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$KTBA (AT&T 7% Trust Preferred) trading 8.61% YTM only holding is opco Bellsouth debt

I'm indifferent to market price because i am not selling, not even 5 points / 20% higher bc i want the cash flow - just pointing out that they are very cheap seems like most here just like make basher comments lol I was reinvesting for time until hit a soft limit on position size, now happy to share idea

$KTBA has only one asset, the T 7s of '95 which are 6.70 BID for 5mm live on screen, not sure i need a discount for the wrapper, but ok Thats a direct comparison I still think spread vs treasuries is indicative of true hypothetical value - sb like 100, nor 200 which is junk My business model is a decent sized fixed income portfolio spitting cash for me to allocate in after tax profit maximizing special situations Results have been excellent

an investment grade "bond" w 50% upside is more than a little cheap, and again, feel free post some of your own incredible ideas (which I see no evidence of)

Based on the recption here doubt i will post other ideas, thanks. But you should feel free to do so...

I have position limits...have thought about making exception...even just reinvesting coupons

The underlying AT&T bonds cusip 079867AP2 are 6.80 ytm BID on screen for $US 5,000,000 and w $KTBA you can buy 200 bp CHEAPER 50% undervalued on investment grade bond on preferred wrapper is like wet dream AT&T has already tried to buy back bonds, they agree with me...only matter time before they make big premium tender...or not i dont care $KTBA pays fat juicy cash coupon every 6 months Let me know anything you know w same investment characteristics I will buy ALL of them

The most important point here is that I was directionally 100% right on my analysis True that I dont really understand way to optimize this website / message board at 50% undervalued, I think $KTBA is a screaming value

Amateurs talk about maturity dates ....duration here is less than 14 years We are in falling rate environment I could care less about generating a bid i have $1,000,000s cash i need to put to work here and these $KTBA just gush cash at fat yields They are prob ~50% undervalued (fair value almost $30)

It appears you know little of Berkshire and understand even less: "Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years." - Warren Buffett

That fact that it is ridiculously cheap is beyond argument - and is great play on falling rates. some will be smart enough to figure out how to buy it without being spoon-fed, probably not you. Do you even know the difference between maturity and duration? Feel free to keep walking...

All of these fat coupons just *waiting* to be plucked (Bloomberg) -- A key measure of US corporate-bond valuations surged to the highest level in nearly three decades as investors raced to lock in still-elevated yields amid speculation that the Federal Reserve will resume cutting interest rates next month. The extra yield that investors receive for owning investment-grade corporate bonds instead of Treasuries shrunk to just 73 basis points Friday, the lowest since 1998, according to Bloomberg index data...

AI Frenzy The AI frenzy is driving a sharp turnaround in the debt of telecommunications companies, helping to cut the amount of distressed debt by $18 billion since the end of August. “Several companies that were deemed to be overleveraged are seeing their capital structures trade materially tighter because of their participation in the artificial intelligence value chain,” said Randy Raisman, head of US opportunistic credit at Marathon Asset Management. Many telcos have been suffering from a combination of soaring borrowing costs, high leverage and a need for huge capital expenditure to roll out new technologies. However, AI has made fiber assets for high-speed internet and connectivity critical, especially within and between data centers. With networks so costly to build, companies with existing infrastructure have an advantage, making them worthy acquisition targets and boosting their debt prices. It’s a marked reversal from May, when the telecommunications sector was home to some of the biggest and most distressed situations in the credit market. The size of that troubled pile has now shrunk below $49 billion on the back of increased M&A activity. Lumen Technologies is the biggest gainer this year in US high yield bonds while CommScope Holding’s debt has also rallied. Deals include Verizon Communications agreeing to buy rival telecommunications operator Frontier Communications Parent for about $9.6 billion to expand its high-speed internet business. Lumen announced $5 billion of new deals, while T-Mobile partnered up with others to acquire fiber businesses. A security barrier inside a data center in Italy It’s not just telco investors that are benefiting. Struggling chipmaker Intel’s bonds have also jumped on the back of mooted external investment and a deal to make a custom AI chip for Amazon.com. For distressed investors, the telco turnaround is proving to be one of the most significant valuation shifts in recent years and a source of outsize returns. For example, investors were surprised when a struggling CommScope announced a roughly $2 billion asset sale in the summer. It's also seeing increased demand from the construction of data centers. It means telecoms is now sharply outperforming the overall high-yield bond index, according to data from JPMorgan Chase & Co., despite having a default rate, including distressed exchanges, of about 13% in the 12 months through Sept. 3 across junk bonds and loans. To be sure, the sector still has vast pockets of distress, such as Altice Group, but capital-intensive investments in fiber that saddled companies with large debt loads have been vindicated to some degree. Rising market caps are also opening the possibility of raising financing in the equity markets as well as the use of hybrid instruments like convertible bonds. “Telecom companies already are using AI to make themselves more efficient at routing, network maintenance and customer support,” said Mark McCabe, senior research analyst at Obra Capital. Still, “greater efficiencies and further technological developments may dampen any demand windfall for telecom companies in the medium to long term.”

Block of 10,000 KTBA traded 21 today! Cheap! thats an 8.35% vs underlying bonds on 6.50% High Grade telecom vs Lehman Bros, er Goldman Sachs lol Duration can be a good friend in falling rate environment...or if you have long dated liabilities...non cumulative, junk holdco financial floaters...not so much

Underlying bonds trading on a 6.40% ytm, that would place these trust prefs at $28 sure, deserves some discount for complexity but cmon

Did you do the math? Or do you think that asking math questions is a "contribution?" Happy to post fewer ideas in response to snarky responses of limited / no usefulness

Why worry about T dividends when you can buy $KTBA (AT&T/ BellSouth, BBB) 7% '95 Trust Preferred: 8.80% Current Yield, 8.70% Yield to Maturity, 18% discount to $25 par value, sole underlying bond *BBB* BellSouth 7s '95 Cusip: 079867AP2 is trading ~$109 (PREMIUM). AT&T has previously tried to buy back entire issue, now 3rd parties are trying to steal them from retail https://tinyurl.com/3nt74ru4 https://tinyurl.com/ycxdac2x $KTBA pays .875 on 6/1, 12/1 Expert market (full service brokers only) or they would be trading *much* higher

$KTBA (AT&T/ BellSouth, BBB) 7% '95 in USA: 9.3 %CY 9.25%YTM, 24% disc to par value, underlying *BBB* bond BellSouth 7s '95 079867AP2 trades 100. AT&T has previously tried to buy back entire issue, 3rd parties now trying to steal from retail https://tinyurl.com/3nt74ru4 https://tinyurl.com/ycxdac2x Trades in "Expert Market" Full service brokers only / no online, discount brokers

Why worry about T dividends when you can buy $KTBA (AT&T/ BellSouth, BBB) 7% '95 in USA: 10% Current Yield, 10% Yield to Maturity, 30% discount to par value, sole underlying *BBB* bond BellSouth 7s '95 Cusip: 079867AP2 is 100ish bid. AT&T has previously tried to buy back entire issue, 3rd parties are trying to steal from retail https://tinyurl.com/3nt74ru4 https://tinyurl.com/ycxdac2x $KTBA pays .875 on 6/1, 12/1 Expert market, full service brokers only

"PMIR" $825mm NOL shell (p18), 2.1mm shares, sb trading $20+/share based on comps (typically 5-10% nominal NOL) , but "Expert Market" / full service brokers only Lancer Capital / Avram Glazer ($MANU, Tampa Bucs etc) lead investor Happy to discuss - https://d1io3yog0oux5.cloudfront.net/_70d6eb29082d14d5c271e79d3d83f75e/pmigrp/db/224/391/pdf/staples_scan.pdf

KTBA "Bonds" trade into the bid almost every day...you just need to make/advertise the best bid...topping the bid by 1/4 point has v little effect on yield. These traded almost as high as $30 during period of low/no rates. Inexperienced investors can always make an unlimited number of excuses for their own failure to seize opportunities when they present themselves. These are gold.

I had a large stake

Why bother with T dividends when you can buy $KTBA (AT&T/ BellSouth, BBB) 7% '95 in USA: 9.35% Current Yield, 9.35% Yield to Maturity, 25% discount to par value, sole underlying *BBB* bond BellSouth 7s '95 cusip 079867AP2 is 100 bid. AT&T has previously tried to buy back entire issue, 3rd parties are trying to steal from retail https://tinyurl.com/3nt74ru4 https://tinyurl.com/ycxdac2x $KTBA pays .875 on 6/1, 12/1 "Expert Market" only - no discount electronic brokers

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