OracleofCarolina Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I hope the Colombia business is where the value lays..it sure was not in Argentina On March 28, 2014, SED International Holdings, Inc. (“SED”) and its wholly owned subsidiary, SED International, Inc., sold all of the outstanding capital stock of Intermaco S.R.L., a limited liability company organized under the laws of Argentina, to individuals in Argentina for a purchase price of $1.00. Intermaco S.R.L. is the indirect subsidiary of SED that operates the company’s distribution business in Argentina. In connection with the transaction, SED also agreed to pay $410,000 to the purchasers’ broker on their behalf, conditioned on SED receiving the benefit of $310,000 in vendor credits. The board of directors of SED determined that it was in the best interests of SED to dispose of the company’s distribution business in Argentina on these terms, as opposed to continuing to operate the business or winding-down and dissolving the business, due to the greater financial losses that would be expected to be incurred in connection with either of these alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Looks like SEDN dropped to 25 cents/share. Could be a great opportunity to get in if one believes in the turn around thesis :D Looks like there were some trades at 0.10 cents/share today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/PGNT/news/Paragon-Technologies-Releases-Chairman-s-Letter-To-Shareholders?id=82716&b=y Looks like it is not over for SEDN yet, I see a glimmer of hope in the letter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deepValue Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I groaned when I read this paragraph in the letter: Paragon has also made its first investment in a property and casualty insurance company. Currently Paragon is in the process of acquiring additional shares as they become available at attractive prices. The security is thinly traded, so at this time Paragon is better served by not disclosing the investment until we have completed acquiring our stake or securities regulations require disclosure. As of May 31, 2014, Paragon’s investment in this insurance company has a cost basis of $127,500 and a market value of $143,000, respectively. Why do so many people want to be exactly like Buffett? I can't imagine that a sub-$10mm market cap P&C insurer is anything short of awful. And his letter might as well read "just whatever Warren might say." Despite his shortcomings, I give Gad some credit for at least trying to be an intelligent investor. Running a business is harder than it looks and it's hard to be your own man when you're in over your head. I'm still not touching the stock, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 While SED is creating havoc and more disclosure is naturally desirable, I'm at least pleased the name of the company isn't "Paragon by Gad" or that he's mounting a huge change in the compensation package! Give the guy credit for getting his hands dirty without expecting the world to fall at his feet. He also hasn't told shareholders that the stock may be wrong for you if you don't agree with him. If he manages to turn SED around and save this thing, and naturally I'm still betting that he can, then it would probably be one hell of a story! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Is this the small cap that you are on the board of? Agree that it will be an incredible story if Gad saves this thing, but he absolutely did "mount a huge change in the compensation package". He has made himself the CEO of each company he's acquired, and taken large salaries for each role. So large, in fact, that he almost certainly makes more money from the CEO pay than he does from his fund management and performance fees. Also, how can they not provide any information to SED shareholders, and then make all these disclosures to PGNT shareholders? Seems a little unethical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 Is this the small cap that you are on the board of? Agree that it will be an incredible story if Gad saves this thing, but he absolutely did "mount a huge change in the compensation package". He has made himself the CEO of each company he's acquired, and taken large salaries for each role. So large, in fact, that he almost certainly makes more money from the CEO pay than he does from his fund management and performance fees. Also, how can they not provide any information to SED shareholders, and then make all these disclosures to PGNT shareholders? Seems a little unethical While the compensation is large compared to his fund...which was a very small fund...based on the size of the company and the scope of the change he's having to undertake to save it, the compensation is low...just like Sardar's was until the turnaround was complete. If Gad gives himself a fat check or starts to take a percentage of intrinsic value, then I'll be happy to criticize him...the reason we tried to take a substantial piece of ownership, but unfortunately could not because of a poison pill in place by previous management. I did not want to get screwed over again on name changes, compensation, voting structure, etc like I was as a former Steak'n Shake shareholder because one of the executives is paranoid of losing control. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sed-international-holdings-announces-funding-203200348.html Still a chance SED survives without bankrupcy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valueyoda Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 What happened to Paragon technologies's website? It seems like to haven't renewed their domain name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 What happened to Paragon technologies's website? It seems like to haven't renewed their domain name. Looks like it was updated. Cheers! http://pgntgroup.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Do you still own SED shares? Curious if you have any thoughts on their current progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 We should find out soon on SED if it is a viable business..according the press release back in July the updated financials should be released this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 10q came out for Paragon....glanced through and did not see anything encouraging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valueyoda Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Sham Gad has been abject failure at allocating capital within the firm. Clearly, he has redemptions, as his ownership stake has dwindled to 12%. Now even the core business is crumbling for 2 quarters in addition to the problems he continues to face at SED International. I am sorry that I had ever heard of him or this company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideMoat Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Looks like they now have some financials... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sed-international-holdings-news-release-183900117.html "For the six month period ended December 31, 2014, consolidated revenues were approximately $69.5 million. Gross margin was $6.0 million, or 8.6% of sales, and the company incurred a net loss of $0.9 million. As of December 31, 2014, shareholders’ equity was a deficit of $6.8 million, compared with a deficit of $5.9 million at June 30, 2014. The Company continues to proactively work to restructure its legacy liabilities, which approximated $17.5 million as of December 31, 2014 of which over $12 million have been settled or subject to settlement agreements at discounts to face value." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Back from the dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/paragon-technologies-announces-results-fiscal-010000577.html?.tsrc=applewf The losses continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valueinvestor82 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Book value declined slightly from Q to Q, albeit from already severely depressed levels thanks to SEDN. I'm curious to see the most recent 6 months of SEDNs filings, and the markets reaction (if one exists) once they catch up with OTC listing requirements and begin trading again. Probably the fact that it's still "half alive" should be net positive to the stock, and therefore accretive to PGNT at least to the tune of several hundred thousand dollars. The breakdown of SEDNs results to US/Latin America makes clear that most (or all) existing value rests in the Columbian business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sed-international-holdings-news-release-212800785.html?.tsrc=applewf Is this a sign of desperation? Or maybe they have an offer but want to see what else might be out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideMoat Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Annual letter from Mr. Gad for Paragon: http://pgntgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2015.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OracleofCarolina Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I didn't even realize that SED International went bankrupt, at least I think that is the company they are referring to. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rubicon-technology-comments-director-nominations-130000690.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideMoat Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 "Involuntary bankruptcy"... currently being litigated, Georgia Northern Bankruptcy Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shalab Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Shareholder letter, pgnt going below book - opportunity to buy ;) http://pgntgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/PGNT-2016-Letter-to-Shareholders.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wachtwoord Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Shareholder letter, pgnt going below book - opportunity to buy ;) http://pgntgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/PGNT-2016-Letter-to-Shareholders.pdf Off topic (partially), but they uploaded their 2016 letter to shareholders in the February 2014 folder? ??? Edit: Correction: they upload everything there: http://pgntgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premfan Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Shareholder letter, pgnt going below book - opportunity to buy ;) http://pgntgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/PGNT-2016-Letter-to-Shareholders.pdf I wrote a decent length post which I deleted because its such a small startup i don't want to indirectly influence anyone's decision making process. That said, i actually want shareholders to win. Where the only winner is Sham currently heres why: 1.) Since Sham become ceo in 2012 shareholder equity has gone from 5.21 million to currently Q1 2016 3.578 million. Yet his salary in 2012 was 110k (combo cash and stock) to 2016 of 150k. 2.) Negative Intrinsic Value and Book Value since 2012. Yet roughly 40 percent increase in yearly salary not including director payments and Sed salary 3.) Announced share buyback authorization last year yet he buys 68.58k shares at 0.85 on 6/4/15 and 67.22k at 0.89 on 6/11/15 for himself before the company shows an operating profit knowing that would increase the share price. He could of finally gave value to his shareholders by buying back shares below IV but he decided to increase his personal stake. Bad PR move. No shares bought back below IV for shareholders. 4.) Choosing to run a proxy on rubicon while owning only 0.1 of stock. This seems like a desperate move and someone struggling to increase earning power of pgnt. Since his biggest investment Sed is supposedly bankrupt ( he earned salary running SED). Only Winner is Sham so far. Good for his family that he has earning power. Full disclosure = no position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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