservative in nature. As value investors, we ask for a margin of safety, but America has been built with people who put their balls on the table because they believed in what they wanted to build. I come from a small town of business builders and that create jobs and wealth. We need people like that. As to S&P rating, they just...rate things, they are just like critics...they do not build the show. That being said, I do agree with their yellow flag. As a country, you have revenues and you have expenses. You need to focus on both responsibly. Some US politicians will have to take note and realize that an income statement comes with revenues and expenses and both are important. Cheers!

Those panicking "investors" aren't very rational. Greed/panic cycles are business as usual, but what is particular is how they panick even with the best quality businesses that are available to the public investors, like Wal-Mart, Coca-Cola, etc. etc. etc. who are selling at discounted prices that one would have dreamed to have in the end of the 90's. It's been a trend over the last years, but this trend has gone deeper than I would have reasonably expected. This time what is particular is how quality rhymes with low price. I guess we'll don't see that often. Cheers!

All these politics threads started by just a handful new members is well beyond the mission of B&F Corner. Indeed.