racemize Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 buying a portion of an IPO'd company? http://www.newser.com/article/567c3a5500224d7c800ae36df2f1dd7e/berkshire-hathaway-buys-nearly-10-percent-stake-in-axalta-coating-systems-for-560-million.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txlaw Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 buying a portion of an IPO'd company? http://www.newser.com/article/567c3a5500224d7c800ae36df2f1dd7e/berkshire-hathaway-buys-nearly-10-percent-stake-in-axalta-coating-systems-for-560-million.html And not just a regular IPO. An LBO IPO exit. A Twitter finance community member just made the point that Carlyle has more than tripled their money with this IPO. And that speaks poorly for Dupont management. I wonder if this company is a potential acquisition candidate for Berkshire? Seems like it would be very beneficial to vertically integrate with all of the planes, trains, and automobile activity going on with Berkshire. Valspar apparently generates 15% EBIT margins on its coatings business, with what looks like a pretty high return on assets. If you folded Axalta into Lubrizol, could you get a best of breed transportation coatings companies that generates very high returns on investment? (Just back of the envelope musings, right now.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xo 1 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 buying a portion of an IPO'd company? http://www.newser.com/article/567c3a5500224d7c800ae36df2f1dd7e/berkshire-hathaway-buys-nearly-10-percent-stake-in-axalta-coating-systems-for-560-million.html And not just a regular IPO. An LBO IPO exit. A Twitter finance community member just made the point that Carlyle has more than tripled their money with this IPO. And that speaks poorly for Dupont management. I wonder if this company is a potential acquisition candidate for Berkshire? Seems like it would be very beneficial to vertically integrate with all of the planes, trains, and automobile activity going on with Berkshire. Valspar apparently generates 15% EBIT margins on its coatings business, with what looks like a pretty high return on assets. If you folded Axalta into Lubrizol, could you get a best of breed transportation coatings companies that generates very high returns on investment? (Just back of the envelope musings, right now.) That's the only way I can make sense of the deal. Whatever the reason, there seems little reason to do a negotiated purchase at a premium to market. (I saw early reports that it was a 10% premium, but the stock price history doesn't support that as far as I can tell, unless we go back several months, which doesn't make sense.) Also, it's a pretty small buy for WEB to make personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Fox Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 This is almost definitely a Ted or Todd pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpRaider Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Really? $5 bil is a ~4.5% position, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Fox Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 It is a $560mm position, 23bps of the book value of BRK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpRaider Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yeah, not sure why i had $5 bil in my head. Wonder how he feels about them getting into bed right after he caled out pe in his letter. Not aure he can say much as the 3g deals dwarf this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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