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[gfp]

Oh man I have PTSD from my years of arguing with the Social Security administration trying to get my adopted kid a social security number at 19 years old.  I had already secured a US passport from the state department but those idiots at Social Security refused to accept that a US passport was de-facto proof of US citizenship.  Finally they just got tired of me showing up everyday to the office and taking all the supervisor's time and gave the kid the f'ing SSN...  

 

Don't these new "Real IDs" require a birth certificate?  I forget what is required but remember it being a pain.

[Spekulatius]

You would be surprised how many people have trouble proving that are US citizen. Some lose their birth cert or don’t know where they stored it. I deal with this  quite often because we need to classify each visitor or contractor in my facility and the driving license alone doesn’t suffice. Then comes the passport passport which many don’t have and then comes the birth certificate. In quite cases  the visit had to be delayed  because the proof doesn’t come in time and after I received proof, I need to get electronic approval.

In theory it’s easy but there is a difference a difference between  theory and practice. If we had ICE comb some MAGA towns and round up and deport everyone who can’t produce a birth certificate/ passport  or proof of citizenship within 48h, we could depopulate vast stretches of this country.

[cubsfan]

27 minutes ago, gfp said:

Oh man I have PTSD from my years of arguing with the Social Security administration trying to get my adopted kid a social security number at 19 years old.  I had already secured a US passport from the state department but those idiots at Social Security refused to accept that a US passport was de-facto proof of US citizenship.  Finally they just got tired of me showing up everyday to the office and taking all the supervisor's time and gave the kid the f'ing SSN...  

 

Don't these new "Real IDs" require a birth certificate?  I forget what is required but remember it being a pain.

 

Thank you for that story GFP.

 

We have gone through hell with the State of Illinois DOT trying to renew my wife's drivers license.

 

During COVID - her driver's license expired. She tried to renew a couple months later.  DOT told us to bring in her birth certificate.  We contacted Epinal, France and they faxed/emailed us a copy - perfect!  

 

We take her copy of foreign birth certificate in - NOPE  - we will not accept that.  After 3 visits, I gave up. This for a renewal of an expired driver's license.

 

But you want to vote in ILL??  No proof of citizenship required - just say you are a citizen!

 

Why would the State of ILL make it a snap to register to vote - with no proof of citizenship - but make it IMPOSSIBLE for a resident to renew their expired driver's license.

 

The answers are obvious.

[gfp]

Dang @cubsfan !  I lived in Epinal France when I was 12 years old!  It started as one of those 3 week exchange programs but I stayed for a few months longer and the family I lived with was extremely wealthy.  I learned a lot about the finer things in life that stuck with me.  Later when the kid from Epinal came to Illinois and Indiana to see our family farm his verdict was that it was pretty shitty 

[cubsfan]

9 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

You would be surprised how many people have trouble proving that are US citizen. Some lose their birth cert or don’t know where they stored it. I deal with this  quite often because we need to classify each visitor or contractor in my facility and the driving license alone doesn’t suffice. Then comes the passport passport which many don’t have and then comes the birth certificate. In quite cases  the visit had to be delayed  because the proof doesn’t come in time and after I received proof, I need to get electronic approval.

In theory it’s easy but there is a difference a difference between  theory and practice. If we had ICE comb some MAGA towns and round up and deport everyone who can’t produce a birth certificate/ passport  or proof of citizenship within 48h, we could depopulate vast stretches of this country.

 

Not accurate. As explained, a citizen can get a copy of their birth certificate, usually for $10-35, give them the County name & City name, parent's name, and your full name.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

 

Some states may require a photo with signature or notarized.  

 

It's amazingly easy.

 

You're getting ridiculous again.

[cubsfan]

14 minutes ago, gfp said:

Dang @cubsfan !  I lived in Epinal France when I was 12 years old!  It started as one of those 3 week exchange programs but I stayed for a few months longer and the family I lived with was extremely wealthy.  I learned a lot about the finer things in life that stuck with me.  Later when the kid from Epinal came to Illinois and Indiana to see our family farm his verdict was that it was pretty shitty 

 

Holy crap! Wait until I tell Evelyne - she is not going believe this.  She lived in Epinal for 3 years, but grew up on the Moselle in Charmes, which I believe is 20 miles??  Moved to Rockford at 20 with her first husband - talk about culture shock.

Small world indeed GFP.

[73 Reds]

21 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Not accurate. As explained, a citizen can get a copy of their birth certificate, usually for $10-35, give them the County name & City name, parent's name, and your full name.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w/index.htm

 

Some states may require a photo with signature or notarized.  

 

It's amazingly easy.

 

You're getting ridiculous again.

Not only that, you can order a copy of ANYONE'S birth certificate.  When they have no argument they make up excuses.

[Sloanes Teddy]

27 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Not only that, you can order a copy of ANYONE'S birth certificate.  When they have no argument they make up excuses.

Can one order the long-form birth certificate? Asking for my pal Barack:)

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

Not only that, you can order a copy of ANYONE'S birth certificate.  When they have no argument they make up excuses.

 

I had no idea you could do that.

 

Almost as easy as an illegal immigrant can vote in a US election.