rohitc99 Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I have question on options and taxes and would appreciate if someone can answer or direct me to the right source for it - If i sell an option at a loss and buy the common on the same stock at the same time in a 401K or similar tax deferred account, does the wash rule apply ? - does the wash rule apply if i sell the option at a loss and buy the common at the same time in a regular brokerage account ? thanks in advance
JBird Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 It appears the answer is yes and yes, and that separate brokerage accounts make no difference. http://www.irs.gov/publications/p550/ch04.html#en_US_2012_publink100010601
merkhet Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 A related question. Let's say I bought SHLD in August. Assume SHLD goes to $100 by November, and I buy 2015 $100 puts on my entire position. What is the earliest date that I can exit my Sears position to avoid paying short-term capital gains? The alternative formulation is as follows: Let's say I bought SHLD in August. Assume SHLD goes to $100 by November. What can I do in order to maintain (most) of my gain and avoid paying short-term capital gains tax?
merkhet Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Found my answer. http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/12/leap-option-held-more-than-12-months-tax-treatment.asp
rohitc99 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Posted September 18, 2013 It appears the answer is yes and yes, and that separate brokerage accounts make no difference. http://www.irs.gov/publications/p550/ch04.html#en_US_2012_publink100010601 thanks Jbird. does it mean that the same rule applies if i sell a put and buy a call on the same stock if i buy a put for 100$ and sell for 80. incur a loss of 20$. at the same time i buy a call for 80$. the wash rule will imply, that i cannot claim the tax loss, but can step up the tax basis for the call to 100$ ? thanks in advance
JBird Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 I'm not a tax expert, I'm just a man with Google. The IRS is using the term "substantially identical" when deciding whether the rule applies. If I had to guess, I'd answer yes and yes.
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