Guest kawikaho Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Peter Boockvar, equity strategist at Miller Tabak, points out a lot has changed since the Dow first broke the magical 10,000 barrier in March of 1999. While most other assets have gained value, the Dow is stuck in the mud. Worse yet, we're not even close to break even if you factor in the fact the dollar has lost 25% of its value in the last 10 years, based on the Dollar Index. Here's some of Boockvar's other sobering stats comparing today vs. the first time the Dow cracked 10,000: * Total US debt was $24.6T vs $50.8T today. * The CRB commodity index was at 192.40. Today, it stands at 269 * Gold was at $280. Now, it's hitting all-time highs above $1,060 per ounce. * A barrel of crude oil was $16.44, today it cracked $75 Please, this isn't to stir up another gold debate. It is just some ammo against equity hounds and stock market pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uccmal Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 What this proves is that the classic economic cycle is in full force. Economic Markets Full Employment Stocks peak - risk taking peaks Consumption starts to drop Stocks start to drop Debate about recession Stocks reach bottom Layoffs increase dramatically Bonds rally - stocks stay low Companies report losses Credit dries up Recession for sure Job losses continue Commodities start to rebound Corporate profits rebound stocks start to rebound Somewhere in here gov't spending goes way up. Job losses stop - economic Commodities continue rallying recovery in progress Stocks continue rebound This is about where we are now! The exact order may not be the same but the general gist is. Government and corporate spending on infrastructure is driving commodities very high. Most money is looking for a place to hide. Soon sidelined cash will start looking for a place to go that provides better yields than 0.01%. Government tax revenues will rise lowering the fiscal deficits. This time around everything has been amplified and extended by the asset crash. Dumb value investors start selling too early, and complain that there are no more opportunities - Thats us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prevalou Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 The investment world has gone from underpricing risk to overpricing it. This change has not been minor; the pendulum has covered an extraordinary arc. A few years ago, it would have seemed unthinkable that yields like today’s could have been obtained on good-grade municipal or corporate bonds even while risk-free governments offered near-zero returns on short-term bonds and no better than a pittance on long-terms. When the financial history of this decade is written, it will surely speak of the Internet bubble of the late 1990s and the housing bubble of the early 2000s. But the U.S. Treasury bond bubble of late 2008 may be regarded as almost equally extraordinary. Clinging to cash equivalents or long-term government bonds at present yields is almost certainly a terrible policy if continued for long. Holders of these instruments, of course, have felt increasingly comfortable – in fact, almost smug – in following this policy as financial turmoil has mounted. They regard their judgment confirmed when they hear commentators proclaim “cash is king,” even though that wonderful cash is earning close to nothing and will surely find its purchasing power eroded over time. Berkshire Hathaway annual letter 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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