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  1. For me this is the single biggest challenge to sizing big (30-50% of your liquid portfolio at cost). In any given week or month on its way to price discovery, the price may move 10-20-30% against you for any justified or unjustified reason and that 3 to 15% M2M erosion of liquid networth can feel brutal even if mentally you treat it as just a paper loss. I can tell from experience that it gets easier after the first time you've done it successfully and especially once it moves significantly in the money (for whatever reason our minds can handle house money loss a bit better than dips in original capital..Hence the preponderance of sell half on double regime among many). And I WOULD NEVER size that big on Margin unless you have special funding that can't be withdrawn/terms changed easily. Otherwise it is just crazy talk. There is a second aspect to it that is not well understood even if patently obvious. It is far easier to find a 2x than to find and ride a 6x or a 10x. So investing big in a "sure" 2x is preferable to investing peanuts in a probable 5-10x move. The $ impact is not dissimilar even if ROI on the ideas are different. Finally, black swans by design are not predictable or measurable. Look at TAL the Chinese education company that is generally perceived as a solid company but has fallen more than 90% in this Chinese tech crackdown. One fine day the CCP decides to render a large part of the industry not for profit. So you have no idea of knowing your specific unknown unknown that could render a business worthless overnight or put it in heavy distress. You just can't. The only remedy is to be prepared for the worst case which is a total loss of the capital (even if completely unlikely). If that outcome is not palatable for your individual context then don't size as big.
  2. OSTK - the furniture biz is selling at half of where it should and so we essentially get a portfolio of a couple dozen blockchain investments (w 70% carry for ListCo) basically for free. That sort of crypto exposure is rarely available in the public markets.
  3. I mean prudence sneezes at the mention of leverage but which investor would not want 1.enormous amounts of 2. Limited recourse leverage 3. available for long periods of time? It’s a massive carry trade when coupled with someone who has a significant edge in profitably using the implied negative or low cost of that capital (as Buffett has been doing for 50 odd years). Mohnish may have been unsuccessful at it but atleast he tried and put himself in a position to be able to afford it.
  4. Einhorn’s stubbornness sometimes reminds me of the flexibility of Soros strangely. When Soros would come across an approach to making money that he couldn’t do himself he would carve out a part of his capital and hand that to the specific strategy/manager. He wasn’t stubborn about it. There are many ways to make money and he didn’t have to master them himself or be fixated about only his own as if it was his sworn religion. Maybe that came from his trading mindset (even though in early 70s he started out as a value investor himself). Flexibility and open mindedness is less common than we realize.
  5. I don’t really see a big correction right away. As Jamie Dimon says, we are entering a Goldilocks period of multiple tailwinds for the economy. There is more risk in staying out than staying in here I think. As for interest rates, I don’t see them much higher than where they are. The perennial QE and low interest rates have taken OECD debt to GDP to such a level that higher interest rates are just not an option anymore (so long as the central banks can help it). I’m sure there will be market sneezes along the way but nothing crazy. We are swimming in a sea of massive liquidity and the pro cyclical forces continue to gain ground.
  6. I don't have names for you but have some considerations. First of all...over a horizon that long, the returns on the stock should approximate the core returns of the business with valuation not really a big factor. That should widen the set of names that one would consider. Secondly, business life cycles have shortened materially since the 70s/80s so it ideally has to be a slowly changing industry or if not ..it has to be led by a team/executives who can keep reinventing the firm in each new cycle (e.g. Samsung of the past or the IBM of the past). Thirdly, the extent of fiat debasement that is happening in the world at present (or since the great recession) makes me really wary of anything barely generating mid single digits in core compounding. So it would have to be something able to grow better than that. Ideally, one that keeps pace with this debasement/inflation. Lastly, there has to be an element of antifragility in the business as the world has been in a state of long (relative) peace for over 70 years. Whether it is war or a super pandemic or something else that is an unknown unknown or known unknown, the business has to be able to survive an extended period of dislocation. It better have some strong cushions built in.
  7. The problem is that the spread of viruses is governed by the science of networks more than just the nature of the disease (ref. Nexus by Mark Buchanan) in large complex interconnected systems. If a significant chunk of population do not vaccinate in the name of some conspiracy or pseudo science or real science or freedom or whatever individually justifiable reason, they are rendering the whole network potentially vulnerable to perennial exposure to the virus...provided this group has a significant critical mass/membership. I suspect governments will eventually be forced down the road of mandatory vaccinations in the future. May not be this epidemic but eventually that is coming.
  8. This book was referenced in the interview with Mark Leonard (not by him but by the interviewer) and sounded compelling so I am going to give it a read.
  9. People don't have a personal experience with high inflation or they would worry more. Most haven't lived through the 1970s stagflation when rates were in teens or the terrible things that happened in 1920s Weimar Germany during hyperinflation. LatAm 90s inflation or Zimbabwe's inflation or that in Venezuela more recently are more stories and memes to most. Even the risk aversion of the Depression got lost along the way by the late 50s. That's why history rhymes because people forget the lessons of the past once generational handover happens.
  10. APTS looks quite interesting, Thanks. 98% are fixed mortgages at a weighted average interest rate of around 4% with less than 3% of them maturing in the next 2 years. Almost full occupancy even during the pandemic. Common equity is a sliver of the EV and the calls on the common then become an option on an option. If only there were some LEAPs, it would be even more fun.
  11. Exited a couple of trading sardines which seemed like eating sardines but were not anymore.
  12. Henry Singleton did a variant of this back in the day with Teledyne. Watered the stock down like crazy by issuing a lot of stock to fund 100+ acquisitions in the conglomerate boom of 60s and then in the ensuing 70s bear market bought back 80% of it when everyone had given up on stocks. The stock did phenomenally well over his lifetime: ~23% CAGR over 35 years IIRC.
  13. Ice77

    Space X

    It is a prized asset. I was surprised when I heard it was going to be listed this early. VCs don’t usually share the spoils of such assets this early with the public. Even the Russians rocket scientists admire it. But people expect miracles and a fully formed business model when it’s barely the 2nd innings of the private space race. But for the DA timing amid a correction, it would be trading lot higher
  14. Ice77

    Space X

    I don’t see it that way at all. I see it as one would underwrite insurance for a possible event. Getting paid 5% premium for a 2% probability event if done with regularity is not a bad deal. We are talking of one of the only companies apart from SpaceX to have a successful launch vehicle. It’s a conditional probability event just like betting on a successful entrepreneur’s second startup. The odds of success are different than if he were on his first one. That it requires lots of capital and is very difficult to do can be an evolving moat of sorts. Even Astra which is led by ex CTO of NASA and ex SpaceX engineers has failed to reach orbit. It is not easy so I’m not going to summarily dismiss someone like RocketLabs who has done it and done it many times.
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