tol1 Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 If anyone has come across useful industry or other reports on the railroad industry in Northern America, please let me know. Thanks
Cigarbutt Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 Whenever I go back to this topic, I look at: https://www.aar.org/ Every year, they come out with Class I statistics: https://www.aar.org/Documents/Railroad-Statistics.pdf Railways have a great past and great future and will likely remain as a privately owned infrastructure.
IntrinsicEdge Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 The following site has some data: https://public.tableau.com/profile/financial.research.station#!/
rb Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 Whenever I go back to this topic, I look at: https://www.aar.org/ Every year, they come out with Class I statistics: https://www.aar.org/Documents/Railroad-Statistics.pdf Railways have a great past and great future and will likely remain as a privately owned infrastructure. Thanks for posting. I kindof forgot about the quality statistics that AAR puts out. Took another look now. Looks like things haven't been going so well for rails since 2014. I'm not sure their current valuations are justified.
tol1 Posted February 9, 2018 Author Posted February 9, 2018 Whenever I go back to this topic, I look at: https://www.aar.org/ Every year, they come out with Class I statistics: https://www.aar.org/Documents/Railroad-Statistics.pdf Railways have a great past and great future and will likely remain as a privately owned infrastructure. Thanks for posting. I kindof forgot about the quality statistics that AAR puts out. Took another look now. Looks like things haven't been going so well for rails since 2014. I'm not sure their current valuations are justified. Freight revenue per ton-mile has held up actually, but returns have converged. The industry has pricing power, but volumes have gone down materially.
Cigarbutt Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 "Took another look now. Looks like things haven't been going so well for rails since 2014. I'm not sure their current valuations are justified." "Freight revenue per ton-mile has held up actually, but returns have converged. The industry has pricing power, but volumes have gone down materially." and: If you look at CNR PE now, it is in the historical low range. So a firm/industry hit by short term issues with good long term prospects. Value investing? This may belong to a separate thread, but a few comments about CNR: -consistent operating history -leader in efficiency -main transportation alternative for many (inescapable for some) -asset base resulting in very high barriers to entry -long term comparative advantage to other forms of transportation This is not a high level growth company and the capex burden is high. Also, pension liabilities are getting larger. But, if I would go fishing for 10 to 15 years, this stock/industry would be on my target list.
tol1 Posted February 9, 2018 Author Posted February 9, 2018 "Took another look now. Looks like things haven't been going so well for rails since 2014. I'm not sure their current valuations are justified." "Freight revenue per ton-mile has held up actually, but returns have converged. The industry has pricing power, but volumes have gone down materially." and: If you look at CNR PE now, it is in the historical low range. So a firm/industry hit by short term issues with good long term prospects. Value investing? This may belong to a separate thread, but a few comments about CNR: -consistent operating history -leader in efficiency -main transportation alternative for many (inescapable for some) -asset base resulting in very high barriers to entry -long term comparative advantage to other forms of transportation This is not a high level growth company and the capex burden is high. Also, pension liabilities are getting larger. But, if I would go fishing for 10 to 15 years, this stock/industry would be on my target list. Am also digging deeper in the NA railroad space and echo the suggestion to discuss in separate thread.
rb Posted February 9, 2018 Posted February 9, 2018 Freight revenue per ton-mile has held up actually, but returns have converged. The industry has pricing power, but volumes have gone down materially. And their multiples have gone up.
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