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  1. You just can't help yourself can you?  Please do yourself a favor and click on your own elections link.  Then expand the results for Wildrose party, PC's and UCP.  Who is the leader for the three parties? 

    https://www.elections.ab.ca/parties-and-candidates/parties/

     

    The WRP and PC's voted to merged into UNITED Conservative Party.  95% of both parties agreed to the merger.  How much tighter do you want?  3.5% of the entire population of Alberta are card carrying UCP members.  It is the largest provincial political party in Canada. 

     

    Some former WRP members have started Alberta Advantage Party (AAP).

    https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/party-founded-by-former-wildrose-members-officially-registered-with-elections-alberta

     

    The Alberta party (AP) is a bunch of former leftest, who now claim they are centrist. 

     

    Tell us again how many conservative parties there are in AB? 

     

    And since you don't think it looks promising for conservatives in AB?  Here is some polling info.  100% odds of UCP winning.  http://alberta.338canada.com/

     

    I think I'll stop now.

     

    Power to the conservatives.

    But if the PC's and the WRP were as tight as believed, they would be 2 fewer choices on the voting card come May. If every one of these voters voted for the UCP, as they say they will, the UCP might well beat the NDP; but we know that survey responders frequently lie, and if those PC and WRP boxes still appear on the voting card .... ???

     

    There's still MANY shades of blue on the voting card; and a conservative is voting for the SHADE of blue, not the COLOUR blue.

    Of course, the spindoctor will swear up and down that isn't true, but until those political parties actually de-register ....

    We still have a gong show.

     

    SD

     

     

    I don't think you understand Alberta (AB) politics very well.  AB had a progressive conservative government for 44 continuous years from 1971-2015.  The NDP won the 2015 election due to a split in the right wing vote between the PC's and the Wildrose party.  Those two parties have since come together under the UCP banner (united conservative party) since the last election.  They are currently polling 2x the NDP and it appears they will win in a landslide.  Since 1993 the NDP had only garnered maximum of 4 of the 83 seats in AB and in the 80's they had a max of 16 seats. 

     

    Even before 1971, the AB government was a right wing populist party called the Social Credit party that governed for 36 continuous years. So basically AB has had a right leaning government for 80 continuous years before 2015.  A remarkable feat. 

     

    The AB election must take place on or before May 31st of this year.  I would say the implications could be far reaching.  AB will  turn to being very pro-business and regain it's economic growth again.  Alberta, if it was it's own country, would rank 9th in the world for GDP per capita.

     

    If the Trudeau Liberals win the Canada election this fall, there will likely be more rumblings from this group. 

     

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/brad-wall-buffalo-project-1.4987354

     

    Canadian voters typically throw an incumbrant out, they don't vote a specific new guy in.

    Hence, Alberta will probably end up with a conservative government.

     

    The sad part is that Alberta's conservative movement is really a 'gong show'.

    8 (AAP, AP, FCPA, PAPA, PC, RPA, UCP, WRP) of the 12 registered political parties running for Alberta's election, are just various brands of conservatism. https://www.elections.ab.ca/parties-and-candidates/parties/

    Makes your head spin  ;D

     

    If this is how 'conservatives' manage 'their' brand, it doesn't look promising for Alberta.

    We just want good governance. Could care less if its the 'comrades', 'libtards', 'tree-huggers', or 'PC's' that do it - just don't screw it up!

     

    Hence the smartest thing Albertas conservatives could do for themselves, is cut throats and toss the bodies down a deep well.

    One brand of soap gentlemen, not eight! 

     

    Obviously not a popular view. But most people would say, 'you get what you deserve'

    Hopefully, sanity prevails ...... and sooner, rather than later.

     

    SD

  2. I don't think you understand Alberta (AB) politics very well.  AB had a progressive conservative government for 44 continuous years from 1971-2015.  The NDP won the 2015 election due to a split in the right wing vote between the PC's and the Wildrose party.  Those two parties have since come together under the UCP banner (united conservative party) since the last election.  They are currently polling 2x the NDP and it appears they will win in a landslide.  Since 1993 the NDP had only garnered maximum of 4 of the 83 seats in AB and in the 80's they had a max of 16 seats. 

     

    Even before 1971, the AB government was a right wing populist party called the Social Credit party that governed for 36 continuous years. So basically AB has had a right leaning government for 80 continuous years before 2015.  A remarkable feat. 

     

    The AB election must take place on or before May 31st of this year.  I would say the implications could be far reaching.  AB will  turn to being very pro-business and regain it's economic growth again.  Alberta, if it was it's own country, would rank 9th in the world for GDP per capita.

     

    If the Trudeau Liberals win the Canada election this fall, there will likely be more rumblings from this group. 

     

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/brad-wall-buffalo-project-1.4987354

     

    Canadian voters typically throw an incumbrant out, they don't vote a specific new guy in.

    Hence, Alberta will probably end up with a conservative government.

     

    The sad part is that Alberta's conservative movement is really a 'gong show'.

    8 (AAP, AP, FCPA, PAPA, PC, RPA, UCP, WRP) of the 12 registered political parties running for Alberta's election, are just various brands of conservatism. https://www.elections.ab.ca/parties-and-candidates/parties/

    Makes your head spin  ;D

     

    If this is how 'conservatives' manage 'their' brand, it doesn't look promising for Alberta.

    We just want good governance. Could care less if its the 'comrades', 'libtards', 'tree-huggers', or 'PC's' that do it - just don't screw it up!

     

    Hence the smartest thing Albertas conservatives could do for themselves, is cut throats and toss the bodies down a deep well.

    One brand of soap gentlemen, not eight! 

     

    Obviously not a popular view. But most people would say, 'you get what you deserve'

    Hopefully, sanity prevails ...... and sooner, rather than later.

     

    SD

  3. Spek, I mostly agree with you, although I look at this from another point of view.

     

    Radical transparency (and idea meritocracy) does not have to equal stress. It works well, but... only within groups that really trust each other and where everyone has internal buyin for it. It can work within a couple - in family or work duo/partnership. It may work within a tightly knit group of maybe up to 5 people. Once you go above that it's tough to have the internal buyin and trust. It becomes a management tool (weapon) that people wield but not necessarily like or support from inside. And then I agree it's a recipe for stress and people either ignoring the tool/method, pretending to adhere/use it or exploiting it for politics/infighting/etc.

     

    In other words, in ideal world this could be a great tool/method. With imperfect humans its applicability seems to be limited.

     

    Radical transparency has nothing to do with stress.  We share many of the same principles in the company that I work for and we also study Ray's Principles. 

     

    There is so much misconception in the comments above it's hard to even start to unwind it.  I would suggest that most people live in an "ideal" world within their head.  Everyone's precious ego gets offended if people question what they believe.  To really understand the topic it requires a deeper understanding of psychology and philosophy.  People of high self esteem, who want to learn, thrive in such an environment, while those who are externally validated (98% of population) can't handle it. 

     

    Dalio is a realist, along the lines of Aristotle.  He understands that our brain (amygdala) have different reactions to sensory input causing a flight or flight reaction that isn't necessary rational (cortex).  When you feel a threat it can flood the brain with chemicals that renders the cortex useless.  In the past this helped with physical threats, but today most threats are psychological.  This explains why facebook is so popular.  The users are addicted to the dopamine hit it gives them daily.  Dalio doesn't give them the fake like button, but the opposite.  So if your self worth is determined by others, which is 98% of the population, you will not enjoy radical transparency. 

     

    And what is stress anyway?  Stress is a disconnect between our thinking and reality.  Your brain thinks the world "should be" this way but in reality it isn't.  When you lock your keys in your car it causes you to stress out because what we want in our head doesn't match the physical world.  Most people are "stressed" out by other people, as crazy as that seems to some (as if you can control them).  All you can control is yourself and your reaction to any circumstance life throws at you.  If you disagree, read "man's search for meaning" by victor frankl.  A psychologist who self admitted himself into a Nazi concentration camp to test the hypothesis.  Quote, "Everything can be taken from a man but one thing; the last of the human freedoms — to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way."  Personal responsibility is the path least chosen. 

     

    So, radical transparency is either a dream or a dread depending on your viewpoint and your level of psychological dependence.  For those who want to know the truth and learn about the world and themselves, they will enjoy it.  If you prefer to live in a delusional state where people say things just to make you feel good, you obviously won't enjoy it. 

     

    Cheers. 

     

  4. Wrong, Buffett has had two 50% drawdowns, peak to trough with Berkshire, I believe.  He has also had many other investments that have done terrible, losing nearly everything.  He has discussed these in his annual reports, take a look. 

     

    Don't lose money is a relative term, not a short term temporary term. 

     

    I think the issue with a lot of deep value investor is that they forget about rule #1 from Buffet (or Graham for that matter) : Don't lose money!

     

    With most of Choe's holding, I see a lot of ways where he can lose money - VRX, RFP and other are very very risky stocks. They may trade below intrinsic value, but there are huge error bars with those intrinsic value estimates. I think WEB had very low losses throughout his career, because he considered the downside much more than Chou does and stayed within a much narrower circle of competence.

  5. I hate to harp on this subject, but if Trump is so detached from reality that he doesn’t understand that instituting a 20% tax on Mexican imports would make Americans, not Mexicans pay for his wall than how dumb is this guy?

     

    it would allow trump to say that mexico is paying for it.  which, i think, is all that he cares about.

     

    I think you will see some serious inflation either over the next four years, or in the ensuing years as a result of some of the policies that are going to be implemented.  Alot of cash is going to flow into assets over the next few years from reduced taxes, repatriation, etc.  Combine this with tariffs on imported goods, increasing national debt due to a lack of tax revenue and increased infrastructure expenditure, and you could see hyper-inflation at some point.  Cheers!

     

    How does it result in inflation? How are Trumps policies different from Japan's. If inflation can be controlled through fiscal policy then why is the global economy stuck in the current funk.  Trumps policies will strengthen the USD but I fail to see how inflation occurs. Thoughts?

  6. Passive will crush active over the long term because of fees.  It is simple mathematics. 

     

    Market returns are a zero sum game.  If the market returns 8% and you return 10%, someone will have to earn 6%, so the net market return is always the average market return.  When you pay 1-2% for active management then you are guaranteed to have low returns relative to the market.  Due to career risk, fund managers don't see outperformance but relative performance. 

     

    How many active managers beat the index over 30 years?  The answer is less than you have fingers on your left hand. 

  7. Look,  I'm not saying Trump is a nice guy.  All the allegations of hurting the small guy in contract disputes should be easy to take to court.  The problem in America is the entitlement attitude. The other guy is responsible for your happiness, whether that is big business,  CEOs, the government etc. If you have something and someone else has a need you are responsible for meeting that need.

     

    Don't you think that there are people who don't have contract disputes with Berkshire? I have spoken with some who do with PCP. This stuff happens. To assume the "little guy" is always the victim is not being intellectually honest. The same can be said for the landlord situation, and the hiring of immigrant workers.  Now, do you really think Trump did all the hiring?  Would Buffett be responsible if one of his companies hired illegal workers? Come on, be realistic. You make it sound like he goes around doing this all the time and just happened to get away with it for years and built a successful business in the process. The Clinton's are lifelong politicians and are now worth 300 million, hmmm, only in America... and perhaps China.

     

    It's so painfully obvious that Hillary is a crook, it isn't even funny. The cattle futures stuff is clear as day. Do you really think she is the most successful cattle trader of all time?

     

    By the way. I would recommend all American vote anyone other than the two clowns at the top.

     

  8. Who said it was insider trading? It doesn't look like insider trading to me but straight up theft.  The broker was taking both sides of the trade and sweeping the winning side of the trade into Hillary's account and the losing side of the trade into another person's account.  This was common back in the 70's. 

     

    LC, the question is whether Donald has done anything illegal?  Donald might be a _____ (fill in the blank), but hasn't done anything illegal like Hillary as far as I know.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not for Donald because he utterly fails to understand the economics of trade, but Hillary is a repeat offender.  She has repeatedly conducted criminal activity and has gotten away with it.  Donald is a tough jerk but he isn't a criminal.  If you have any sense of integrity within yourself you will be able to see the difference. 

  9. Either Hillary is one of the most successful cattle traders of all time or a crook. She has zero integrity.  Didn't even pay taxes on the capital gains until Bill was elected president.

     

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr940527.htm

     

    We're talking about integrity, neither candidate has much. Hillary probably has slightly more.

  10. I always thought he was one of the most shady CEOs on the planet (and have posted that in the past on here), but feel bad for his family.

     

    The corporate governance at CHK was the absolute worst.  No doubt some bad stuff was going to come out.  All one has to do is read the proxy materials.

     

    The best example was in December 2008 when the company purchased an extensive collection of historical maps of the southwest from McClendon for $12.1 million.  Why the company would purchase these from him is an interesting question and an even bigger question is how was the purchase price determined.  Ironically the sale of the "maps" was applied as a credit against costs incurred by McClendon for participating in the "Founders Well Participation Program", a program that allowed the founders (Ward and McClendon) to participate in a 2-1/2% working interest in every well drilled by CHK. 

     

    Behavior like this gives capitalism a bad name. 

     

    I was especially surprised when Lou Simpson joined the BOD in 2011.  I was not, however, surprised to hear of his resignation less than two years later.  He likely didn't agree with the business ethics of the extremely well paid BOD's. 

     

  11. Deflation is not a problem. Debt deflation can be a big problem. They are not the same thing!

    +1. If you ask most people why deflation is bad they give you the same look as if you asked them why they believe in dinosaurs.

     

    I do agree with Cardboard that low oil prices are beginning to be have deeper negative effects. While there's a fair argument that $65 oil is better for the economy than $100 dollar, $33 oil presents a lot of difficulties around the world. At the least, it seems like a good time to cap off the strategic petroleum reserves.

     

    I would love to hear the argument that $65 oil is better for the economy than $33 oil.  Personally, I would prefer $2 oil and so would every other consumer out there, particularly those in the third world.  Would our standard of living increase or decrease with $2 oil?

     

    If I was Yellen, I would immediately contact my Chinese, ECB and Japanese counterparts and mount an operation to prop up the price of oil

     

    Implementing price controls?....  hmmm beside not having the faintest clue as to how a central bank would do this, I wonder if that would make the problem better or worse.  Do we have any other Soviet/Chinese methods to prop up falling oil prices?

  12. In the business realm, what do you think is true, which most everyone believes the opposite?   

     

     

    I believe that profits matter more than cash flow.  I am amazed at the discussions on the forum regarding the total disregard of P/E ratios and book values, as if they don't matter.  CF without profits is a waste of my time.  I'll now return to my bunker as the mud starts to fly. 

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    Great list, "Man's Search for Meaning" is an absolute must read. 

     

    I would also highly recommend "The Six Pillars of Self Esteem" by Nathanial Branden.  I wouldn't hesitate to say that book has had more impact on me that any other book I have ever read, period, full stop... and I read a lot of books every year.  It is an absolute classic.  Another great book is "Born to be Worthless" by Kevin Solomon.  Solomon's book is easier to read and clearly shows how the natural dependency we all begin life with leads to low self esteem. 

     

    Branden's book will definitely make you a better investor as well.  "Often what people consider to be thinking is merely recycling the opinions of others" - Branden.  That is just one quote that made me step back and do a lot of reflection of my own thinking.

  14.  

    By the way last numbers show that american production is still (slowly) declining:

    http://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/monthly/pdf/sec3_3.pdf - look at Aug to Sept.

     

    With number of shale DUCs going to 0 and shale productivity numbers showing a plateauing since pre-middle 2015 in NA and average production prices of new barrels at 60+ in the average, I do not see how what you describe is a sustainable trend at all.

    What has slowed down the decline in NA production is GOM projects (long life) which have been coming online all year long. This is not going to be repeated in 2016 as new projects have all been cancelled due to low prices.

    We have not yet repealed the "the cure for low prices is low prices" law...

     

    Why do people assume that the oil market is going to behave any different since the gas shale revolution.  Perhaps this is a paradigm shift and people are just not accepting the new reality.  I know some consider me a perma bear on oil.  That is not the case.  I have been looking but there is are so few opportunities right now. 

     

    Why do the bulls think an "eventual recovery" in prices is right on the horizon?  The NG market has been in a tailspin since the shale gas revolution took over and today are at record lows.  Why is oil going to be any different than the NG market?  As I have written elsewhere, I was in total denial when the NG market tanked, not to recover for almost a decade.  Until I see something compelling that oil is "different", I will be very, very skeptical. 

  15. Gutsy move by this fund manager.....

     

    "I refuse to let other people do our thinking for us. Also, the decline curve never sleeps."

     

    Investor Letter on Oil

     

    The popular consensus is that the oil market is grossly oversupplied, due to Saudi Arabia’s determination to retain market share at the expense of U.S. “tight oil” producers – a relatively new breed of oil companies drilling in shale, sandstone, and carbonate rock. In this consensus view, the market will remain oversupplied until significant amounts of current production are reduced – a potentially long, painful process.

     

    My view is different. I believe there are fundamental industry trends being ignored that, unless oil prices rise fairly soon, mean the oil market is at risk of sleepwalking into a supply shortage in 2016. In the meantime, the price of oil is unsustainably low and should self-correct fairly soon.

     

    This collapse in oil prices has created egregious mispricings in securities across the capital structures of numerous energy companies. The common stock prices of U.S. exploration and production companies in particular appear the most untethered from conservative appraisals of true value. A number of these firms represent exploitable, once-in-a-decade opportunities for patient investors to compound capital at high rates of return with significantly less risk than extreme levels of volatility might otherwise imply.

     

    I believe a significant and sustained rise in oil prices is inevitable much sooner than consensus. Massive cutbacks to drilling programs plus natural decline rates across the world’s oilfields may render the industry temporarily unable to increase production enough to control the pace of an increase in oil prices as demand begins to exceed supply.

     

    Oh, and also:

     

    Is it just me, or does the Middle East right now look like a Tom Clancy novel that ends in massive sectarian war?

     

    Because, um, nobody has told the oil market.

     

    The shares of the companies we now own in Tarpon have been extremely volatile. But that same volatility appears to have driven out the vast majority of institutional investors, who because of clients far less patient than you all, are doing their best to avoid the sector entirely. This has temporarily left us with a large, exploitable advantage over some of the biggest investors in the world.

     

    I believe the odds we have on our side right now are the most favorable we have seen in any area of the stock market since late 2008. As a result, Tarpon is now entirely focused on this opportunity. I have deliberately chosen to concentrate our efforts and capital here. We are, effectively, all-in on U.S. energy companies, and this is somewhat of an unexpected and dramatic shift in our holdings.

     

    I’m hoping the rest of this letter will help explain why.

     

    Well, good luck on his call but doing this with 100% of a portfolio is probably insane even if he turns out to be right. It's one thing if it's your own money, but managing on behalf of others is a different story. At least he's upfront about it so people who are uncomfortable can get out if they want.

     

    Huge gutsy move by this guy.  Here are some facts that don't support his view of the world, particularly the supply situation.  The world neither knows nor cares what we think or what we think "should" happen. 

     

    1) Iraq, the fastest-growing producer within the 12-nation group, loaded as many as 10 tankers in the past several weeks to deliver crude to U.S. ports in November, ship-tracking and charters compiled by Bloomberg show. Assuming they arrive as scheduled, the 19 million barrels being hauled would mark the biggest monthly influx from Iraq since June 2012, according to Energy Information Administration figures. (see Iraq crude import graph below)

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-11/opec-challenges-shale-afresh-as-iraq-crude-floods-gulf-of-mexico

     

    2) This will hit the market at a time when US storage is bulging and US production is no longer declining.  Going long here, when a flood of supply is hitting the market is a gutsy move.  (see graph below)

     

    3) Supply is now cheap and plentiful.  North Dakota has 1000 wells drilled but not frac'd ready to be turned on.  New record.  This will keep a hard ceiling on oil prices going forward. 

     

    https://bakken.com/news/id/248095/north-dakota-oil-well-backlog-eclipses-1000-for-first-time/

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  16. I think Kevin was just saying that the purchase at 3x book doesn't go onto the balance sheet at 1x book, but instead, still at 3x book, with goodwill included.  In the first case, we could make an argument that a purchase above book would mean Berkshire's P/B should inflate the more of those acquisitions are made, which I believe was what Kevin was criticizing.  In contrast, when it enters with goodwill, we only have the argument you just made (it was worth more) or what Kevin said, that applies to many acquisitions (such as Geico), that the corresponding value of the company is worth multiples of the original purchase price because of internal growth (i.e., creation of additional goodwill not found on the balance sheet).

     

    You are exactly right. 

  17. All this talk about float, deferred taxes etc is useless. You wont get any more than 1.5x-1.6xBook for Berkshire.

     

    Which people are interested in buying shares of Berkshire? - Value investors like the people on this board will buy Berkshire.

    How much will these people pay for the shares? - They will pay a little bit more than the share buyback price.

     

    When Buffett set share buybacks to 1.2xBook. He put a floor under the stock but HE ALSO PUT A CELING.

     

    How many of you will pay more than 1.5xBook for Berkshire when the buybacks are at 1.2x?  - NONE.

     

    How will you get more than 1.5x-1.6xBook? - It will happen when Warren Buffett increases the buyback price to 1.3x Book.

     

    Have you considered the possibility that the buyback level will march upward? What if it marches to 1.5x in 10 years? Berkshire paid close to 3x b/v for Precision castparts. A few more deals like that and I'd be willing to pay up to "only" 1.5x.

     

    The accounting doesn't work that way.  Book values are not accretive.  You don't "average up".  While Berkshire paid 3x BV for precision castparts, that transaction will be carried on Berkshire's books at 1x book value, so in a sense it brings down the premium of how much you would be willing to pay for BRK in excess of book value, not the other way around.  It will take years and billions in reinvestment for precision castparts to every be worth a multiple to what Berkshire paid for it. 

     

    BRK's book value will only march upward to the extent that existing businesses retain earnings and earn a return in excess of the cost of capital on incremental capital employed. 

  18. Give it up guys, Jurgis is not going to get it.

     

    Lets allow Milton Friedman have a try with Jurgis.

     

     

    I'm not buying his philosophy of selflessness for one second.  He claims the moral high ground but his philosophy at its root is morally bankrupt.  I would like to know why he feels that he (or employees) have a mortgage on another persons life (and resources)?  Why are business owners responsible for meeting their own needs while others are not responsible for meeting theirs?  So, besides meeting the needs of employees, is it also our responsibility to meet the needs of everyone we know?  Are business owners responsible for meeting their own needs or or is this someone else’s responsibility? What are the responsibilities of others, if any, in this regard?  Who decides between those who get their needs met and those who have to do the providing? 

     

    Jurgis, just like the pope, promote their philosophy because they believe nirvana is found through self sabotage and self sacrifice.  In the pope's case he promotes it because that is how his needs are met.  The pope would have to get a real job if he couldn't convince millions to sacrifice for him. 

     

    Whenever someone (or country, or religion, or friend, or employee) expects you to sacrifice for them, just smile and realize you are looking at the truly selfish person.  When you say no, the next thing out of their mouth will be, "Don't be so selfish"...  Truly ironic and twisted logic. 

  19.  

    Deflation is not a threat.  Why?  Because first, the vaunted "threats" from deflation are nonsense.  Second, deflation ain't gonna happen to any great extent, period.

     

    Let's look at the first issue.  The people who talk about deflation say, "If prices drop, people will stop buying, as they will see that prices will be lower in the future and thus delay purchases."

     

    Really?  You think people really think that way?  In the supermarket, they are holding a loaf of bread in their hands and saying, "Gee, I think I will wait until tomorrow to buy this loaf of bread, as it will be cheaper then!"

     

    This is a classic example of economic theorists who don't understand human nature.  If you are hungry, you buy a loaf of bread.  You are less concerned about the future value of bread than the fact you are hungry.

     

    I have never heard that definition before.  Do you think FFH is investing hundreds of millions based on your theory of deflation?

     

    Prices fall because of increasing supply or declining demand.  The prices for every commodity around the world is falling.  It appears that a lot of people have been putting off purchasing decisions.  I don't see huge investments in O&G, steel mills, precious metals, mines, potash, etc.  In fact, falling prices has caused a decline of incomes.  The aggregate decline in incomes represents a further decline in demand.

     

    Rapidly increasing credit worldwide has kept demand robust, but that appears to be unwinding particularly in China.  Keep in mind that what is required to reverse deflationary pressures is increasing credit, but banks tend to tighten credit when unemployment is rising and asset prices are falling.  I can guarantee you there are a lot of O&G companies that don't want to talk with their banker this fall about the value of a their assets.     

     

    Just as a side note.  I was talking with someone from steel tubing company a couple weeks ago and he was telling me how many companies in Alberta have gone to 3-4 day work weeks, while some have kept 5 day work weeks but at a 50% decrease in pay.  I wonder what the unemployment rate would be in Alberta if these partial layoffs were reported as full time equivalents.  He also expects a lot more to come near the end of the year as people throw on the long awaited recovery.  When I was there this summer, everyone was still in denial about how long the low oil prices would persist. 

     

    So, when CNRL cuts wages 10% across the board, what is the effect on the unemployment rate?  What is the effect on the economy? 

     

    To answer your straw man, yes people will buy bread but why are grain prices at seven year lows, falling over 5% last month, if demand is so inelastic as you seem to think? 

     

    Where is the demand response to falling prices?  To QE infinity and beyond.

  20. Interesting graphic, see below.  Something changed in China this year.  The steel picture looks the same. 

     

    Food prices just saw there biggest one month drop according to the UN.  Every commodity seems to be in free fall, not just oil.

     

    The graph has a truncated scale which gives the impressions that cement is almost zero. Actually cement is only about 75% of the peak of the last 4 years... I would not call this a free fall.

     

    BeerBaron

     

    You are quite right, but cement has been almost straight line down since the start of 2014. 

     

    How much are steel prices down year over year?  That isn't a rhetorical question.  The CRU number from today saw HR coil fall 15/ton week over week, absolutely huge.  New 52 week low.   

     

    If it weren't for trade protectionism, there would be a US steel mill closing every week.  You can pretend like this isn't a big deal, that's fine. 

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/world-food-prices-plunge-seven-low-fao-084147343.html

  21. Interesting graphic, see below.  Something changed in China this year.  The steel picture looks the same. 

     

    Food prices just saw there biggest one month drop according to the UN.  Every commodity seems to be in free fall, not just oil.

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  22. I think most of their low-cost ness is being able to find and develop assets cheaply.  If you ignore their F&D and look at their G&A, it's very low.  Peyto's G&A as a percentage of revenue is around 4%, their peers are around 4-11%.  I think it might be difficult for them to create value by driving down their G&A because it's so low.  To create value, they have to go drill new wells.  Unfortunately, those opportunities will depend on what other people do.  If their competitors oversupply the market and bid too much on land / oil services / etc., then it will be difficult for Peyto to create value.  They'll probably keep finding high-IRR opportunities going forward, but there's a small chance that they won't due to macro conditions outside their control.

     

    Peyto’s low cost is their really operating costs and secondly their F&D costs.  G&A is also low relative to competitors.

     

    2a- I think the late Ken Peak is a cut above Don Gray (and Derren Gee).  The stuff in the Peyto letters about 50+ year lives on their wells is a little... misleading.  The longer life only makes a small impact on the NPV of a well due to the time value of money.  As well, assuming a 50 year life on your wells may turn out to be overly optimistic.

    One of the problems is that horizontal drilling + hydraulic fracturing on low-permeability reservoirs is a new phenomenon.  We have virtually no historical data on how long the well life will be and what the decline curves will be.

     

    This is misleading.  A well with a 50 year life is much more predictable and thus should deserve less of a discount factor all else kept equal.  There are many deep basis wells that have long life production.  There are also lots of wells that have been on production for 50 years, so it might not be so optimistic. 

     

    Decline curves are only one method that has to be used in conjunction with the volume of the reservoir to determine the actual reserves.  Peyto's reserves are much easier to predict because they are not sour and don't water out. 

     

    2b- The metrics that Don Gray used to present in the investor presentations don't fully capture what's important about the business. 

     

    I would love for you to tell this to Don’s face...  Anyway, which metrics were not important?  I am curious. 

     

    In general, I think that every single Canadian oil and gas company has overly-optimistic reserves, including Peyto.  That skews some of Peyto's metrics.  But they don't really explain the reserve estimation shenanigans that go on in Canada.

     

    I would have to disagree here too.  Call Darren and ask him about the reserves. 

     

    Secondly, every year Peyto provides the following in their annual reserve report news release.  Please tell me ONE other company that provides this level of disclosure to their shareholders? 

     

    Our guiding principle at Peyto is “to tell you the business facts that we would want to know if our positions were reversed.” Therefore, each year Peyto analyzes the reserve evaluation in order to answer the most important questions for shareholders:

     

    1. Base Reserves - How did the “base reserves” that were on production at the time of the last reserve report perform during the year, and how did any change in commodity price forecast affect their value?

     

    2. Value Creation - How much value did the 2014 capital investments create, both in current producing reserves and in undeveloped potential?

     

    3. Growth and Income - Are the projected cash flows capable of funding the growing number of undeveloped opportunities and a sustainable dividend stream to shareholders without sacrificing Peyto’s financial flexibility?

     

    4. Risk Assessment – What are the risks associated with the assessment of Peyto’s reserves and the risk of recovering future cashflows from the forecast production streams?

     

    Last year the base reserves were within 1.3% of previous estimates.  Please explain why you seem to think that Peyto’s reserves are overly optimistic?

     

    At the end of the day, they're good operators who have joined the party of selling overpriced shares in secondary offerings.

     

    They are not just good operators, they are laser focused capital allocators.  What did they do to capital spending in 2008 after terrible efficiencies in 2007?  They slashed capital spending, production fell for several years, and when capital efficiencies improved in 2009 they began to increase capex again. 

  23. I am just saying that I do not have as much confidence in authorities as you guys. I do not mind having insurance in place especially when 7 years of money printing and low rates still have not increased inflation.

     

    I am fairly sure if we get a recession or slow down those hedges will be in the money pretty quick. We would not require actual deflation to take place.

     

    YOu are saying you are sure we will not have deflation.

     

    I am saying I am sure that we will have a dlow down at some point and FFH is likely to do well.

     

    Actually only 11% of the notional CPI derivatives require less than 0.5% inflation to pay out. The rest require outright deflation to pay out. So wisdom please make the case of how they get in the money pretty quick. What kind of recession do you need for that to happen? How do we get that kind of a recession given current conditions?

     

    Up to now your argument is basically that the deflation hedges will pay out because you say so.

     

    The people working at AIG had the same mentality.  They too never thought they would never have payout on the CDS they wrote.  For the most part they were right but unfortunately on a mark to market basis they were bankrupt in the meantime, despite many of the contracts expiring worthless. 

     

    So no, you do not need deflation for the hedges to pay out.  It is no different than making money on out of the money stock options or warrants.  The underlying value of the contract has value depending on market perceptions.

     

    FFH didn't hold their CDS position to maturity either.  If they had, they majority of them would have expired worthless too.  They sold the majority of their CDS positions during the meltdown, long before maturity and for a huge profit.  The remaining 5.9 billion notional effectively expired worthless.   

     

    They do not need to hold the deflation hedges to maturity either.  It wouldn't take much of a recession at this time for deflation expectations to change big time. 

  24. A major conflict or maybe even WW3, will happen well before any of this deflation thing plays out.

     

    Then you have the Helicopter Ben theory.

     

    Do you guys really think that world powers will let their economies unravel like Japan did for years without doing anything even if it is dangerous and stupid?

     

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    China is doing a great job of keeping their economy from unraveling.

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