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  1. What about the feel on your body of Athleta and Lucy clothes yoga expert?  ;)

     

    I think that you guys are missing the point. It is not just about yoga here. The brand is now selling to other people who are not practicing yoga at all. That is how they grew so big. Some wear it just because of the logo/brand, they are in style. They are now expanding in golf. We are well past just yoga enthusiasts.

     

    Think about the younger girl wearing these things because it is cool and the other girls starting to question her and making a few jokes about see through. And they are expensive, so the other girls unable to buy them are also jealous and will jump on the opportunity. How do you think this is going to work out? You might counter by saying that they sell more to women in their late 20's, but tell me that they never worry about how they look, what they wear, perception from others.

     

    This is not like a woman buying a pack of Maple Leaf bacon or other meat product at the grocery store. The person may recall the previous fiasco, but now trust that quality controls have gone up and there is no one to laugh or comment on her purchase.

     

    Moreover, how much more time will people try the pants on in the stores to ensure that they are not see through in the future? They are $100 or more which is retarded for something that is worth half of that no matter what the material is. Tell me that this has no impact on the reputation again. Time will tell, but I am not shorting just for current valuation here. The snowball effect is possible here on the brand and future profitability.

     

    Cardboard

     

    Notice I prefaced my statement with "anecdotal" which by definition means my view my be completely irrelevant :) I also won't argue that yoga pants are probably a fad with regards to the non-yogi or non-athletic consumers that have hopped on the train.

     

    But, I feel the brand recognition is strong enough and they have established themselves enough that they are more than a 1 trick pony. Yoga pants may not be as popular in a few years but I think the brand likely will be more popular.

     

    No position. Just offering my opinion which could be totally wrong.

  2. Anecdotal, but as someone who has practiced yoga for around 10 years I don't think this will cause a shift in loyalty to other brands. People that practice yoga especially women tend to be really fanatical about the exercise clothing they wear. Nike and others do not IMO offer the same feeling of being associated with a particular lifestyle or method of exercise. People who purchase their products are making a statement and you can't make that statement currently with the athletic brands like Nike.

     

    I think men could be easily swayed to buy Nike products but I think the brand recognition that Lululemon has with women is strong. I see this more as short term road bump.

     

    Agree the valuation is rich.

  3. I know there are some of us who are extremely disappointed with Google closing down Reader. I have already moved my google feeds to Feedly just in case all our petitioning turns out to be useless.

     

    But today I noticed something strange in both me Feedly feeds and Google reader feeds. When I opened the COBF message board , some of the posts under 'Recent Posts' were not even being shown in either Google reader or Feedly. I am not sure why? Does any one know why these posts do not show up in Reader or Feedly ( unless of course there is some sort of an international conspiracy against some board members ;-) )

     

     

    I grabbed the screen captures of both. Can some one please explain the discrepancy?

     

    Not sure off the top of my head what the discrepancy is from but I have found the ATOM based feed to be superior to the RSS feed. My guess is that reader and feedly are defaulting to the RSS based feed. See my notes here:

     

    http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/general-discussion/rss-feed/msg98551/#msg98551

  4. Coursera (https://class.coursera.org/modelthinking-2012-002/class/index) is offering their Model Thinking course again.

     

    I enjoyed it when I took it last winter.

    Netnet - I had registered last winter as well.  Didn't get a chance to go through - am doing it now.

     

    A synthesis of Dawkins' writings and cellular automata rule throws up interesting explanations for me.

     

    I started it over the winter but got distracted by work and family around Thanksgiving and Christmas. Taking it again. I liked what portions of the class I took last time around.

  5. On the notion of stealing, its best to steal from managers that exhibit high concentration and low turnover such as Sequoia Fund, ESL, BB, Lou Simpson, Chuck Akre, Wedgewood Partners, Weitz value and of course Pabrai/Weschler

     

    Agree.

    thanks for mentioning other managers.

     

    One other thing to think about is that (at least in my opinion) someone like Tepper could have hedges or paired trades that might not be obvious, so following him into a long position might not mirror what he is actually doing, where as some of the others mentioned are usually just long their best ideas. I generally try to keep apprised of what my favorite managers are doing, try to figure out their thesis and then wait to see if the price goes below their cost basis.

  6. Is there a way to determine what Ted/Todd picks are? 

     

    Compare previous 13-Fs?

     

    The easiest way (for me at least) is to watch/read the WEB interviews. People ask him why he bought Intel or GM and he will mention that they were not his purchases. This used to happen all the time with Lou's portfolio, BAC was a Lou position that people always asked Buffett about.

     

    AFAIK these are the current holdings that WEB's picks. Anyone see any errors:

     

    WFC

    KO

    IBM

    PG

    WMT

    PSX

    MCO

    WPO

    COST

    MDLZ(kraft spin off)

    KRFT

    GCI

    GE

    USB

    PSX(cop spin off)

    COP

    JNJ

     

    You just omited American Express, his fourth holding :)

     

    Duh! Cut and paste error :)

  7. Is there a way to determine what Ted/Todd picks are? 

     

    Compare previous 13-Fs?

     

    The easiest way (for me at least) is to watch/read the WEB interviews. People ask him why he bought Intel or GM and he will mention that they were not his purchases. This used to happen all the time with Lou's portfolio, BAC was a Lou position that people always asked Buffett about.

     

    AFAIK these are the current holdings that WEB's picks. Anyone see any errors:

     

    WFC

    KO

    IBM

    PG

    WMT

    PSX

    MCO

    WPO

    COST

    MDLZ(kraft spin off)

    KRFT

    GCI

    GE

    USB

    PSX(cop spin off)

    COP

    JNJ

     

     

  8. I think you have to do it the old fashioned way.  Determine the approximate date and go through each and every filing.  Tedious.

     

    my eye!

     

    oh well, that's life I guess.

     

    There are some easier ways. Edgar has full text searching with an advanced search option that allows to specify the form type. It is sometimes easier. For example:

     

    Go here: http://searchwww.sec.gov/EDGARFSClient/jsp/EDGAR_MainAccess.jsp

     

    Clicked on advanced.

     

    I have found some of the warrants prospectus as from type 424B7, although they may not all be of that type. So if you enter Bank of America on the company name field and form type of 424B7 on the drop down then search you should be able to find it. It works for some and not for others. You can also narrow down by date.

     

    Someone more familiar with the prospectus form types (424X) care to comment on the different types and what they are used for?

  9. Miller seems to have lacked an understanding of capital preservation. 

     

    I remember reading an interview with him where he was asked how he knew when he was wrong. His answer (paraphrasing): When I can no longer get a quote.

     

    That did it for me.

     

    FWIW, I've felt that Seth Klarman's barbs at "value pretenders" in his Margin of Safety was directed, amongst others, at Bill Miller.

     

    Best,

    Ragu

     

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/legg-masons-bill-miller-releases-4q05-shareholders-letter-55119377.html

     

    We average down relentlessly.  Two things seem pretty clear to me:

            first, no one can consistently buy at the low or sell at the high

            (except liars, as Bernard Baruch said), and second, lowest average

            cost wins.  We constantly strive to lower the average cost of our

            positions by buying more if and when the price drops.  Throwing good

            money after bad, others call it.  Many investors think a drop in the

            price of stocks they own is evidence they were wrong.  We think of it

            as an opportunity to increase our implied rate of return by lowering

            our average cost.  Someone once asked me how I knew when we were

            wrong to do that.  When we can no longer get a quote, was my answer.

     

  10. Miller seems to have lacked an understanding of capital preservation.  It is interesting that Buffett has never made this mistake on a large scale. 

     

    There is alot to be said about avoiding mistakes as part of an overall long term success strategy.  Bill Miller failed at this.  As a result his long term record got slaughtered.

     

    Buffet and Munger have stated that avoiding mistakes has been an integral part of their long term success.  Buffett published his requirements for a successor, and one of them was to be able to manage risk, even where is was not easily predictable.

     

    His big drop seems to be the 2008 crisis and my understanding is that he was big into financial stocks at that time. But weren't many other value investors hit in the same way. From what I gather, people (Miller and other value investors) didn't anticipate liquidity risks which ultimately killed companies like Bear Sterns and took funds like Miller's down. Was he different from other value funds in that regard?

     

    I think Uccmal is referring to the fact the Wechler and Combs made it through the crisis without getting killed and that was highlighted when Buffet hired them as examples of the type of people BRK wanted to hire. Hence there are other people available to watch or follow who have records of capital preservation. They were managing partnerships/hedge funds though not mutual funds.

     

    Not sure which value mutual fund managers made it through the crisis without getting killed. Berkowitz was %30 down in 2008 but from what I remember he was not holding any of financials that got creamed. I think he really started getting into AIG and BAC in 2010.

  11. His horrendous performance in 2007 and 2008 killed his long term track record. He's underperfomed the S&P 500 since inception by about 10% (though since he left the fund like a year ago or whatever performance has gotten better.

     

    http://quotes.morningstar.com/fund/f?t=LMVTX&region=USA&culture=en-US

     

    Which fund does he actually run now? From the link you posted, his biggest S&P beats seem to some in the late 90s. Was he a big tech guy?

     

    He manages Legg Mason Capital Management Opportunity Trust (LMOPX) now. With regards to tech stocks, I am pretty sure he owned AOL, Amazon and Dell probably others. He also owned Enron and WolrdCom.

     

  12. I'm trying to get the SEC filings for a few warrants in order to get the dividend threshold amount--how do you look them up if you know the company ticker?

     

    In particular, I'm looking for:

    BPFH

    LNC

    SBNY

    TCB

    VLY

     

    Thanks!

     

    I actually setup a website to track warrants few years back, there might be some stuff you are looking for on it.

     

    http://warrants.valueashram.com/

     

    Go to "screen all warrants" then select "50" from the drop down list of # of items to display (it shows 10 by default).

     

    I have not messed with it for a year or two so some of the data may be old or broken. In theory the prices should update regularly from yahoo finance. So yeah no promise the data is accurate :)

     

    If there is interest I could update it to be more useful or have more data on it. At the moment it just pulls some stuff from yahoo finance (div, book value etc..) which is not always accurate.

     

    Actually, that's exactly what I've been using--it just doesn't have the dividend adjustment threshold(that's mostly what I'm missing).  Do you have those somewhere?

     

    More generally, I'm interested in knowing how to find the SEC filings for these, just to get my SEC-fu up.

     

    Edit: Also, thank you very much for that website, it helped me find several of the warrants.  I think it is missing Sun trust and GM warrants, btw.

     

    I just dug up my spreadsheet, it only has a few of the div hurdles and a few of the CUSIPs (which are handy for finding the prospectus in edgar or via google):

     

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AklQsl6HU-bedDg5QWw4SFRmdXBSXzUwcTZFZFpaN0E#gid=0

     

    If you can corale any more data, I can put it on the site or update the tables to have more columns like the div reduction.

  13. I'm trying to get the SEC filings for a few warrants in order to get the dividend threshold amount--how do you look them up if you know the company ticker?

     

    In particular, I'm looking for:

    BPFH

    LNC

    SBNY

    TCB

    VLY

     

    Thanks!

     

    I actually setup a website to track warrants few years back, there might be some stuff you are looking for on it.

     

    http://warrants.valueashram.com/

     

    Go to "screen all warrants" then select "50" from the drop down list of # of items to display (it shows 10 by default).

     

    I have not messed with it for a year or two so some of the data may be old or broken. In theory the prices should update regularly from yahoo finance. So yeah no promise the data is accurate :)

     

    If there is interest I could update it to be more useful or have more data on it. At the moment it just pulls some stuff from yahoo finance (div, book value etc..) which is not always accurate.

  14. Ok this very hacky but it works for the few symbols I tested. If I were going to use this on a regular basis I would use one the html parsing modules available for python, but I wanted a quick POC that did not require installing additional software.

     

    As mentioned earlier in this thread, the SEC offers ticker -> CIK resolution via there web interface and you can screen scrape data that way if you have the ticker and want the CIK. However they do not offer the reverse.

     

    So basically what my script does is hit the SEC website with the CIK to get a company name. It then takes the company name and does a search against yahoo for the ticker. if more than one ticker are returned from yahoo finance it only grabs the first. I tested it on a few tickers and worked ok, but I imagine it will not work for all cases. And this code is very dependent on yahoo or the SEC not changing layouts on their websites.

     

    I also do some fuzzy matching on the names. For example I only grab the first two words in the company name unless the second word is only 2 letters long, then I grab three. This is try and avoid situations where one data source has "corp" and the other has "corporation" etc...

     

    The best way to do this long term would be the harvest the data yourself with some scripts and then run your software or site or whatever off your normalized data.

     

    Here are some usage example assuming the script name is "cik.py":

     

    python cik.py 0001021860
    Searching for symbol that matches 0001021860
    Found company name NATIONAL OILWELL VARCO INC  from SEC
    Attempting to search yahoo finance for NATIONAL OILWELL
    Yahoo search URL is http://finance.yahoo.com/lookup?s=NATIONAL%20OILWELL
    NOV
    
    python cik.py 0001067983
    Searching for symbol that matches 0001067983
    Found company name BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC  from SEC
    Attempting to search yahoo finance for BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY
    Yahoo search URL is http://finance.yahoo.com/lookup?s=BERKSHIRE%20HATHAWAY
    BRK-B
    
    python cik.py 0000783412
    Searching for symbol that matches 0000783412
    Found company name DAILY JOURNAL CORP  from SEC
    Attempting to search yahoo finance for DAILY JOURNAL
    Yahoo search URL is http://finance.yahoo.com/lookup?s=DAILY%20JOURNAL
    DJCO
    
    python cik.py 1085917
    Searching for symbol that matches 1085917
    Found company name BANK OF AMERICA CORP  from SEC
    Attempting to search yahoo finance for BANK OF AMERICA
    Yahoo search URL is http://finance.yahoo.com/lookup?s=BANK%20OF%20AMERICA
    BAC
    

     

    And the python code:

     

    import urllib
    import urllib2
    import re
    import sys
    
    cik = sys.argv[1]
    
    print "Searching for symbol that matches %s" % cik
    
    yahoo_url = 'http://finance.yahoo.com/lookup?s='
    edgar_url = 'http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?CIK=%s&action=getcompany' % cik
    string_match = 'companyName'
    
    # Fetch company page from edgar using the CIK
    response = urllib2.urlopen(edgar_url)
    for line in response:
        if string_match in line:
            name_match = re.search('<span class="companyName">(.*)<acronym', line)
            company_name = name_match.group(1)
            print "Found company name %s from SEC" % company_name
    
    # Here we do some fuzzy logic. If the company name has more than 
    # three words then only use the first two unless the second word
    # is 2 chars or less.
    if len(company_name.split()) >= 2:
        company_name_words = company_name.split()
        if len(company_name_words[1]) <= 2:
            company_name = '%s %s %s' % (company_name_words[0],
                                         company_name_words[1],
                                         company_name_words[2])
        else:
            company_name = '%s %s' % (company_name_words[0], company_name_words[1])
    
    print "Attempting to search yahoo finance for %s" % company_name
    
    
    # URL encode the company name
    company_name = urllib.quote(company_name)
    
    #Take the company name to yahoo and get the ticker
    yahoo_url = 'http://finance.yahoo.com/lookup?s=%s' % company_name
    print "Yahoo search URL is %s" % yahoo_url
    response = urllib2.urlopen(yahoo_url)
    # Interate throught the HTML and print the first ticker. If there
    # are more than one we only get the first.
    for line in response:
        # the existence of "ticker_up" or "ticker_down" tells we are 
        # on the line with the first symbol
        if "ticker_up" in line or "ticker_down" in line:
            ticker_link = re.search('<td>(.*?)</td>', line).group(1)
            ticker = re.search('">(.*?)</a>', ticker_link).group(1)
            print ticker
            break
    

  15. I'm looking for a way to find a ticker for a stock if I already have a CIK. The SEC is CIK driven and I can't seem to find a link between the two. Does anyone know of a list that's updated frequently with a CIK and associated ticker?

     

    I have already surfed the SEC's FTP server without luck.

     

    If not any idea on how to get this programatically?

     

    On a side note can somebody explain the SEC ascention numbering scheme?

     

    You could programatically get it by scraping the data off the edgar website. I usually use python for stuff like this but it could be easily adapter to other languages.

     

    This code (in python) takes the ticker in the variable "ticker" and the fetchs the company data page from edgar, parses out the CIK.

     

    import urllib2
    import time
    ticker = 'BAC'
    string_match = 'rel="alternate"'
    url = 'http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=&match=&CIK=%s&owner=exclude&Find=Find+Companies&action=getcompany' % ticker
    response = urllib2.urlopen(url)
    
    
    for line in response:
        if string_match in line:
            for element in  line.split(';'):
                if 'CIK' in element:
                    cik = element.replace('&amp','')
                    print cik
    

     

    Woops this does the opposite of what you asked for. Could do the reverse easy as well. Happy to post an example after dinner for getting the reverse if you want/need it.

  16. I'm looking for a way to find a ticker for a stock if I already have a CIK. The SEC is CIK driven and I can't seem to find a link between the two. Does anyone know of a list that's updated frequently with a CIK and associated ticker?

     

    I have already surfed the SEC's FTP server without luck.

     

    If not any idea on how to get this programatically?

     

    On a side note can somebody explain the SEC ascention numbering scheme?

     

    You could programatically get it by scraping the data off the edgar website. I usually use python for stuff like this but it could be easily adapter to other languages.

     

    This code (in python) takes the ticker in the variable "ticker" and the fetchs the company data page from edgar, parses out the CIK.

     

    import urllib2
    import time
    ticker = 'BAC'
    string_match = 'rel="alternate"'
    url = 'http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=&match=&CIK=%s&owner=exclude&Find=Find+Companies&action=getcompany' % ticker
    response = urllib2.urlopen(url)
    
    
    for line in response:
        if string_match in line:
            for element in  line.split(';'):
                if 'CIK' in element:
                    cik = element.replace('&amp','')
                    print cik
    

  17. No different than their investment in Bank of Ireland.  Cheers!

     

    Just seems to an outsider, that Greece has a much more of a systemic problem and Ireland more of a bubble problem.

     

    Initially no one really understood how much off balance sheet commitments the government had but I believe that is all now known. NBG's biggest problem AFAIK is that they hold of a ton of gov bonds, I don't think they did anything really terrible other than owning greek bonds (such as buying a bad mortgage paper factory). Seems like with those factors it would be a good place for the Fairfax team to look for deals. True Greece has a lot of issues with tax evasion and corruption but from what I remember reading in The Boomerang NBG was actually fairly well run.

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