Cardboard Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 http://rt.com/usa/ndakota-train-derailment-explosion-996/ When are you going to pick up the phone Mr. Buffett and tell Mr. Obama to approve the XL pipeline before more people get killed as we have seen in Quebec from this train transportation folly? Cardboard
Zorrofan Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Cardboard, it is more like.... Mr. Obama, When are you going to stop pandering to enviromentalists in a bid for votes in 2014? Do people really think oilsands are worse than getting oil from developing countries with little or no environmental standards compared to Canada? If the oil dosen't come from Canada it will get imported from elsewhere. cheers Zorro
Cardboard Posted December 31, 2013 Author Posted December 31, 2013 Mr. Obama just looks nice to environmentalists. For example, flaring is allowed in the U.S., not in Alberta. If natural gas is cheap and a Bakken producer just wants to produce light oil and avoid natural gas treatment cost, they just burn it. So Alberta oil is cleaner than U.S. oil on a CO2 basis. I don't know the exact math about oil sands natural gas usage and oil used in the process vs what is being shipped out but, it has to be close or better than flaring since it was argued in a recent decision by the EU. http://www.euractiv.com/energy/canada-attacks-eu-data-labelling-news-531692 http://opinion.financialpost.com/2013/08/12/eu-fuel-directive-demonizes-oil-sands/ It is all hypocrisy on a grand scale. Cardboard
fareastwarriors Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Cardboard, it is more like.... Mr. Obama, When are you going to stop pandering to enviromentalists in a bid for votes in 2014? Do people really think oilsands are worse than getting oil from developing countries with little or no environmental standards compared to Canada? If the oil dosen't come from Canada it will get imported from elsewhere. cheers Zorro The thing is even if Obama approves the pipeline, what are the environmentalists going to do about it? Vote Republicans? I don't think so.
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