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  1. Maybe it's we who are backwards.

     

    Yeah, no lol

     

    It may be worth considering more than five seconds. We are very, very bad at accurately representing history and our elders with nuance.

     

    In the case of Munger he has hints of many controversial views which you sometimes see outrage about (some cultures work better than others is an example which sets the "bigot alarms" blinking). A strange stance to take when you lap up every word he says in all other areas as if was the epitome of intellectualism. Suddenly his views are all down to age and senility, it couldn't possibly be because he read and reasoned his way to them just like in every other area. Only ideology can shut down an otherwise open mind so completely.

  2. There is blatant hyperbole on both sides. The gist of the situation is that we have real, serious problems but one side paints it out to be basically like Somalia or some other failed state and the other denies it completely. My biggest problem with the whole thing is how overtly undemocratic in spirit this whole debacle has been. There never was a people's majority for anything remotely like the policies we have had.

     

    It's not all bad though. There is plenty of cheap labor and should help in having a higher GDP growth.

     

    I will have to contradict this. GDP growth is not good in and of itself as population growth will make that happen all by itself. Population growth is is very, very bad when it is unplanned and uncontrolled, as evidenced by the substantial pressure on all our infrastructure and government services.

     

    We will not have an increase in GDP/capita because of this - quite the opposite. You can check how stagnant our GDP/capita has been for the last 10 years and except similar numbers or worse going forward, as the labor market value of the immigrants has not improved. Also, the way our labor market is structured it can't accomodate cheap labor and most likely won't for the foreseeable future. Some subsidies or tax cuts won't be nearly enough.

     

    The immigrants/refugees of the last few years are, for the most part, so incredibly far from being profitable to hire in Sweden that we are condemning them to a life of boredom and lack of purpose from the outset. We should probably consider money incentives for some of them to go back.

     

    It can create more diverse culture, innovation etc - like in the US.

     

    Sure, but that would be due to policies similar to those of the US - which we have had for a long time and still have. That is, basically open doors to work here. In fact, we are more open to worker immigration than the US. But that is a completely different policy from the ones that have landed us in this mess.

  3. What's your basis for what you have written about the rule existing about holding at least 10 per cent of the votes on each investee? I can't see that mentioned in what I've linked to prior in this topic. - Perhaps something here just has skipped my attention.

     

    My mistake, the 10% threshold, or any size unlisted, is for tax free dividends and no capital gains if you are not an investment company (näringsbetingade andelar). Some "investment companies" are not actual investment companies in legal terms because they are more focused in 10%+ stakes and/or unlisted companies and thus are more tax efficient without the investment company classification. An example of that is Creades, if this has not changed recently.

  4. By the way, in addition to number of owners (there have precedent setting supreme court rulings that 80 was not enough but 740 was, the real threshold is unknown) you need to have either 10% voting power of listed companies or stocks in unlisted companies to qualify, while also being diversified. An investment company also needs to have holding stocks as its primary function, as opposed to trading (free translation from Swedish legalese). Whatever that means in actuality.

  5. Ratos

    Creades

    Bure

    Latour

    Svolder

    Melker Schörling

    Havsfrun

    Traction

    East Capital Explorer

    Vostok New Ventures

    Vostok Emerging Finance

     

    There were more of them a couple of years ago, but there has been a push towards greater scale in order to get down the expense ratio and thus push down discount to NAV (Öresund is an activist in Svolder for this very reason). Also, some companies have just wound up because their discount to NAV was so consistently high. For a company on that list that can't really bear its costs of being a listed company, look at Havsfrun, which to my knowledge is the last one left of the "mini" investment companies. Maybe they will start popping up again somewhere down the line.

     

    I would say the large opportunity in this space is largely over this time around. Almost none are at a large discount and some of them are even trading at sizable premiums at the moment. When you can copy most of their holdings much cheaper from a tax sheltered account and not give up flexibility, premiums are very hard to argue in favor of.

     

    In some cases however you are buying companies with big unlisted holdings. The last three on the list are Russia focused companies, which makes available investments an ordinary private investor can't make. 

  6. The thought that having field expertise makes you able to have an edge in that sector in the stock market - without insider knowledge - is maybe logical at a glance. In actuality there are few people who can combine that with objectivity (if they see the daily problems, how likely are they to be able to take a bird's eye view?), emotional stability and general knowledge of valuation. And anyhow, as a rule of thumb it is likely piss poor money management to allocate resources back into the sector you depend on for your salary.

  7. I fear people have become desensitised to the behaviour of Trump. I was watching a documentary on Saddam Hussein. The guy was a megalomaniac with an obsession for being a "winner" & building monuments to himself. The point is Trump fits the pattern. The same pattern of behaviour as guys like Erdogan in Turkey and countless others in history. His irrational and cruel persecution of the Central Park five for his own benefit. I see these videos of reporters being abused at his rallies and his encouragement of it. That is absolutely unacceptable in a modern democracy.

     

    Why anyone would vote for such a person is beyond me.

     

    Yes he was a megalomaniac but look what happened when they got rid of him, Gaddafi, and Assad (barely). Those creeps were a system of checks and balances in the region. When they disappeared chaos, ensued.

    Because the US is just like Libya and Syria.

     

    Of course not, don't be silly. It's exactly like Germany in 1933.

  8. It is the same thing, the difference in some cases a matter of degree, not of kind.  Also comparing CNN news to Hannity or O'Reilly  isn't fair. Those two would be the first to admit that they are conservatives on the far right and that their shows are biased as such.  But compare the CNN news reporting to the Fox News news reporting and you will find they generally report on the same stories only one from the left and one from the right.  Are you going to tell me that Chris Wallace isn't a liberal and that you can't tell by the phrases he uses and the expression on his face as he talks about certain things?  It may be hard to notice when you agree with him, but he is coming from a left wing point of view. 

     

    Just look at the post about Biden from me above, do you deny that he got a pass from the media where Dan Quayle did not?  If he were a Republican you would hear about him endlessly, but because he's a Democrat they ignore him and hope no one notices. 

     

    Don't get me wrong I'm not criticizing the bias of any news source.  I don't think it is possible to be unbiased.  But for the most part Fox News is open about its bias and the rest of them claim to have none which is BS.

     

    Again this is hard to see when it coincides completely with your own point of view.  All of these news outlets Fox and CNN alike are biased in favor of the United States in apposed to the Middle East for example, but none of them admit as much.  If you were to see a newscast in Iran or Russia you would notice the bias, but in the US you do not see it (unless you are on the left and you watch Foxnews).

     

    It's truly staggering to me that people can't see this, and this is not unique  to the US. It is the exact same way here, and my guess is the same goes for every Western country. Most major publications are left-of-center including, and most egregiously so, public service broadcasters of both radio and tv. It's written in their statutes that they have to be objective but everybody except the journalists themselves knows they are left-leaning. The journalists vote +80% for the left but have somehow convinced themselves this doesn't show in either reporting, style or news selection. It's mind-blowing to me how this narrative can even sustain itself.

     

    The only explanation I have - which doesn't involve malicious intent - is that leftists are worse at understanding different worldviews than their own and so consequently don't know when they are being biased. Which some of Jonathan Haidt's work seems to confirm.

     

    What Haidt found is that conservatives understand liberals’ moral values better than liberals understand where conservatives are coming from. Worse yet, liberals don’t know what they don’t know; they don’t understand how limited their knowledge of conservative values is.

     

    http://www.aei.org/publication/liberals-or-conservatives-whos-really-close-minded/ 

  9. Just remember, guys, you are not allowed to not accept the outcome of the vote before it has taken place. That is undemocratic as opposed to declaring the election results okay before the voting process is finished, which is clearly the democratic way. As of today it is undemocratic to withhold judgement on the democratic viability of an election until after it is over.

     

    One time a candidate took weeks after the election to accept the results, because it wasn't exactly clear what they were. But that election was totally rigged. The guy who won was selected, not elected. There is no way this one is rigged though, because the correct candidate looks set to win. We're lucky that way this time.

  10. 1) Everyone needs a guaranteed income, no matter who they are.  As much as I hate overt socialism I see no other way. 

     

    I think I agree on minimum income, if only on on pragmatic grounds. Anyhow, it's not inherently a left-wing idea, many libertarians have argued for it on the basis of efficiency and cost. Sadly, I think it is a very long way away from being implemented across the board because of the strong special interests in favor of keeping the current system of transfers in place. They are just about to start some experimenting with it in Finland, however. 

  11. If that is your rebuttal to my post, you failed to understand it. It was not about immigration.

     

    The point is not to argue the effectiveness of one policy versus another either, but rather that you can only go so far with promoting policies with which great swathes of the population disagree. At least if you are going to keep some kind of democratic legitimacy.

     

    Arguing for the "correct" policies is all fine, but implementing them against the people's will is neither smart nor democratic in spirit. Milton Friedman, despite being a staunch libertarian who wanted to repeal just about everything, understood this perfectly well half a century ago. I'm flummoxed by how educated people don't do it now.

     

    The majority of people in the U.S. do not support: building a wall along the Mexican border, banning Muslim immigrants and refugees, and trade protectionism. You are misreading a vocal minority for a majority.

     

    I have never claimed there were a majority behind those issues. You are misreading what I have written.

  12. The ideal situation is that the nation is the tribe and that the citizens, of all races and creeds, all identify as tribal members. You could of course intellectually favor the abandonment of tribalism altogether, but that's never going to happen, on account of human nature.   

     

    That ideal is the exact opposite of the founding principles of the United States. The declaration of independence isn't about feeling like you belong to a tribal collective. It's about the INDIVIDUAL and his inalienable right to live his life as he sees fit, no matter what the tribe says. The right has lost all understanding of this. Trump and Sanders are two sides of the same coin. Sanders thinks your life exists to serve the worse off and Trump thinks your life exists to serve the nation. Who today says that your life belongs to you, and that this freedom to live it is inalienable- even if 99% of people disagree with your choices- even if it means not buying health insurance, or not saving for retirement- even if it means hiring a Mexican?

     

    Well, that depends on the emphasis you put on it. American national identity from my perspective entails being proud of individual liberty and embracing as American people willing to subscribe to that notion. That is a form of tribalism too - one which has made possible individualism. The US originally was the banding together of the free people as free people in an all new tribe.

     

    edit: I should also say that I agree with your point about Trump/Sanders, but I think you failed to grasp what I was saying. It was not a sanctioning of tribalism, it was an argument for widening it to the whole nation from its current state of dividing up the nation in different constituencies with colliding interests. Essentially, it is an acknowledgement of and accomodation to how humans behave throughout history.

  13. The difference is that the U.S. does not have a recent broad influx of immigrants. The number of admitted refugees has been less than 80,000 per year since 2000. Independent studies conclude that there has been a significant decrease in illegal immigration from Mexico since 2009, and the net balance shows a loss of Mexican immigrants since 2005.

     

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/19/more-mexicans-leaving-than-coming-to-the-u-s/

     

    If that is your rebuttal to my post, you failed to understand it. It was not about immigration.

     

    The point is not to argue the effectiveness of one policy versus another either, but rather that you can only go so far with promoting policies with which great swathes of the population disagree. At least if you are going to keep some kind of democratic legitimacy.

     

    Arguing for the "correct" policies is all fine, but implementing them against the people's will is neither smart nor democratic in spirit. Milton Friedman, despite being a staunch libertarian who wanted to repeal just about everything, understood this perfectly well half a century ago. I'm flummoxed by how educated people don't do it now.

  14. The very concept of the state rests on the premise that it favors its own citizens. This contract has been broken in the West and people protesting it is not an expression of white supremacy or nationalism or anything of the sort per se. But it could very well devolve into tribal conflicts if elected officials keep actively undermining their own constituents. The essence of all practical politics is tribalism, it's just that where the tribal lines are drawn will change if the incentives are there. The ideal situation is that the nation is the tribe and that the citizens, of all races and creeds, all identify as tribal members. You could of course intellectually favor the abandonment of tribalism altogether, but that's never going to happen, on account of human nature.   

     

    What primitive thinking.

     

    This whole thread is upper middle-class, college-educated, financially savvy people complaining about having to watch the symptoms of a problem they don't acknowledge or aren't impacted much by. The politics of non-accountability hurt the people on the margin, not you. Use empathy.

     

    Yea, blame the politicians. Blame the government. Blame the bankers. Blame the Chinese, the Mexicans and of course the Muslims.

     

    Blame everyone but yourself for not studying or working hard or smart enough.

    So much for non-accountability...

     

    What a joke.

     

    Let them eat cake!

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