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I do not believe it’s true as such a sensitive conversation would not be leaked. However, I would guess it’s a warning to Israel to say you are on a tight leash and stay in line. - which they are fighting

“You’re fucking crazy. You’d be in prison if it weren’t for me. I’m saving your ass. Everybody hates you now. Everybody hates Israel because of this.” - Trump speaking to Nethanyahu and putting him on a leash. (Trump is not as much of a clown as I thought he was) https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-said-to-call-netanyahu-fking-crazy-while-demanding-lebanon-truce-im-saving-your-ass-everybody-hates-you-now/

Seriously? I’m flabbergasted that you don’t see what’s right in front of you. The US failed to achieve any of its key military or secondary objectives in this conflict. As a result, the Navy is heading home — along with all other US military personnel in the region. (I’ll share pictures) Iran has been setback years? US intelligence is saying the opposite! (I bet you are getting your facts from Israelis propaganda- we know when US listened to that rubbish what happened to them at the start of the war) https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/iran-military-rebuild I asked @73 Reds what portion of the reconstruction fund belongs to Israel. I’ll ask you the same: What’s the US share?

Listen to joe Kent a true American hero speak the truth on the Israeli lobby. I want you to be MAGA, stand up and take your country back!!! - not via assumptions and speculations but by facts that your foreign policy is being dictated by a foreign government. https://x.com/FurkanGozukara/status/2059732956130742457/video/1?s=46

Repeating the same propaganda over and over, with zero actual evidence beyond ‘listen to dumb Trump and dumber Netanyahu,’ doesn’t magically make it true! - I know the cartoon drawing is really compelling! As Canadians, we really respected PM Chrétien because he saw the BS from Bush and avoided joining US attacking Iraq over “weapons of mass destruction”. It’s the same BS again and again, you are smarter then that.

You don’t fully comprehend the level of sanctions on Iran. Iran exited US control after the revolution and these sanctions are a way to control them eg look how US tells Israel when to jump, we will never ever agree to be under someone’s thumb Now that those shackles will be released, watch the country thrive! (Everyone blames the government but it was US/Israel holding them back)

This is to start negotiating the nuclear deal. Since these type of deals takes years as per the JCPOA we will never see a final deal and the dates will keep on getting pushed out. Essentially, trump is kicking the can down the road for the next president to figure it out.

How much of the $300B is Israel’s portion?

Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Iran and the United States Details of the current Peace Deal, per an Iranian MP: (It’s a beauty, as Trump calls it - It’s the art of the deal) 1. Declaration of the end of the war throughout the Middle East 2. Respect for each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity 3. Negotiation a Final deal within 60 days, the deadline of which may be extended by mutual agreement of the parties 4. Lifting of the naval blockade within 30 days and withdrawal of American troops from vicinity of Iran 5. Opening of the Strait of Hormuz by Iran within 30 days 6. A pledge of a $300 billion reconstruction program for Iran upon the signing of the Final Deal 7. Removal of primary and secondary sanctions on Iran according to a schedule, if a Final Deal is reached 8. Freezing of Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the United States not tightening sanctions during negotiations 9. Temporary lifting of sanctions on Iranian oil and petrochemicals 10. The United States will gradually release frozen Iranian assets if negotiations make progress I cannot say US unconditionally surrendered as there a few terms they will need to work through but it’s pretty f’ing close as they agreed to everyone of Irans terms. (If only they didn’t listen to Israel and agreed to the peace terms from Oman)

That’s a fair point but let’s look at his track record. He became supreme ruler on June 4th 1989 until his death on Feb 28, 2026 which is 36 years and 8 months. In that time, he maintained the fatwa and kept his word. (Track records do matter) Iran has never launched a direct preemptive attacked against israel ever yet the other party cannot say the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter (I’ll stop here as I do not feel like going back and forth)

Come on, you are smarter than that. Iran had a religious ruling that they would not have any nuclear weapons. In Us/Israel infinite wisdom, they killed the one person preventing the country from acquiring them. Very intelligent! No - this war started Feb 28 as Iran exercised article 51 of the UN charter. You can maybe go back when Israel initially attacked on June 13th and cowardly cried for help. I love how you conveniently left out those 2 dates and focused on the propaganda from Israel.

Can you also admit the most moral army Israel is just as bad? They are also building military facilities near schools and hospitals. (Btw, Iran struck all 3 of these military targets) The HaKirya (Tel Aviv): The central headquarters for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Ministry of Defense sits in downtown Tel Aviv, surrounded by high-rises, malls, and transit hubs. Naval Headquarters (Haifa): The main naval command center is located in a dense metropolitan area, directly across from residential zones and a major hospital. Border Outposts: Numerous tactical bases and security outposts sit directly adjacent to civilian towns and agricultural settlements.

Of course that’s what they will say to justify their actions. You see how the media loves spreading fake news. As long as it makes you feel good murdering 165+ kids.

He was referring to the Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary which US targeted (165+ kids murdered) and was NOT used as a human shield. I was correcting him by saying it has been an elementary school for the last decade.

Do you just constantly make shit up?- SMH. You don’t have to regurgitate US /Israel propaganda and a one minute google search would provide you the facts. The Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary school has been in that exact location for about 10 years.

I would really appreciate your honest feedback on the following questions as I am puzzled: U.S. intelligence agencies reportedly warned that aggressive military action and regime-change efforts against Iran were unlikely to collapse the government. Israel advocated an an approach, including support for dissidents and strikes targeting senior leadership including supreme leader and then they will overthrow the government and take over the country. (Something you would see in the moves) Trump aligned with Israel despite those warnings from his own intelligence. I see this as prioritizing Israel input over U.S. intelligence consensus which has consistently been wrong at every step of the way. 1. How can you be MAGA when the priority is not America but Israel with advice that is consistently wrong and one sided 2. Since Israel consistently fails in military operations, why continue to align with them? 3. Even in the ground invasions in Iran, Israel never agreed to put boots on the ground and let Americans to do the dirty work. if the tables were turned, we would consider our government as cowards and sellouts. It’s exactly why we want nothing to do with any foreign actors in our country.

It took some time but trump finally capitulated to Irans demand that the Uranium will stay in Iran. Am I allowed to say that US unconditionally surrendered to each and every one of Irans terms? - you guys all laughed at me when I told you this would happen. “You go in and take it out” - Nethanyahu on Iran enriched uranium

Israel is going on a temper tantrum and intensifying strikes on Lebanon (blanket striking civilians) to Sabotage the peace deal. Joe Kent called out exactly what Israel will try to do. Trump really needs to lay down the law and put his foot down with them to give peace a chance. https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/2041659572763464002/video/1?s=46

Qatar is offering Iran $12 billion the moment they sign. Iran is getting a signing bonus called a humanitarian loan (Obama released $1.7B in comparison and @cubsfan was saying it was a bad deal) Obama discussing JCPOA: https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2054651335207755833/video/1?s=46

Once the deal gets officially ratified along with guarantees provided by China - Iran will become a regional superpower. I’ll have to do the calculations of the additional cash coming into the country without sanctions + along with maritime service fees - it will be very significant! The people of Iran will be the big winners! Latest update: (sorry for the caps) -IRAN WILL BE ABLE TO CHARGE A FEE IN HORMUZ -WILL HAVE SANCTIONS LIFTED ON THE SALE OF THEIR OIL -WILL HAVE BILLIONS UNFROZEN -THE WAR IN LEBANON WILL END In return: -Iran WILL MAKE PROMISES TO CONCEDE ON THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM -REMOVE THEIR ENRICHED URANIUM IN A FUTURE AGREEMENT

I agree, that was over the top and uncalled for. My bad! I will start to reduce time spent on the politics thread going forward.

It’s not my data but polling in Israel Here are the actual links, there is a lot more if you use ChatGPT, Grok or a basic google search. I just wanted to open everyone’s eyes on what Israel truly is. (I am sharing the dirt that Israelis does not want to get out) https://en.idi.org.il/articles/60357 https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans https://mondoweiss.net/2025/07/poll-overwhelming-majority-of-jewish-israelis-share-genocidal-belief-there-are-no-innocent-people-in-gaza/

I was just showing to @Parsad that it’s a broken state with the vast majority of the population lacking any sort of morality and those poll’s prove it. Did you know they use dogs to rape Palestinians? They have a sick fetish with rape. (Please see news reporting below) Btw: How does it feel unconditionally surrendering to Iran? https://x.com/DoubleDownNews/status/2054141474183250322/video/1?s=46

I can keep on going but I’ll stop here: (These percentages are disturbing) IDI (Israeli democracy institute) 79% of Jewish Israelis said they were “not so troubled” or “not at all troubled” by reports of famine and suffering among Palestinians in Gaza (55.6% “not at all,” 23.4% “not so”). Only ~20% were troubled. (Haretz): 82% of Jewish Israelis supported the forced expulsion/transfer of Gaza residents to other countries (54% “very supportive”). 56% supported expelling Arab citizens of Israel. A minority (around 47% in some interpretations) expressed support for highly aggressive scenarios in captured enemy cities, though majorities favored some moral constraints. Other surveys (e.g., Hebrew University) have shown majorities agreeing with statements like “there are no innocents in Gaza,” reflecting a view of collective responsibility or threat perception.

They will come out as the big winners since their economy will be stronger due to the significant influx of toll revenue coming in! - this would offset the sanctions until they are officially removed.