cwericb

Some new information illustrating how Trump conducts business on behalf of the United States. 1. Canada signed a contract with 3M for an order of masks 2. Canada PAID 3M for the masks in advance. 3. Canada supplies 3M with materials to make masks 4. 3M produced the masks that now belong to Canada 5. Trump orders 3M not to ship masks to Canada and hold them for US use 6. Seems Canada threatened to prevent several thousand Canadian nurses from crossing the border to Detroit. 7. Facing closure of several Detroit hospitals, Trump backs down and allows masks to be shipped. Walk softly and carry a big stick.

Just announced. Reason prevails and Trump releases out masks. Damn poor judgement of his to try to take the masks in the first place. Unfortunately he never seems to understand the consequences of his actions. Guess he gets the point now.

Just watched a clip of the mayor of Windsor, Ont pleading not to have the Windsor/Detroit border closed as some Detroit hospitals would be forced to close with out Canadian staff. Hijacking our medical materials could have serious consequences, We can and will get our masks elsewhere, but try to come up with a couple of thousand nurses in a hurry.

"Not a nice move by the US. But also, Canada should have been stockpiling in Jan/Feb. Yea, its an interesting narrative and application of responsibility from some here. The US/Trump should have foreseen everything months ago and had massive stockpiles of everything one would be able to think of after the fact. Everyone else who is unprepared is the victim of Trump being an asshole." Perhaps, but these masks could have been ordered some time ago. The real slap in the face is that Canada supplies materials to 3M to make the masks that Trump is hijacking. 3M Canada may feel the effects of this. Also Canada plays a significant part in supporting health care in the US. it is a two way street.

Not abiding by social distancing is a $1,000 fine the first time, $2,000 the second time & $10,000 the third time. Several have been fined once.

"Ontario Premier Doug Ford on Monday said the United States had blocked the delivery of nearly three million face masks at the American border over the weekend. Ford said restrictions on shipments at the U.S. border have left the province with just one more week’s worth of personal protective equipment for health-care workers fighting the coronavirus outbreak in Ontario." When you can't depend on your best friend, closest ally and largest trading partner in a time of need it is a sad situation which I fear will have consequences in the future. I know that perhaps 50% of our cottage neighbours are American and it will have an effect.

I agree 100% with Gregmal's last 3 posts. Wearing a mask may not that all that effective in protecting you from from catching the virus, but it may help some. However it would obviously help stop those who have the virus, weather they know it or not, from spreading it. So if it is even only 10-20% effective, doesn't it make sense that everyone wear a mask when in contact with others? What's the downside as long as it doesn't deplete masks available to health care workers.

I suspect that much of the virus is spread by people who don't yet know they have it. Therefore if everyone wore a mask the spread would be reduced.

I think the question of masks is pretty simple. Surely it is a fact that if everyone wore a mask when outside of their home and in proximity to others the rate of spread would be reduced. And agin is it not better to err on the side of caution?

CUBS: I tried to explain that the embargo you support is against the PEOPLE of Cuba not the government they are doing just fine. The embargo is starving the PEOPLE of Cuba - not the government they are doing just fine. The embargo is limiting medicine and equipment to the PEOPLE of Cuba, not the government they are doing just fine. You fully support Trump’s embargo and in doing so you support punishing the PEOPLE of Cuba, not the government they are doing just fine. Got it now Cubs? Probably not, but others do. Now you also say: “I can see debate is not your strong suit” Well Cubs your eloquence and command of language is impressive. Here are just a couple of examples of how you have debated others: “Listen bold faced liar,” To me (regarding the above) “More of your bullshit once again.” to Ericopoly “Are you crazy or what?” and “What the fuck is your problem?” To StubbleJumper “Very funny Mr. Know-it-all...” To RichardGibbons And numerous other brilliant remarks to some of the respected members of this board who it seem to longer respond to your childish posts. I hope you are intelligent enough to be embarrassed.

I already explained that in a previous post. Did you not see it or just didn't understand what I said. If you want to call people names how about you back it up and show me where I lied. or are you just all mouth?

Cubs if you read a little about abnormal psychology you would understand what we are talking about. Or are you like your hero who says he doesn't read. I even tried to explain a few basic facts about Cuba and rather than learn something it just went over your head because it didn't jive with what you thought you knew.

And then there is this... Newsweek 3/24/20 : Cuba Uses 'Wonder Drug' to Fight Coronavirus Around World Despite U.S. Sanctions Cuba has mobilized its medical corps around the world to distribute a new "wonder drug" that officials there say is capable of treating the new coronavirus despite the United States' strict sanctions that continue to pressure the communist-run island. The drug, called Interferon Alpha-2B Recombinant (IFNrec), is jointly developed by scientists from Cuba and China, where the coronavirus COVID-19 disease outbreak first emerged late last year. Already active in China since January, the Cuban Medical Brigades began deploying to dozens of nations, providing personnel and products such as its new anti-viral drug to battle the disease that has exceeded 400,000 confirmed cases across the globe. As of Tuesday, over 100,000 people have recovered from the infection and more than 18,000 have died.

"Bronx Zoo tiger tests positive for coronavirus " A 4-year-old Malayan tiger at the Bronx Zoo has tested positive for the COVID-19 bug after developing a dry cough, the Wildlife Conservation Society said in a statement Sunday.

"Now I believe the majority attitude is ok let's err on the side of caution, so what if we overreact." Absolutely. This seems to be what some don't seem to understand. Overreaction will be expensive. Underreaction will kill people. This is new unexplored territory and no one knows how it will work out so it is better to overreact than underreact.

“Really how he has operated since birth--he gets all the upside, others the downside (the buck stops...).” “The buck stops here” Harry Truman “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country ”Jack Kennedy “I don’t understand wind” Donnie Trump

And back to the Coronavirus... “Without any containment measures whatsoever the WHO estimates one person with this virus affects 2.5 others.” So let’s round it off to 3 people. If each of those 3 spread it to 3 more and they spread it to 3 more (already we are up to 81 people) and each of them spread it to 3 more. I mean, in a matter of a week that one single person could have essentially infected thousands. So barring a treatment or vaccine which could be months. if not years away it is hard not to be pessimistic as to how we resolve this any time soon.

Couple of questions that have been nagging at me so I will just throw them out there. How do we know when this thing is over? One person can spread the virus to dozens of others, correct? And each one of those can spread it to numerous others so it spreads on an exponancial basis. So a long as even a few people in the world has the virus, how do we return to normal life with a normal economy? So aside from finding effective treatments and a vaccine, how can anyone say it will not continue to spread unless we know that no one has it?

Cubs, Lets set the record straight. First: you are the only one who used the word “liar”. Second: I have never professed to be an expert on Cuba as you keep saying. However, having been there well over a dozen times in the past 20 years I probably know more about the country than you who has never been there. Third: Your words... “I've said the Communist government of Cuba has failed their people for 60 years and the welfare of the people is the responsibility of the Cuban government.” What you conveniently ignore is the fact that the US is intentionally using the embargo to strangle the government AND THERBY the PEOPLE of Cuba. And by the way, the Cuban people are not particularly poor. But it doesn’t matter how much money you have if there is no food on the shelves because the local bully does everything it can to starve the country. You also stated: “Cwericb - read it and weep. 68 countries have banned exports of PPE.” But one of them was not Canada. Ironic that Canada supplies the the materials to make the masks and then your country hijacks them. Judge yourself accordingly sir.

Go back and see what you wrote.

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You have already said the poor of Cuba don't deserve help to fight the virus, right. Well there you go.

Hey Cubs, I am no particular fan of China. But they did come to Canada's aid when our supposed best friend to the south flatly refused - or did you miss that fact. And unlike some I don't hate every poor person who happens to live in another country.

Watching Trump on Corona virus and in almost an hour I don't think the man has completed a sentence yet. rb, don't let Cubs get to you. He brings up the most rediculous things and then if you ask him a question or to support his accusations he disappears or changes the subject. They have names for people like that.

Dear Mr. Trump. You can keep your masks. We have just sent Air Canada to China to pick up a few million of them. While we will not forget, we do have enough class class to continue to provide you with the materials to make those precious masks that you stole from us. We will not shut the power off to Boston and New York, nor will we prevent the 3,000 Canadian nurses who cross the border daily to staff Detroit’s hospitals. And the next time you have a 911, we will still allow your planes to land here and take in your people. But it is nice to know who your true friends are in times of need.