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Mr Pink

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  1. Generally speaking, I will invest in ALMOST anything that is legal....

     

    HOWEVER, there are a few things that I struggle with.

     

    One clear "NO GO" for me is most "for profit" education.  Some of these companies are legit and do good for their students and society as a whole.  HOWEVER, a good chunk of them, perhaps a majority, are simply lying scamsters.  They are a curse on society, a burden on their students & graduates, and serve to enrich nobody other than senior level management.  These are the places that are running diploma mills, places where credits don't transfer, students don't learn, graduates don't get jobs.  Management is producing fraudulent sales brochures and fraudulent statistics for accreditation & regulators.  Simply a scam to transfer wealth from the government to the senior level management.  Students & graduates get caught in the middle.

     

    For example, tobacco & cigarette companies.  The product they sell is detrimental to people's health and society.  HOWEVER, it is a legal product and it's risks are well known and understood.

     

    Multi-level Marketing MLM is another difficult area.  These things are largely frauds.

     

    I would also posit that if you are invested in a company that you find out is doing something fraudulent & illegal, you've got an obligation to get out and NOT profit from their misdeeds.

     

    With those caveats, as long as everything is disclosed and above board, I have no problem investing in companies that charge very high interest (buy here, pay here auto lots), credit cards, defense companies, gun companies, alcohol companies, gambling & casinos.

     

    Different things for different folks.

     

     

    I think there is a lot to be said for assuming that adults can make their own decisions vs. many traditional definitions on this topic - although there are a lot of cases/examples that give me pause with this boundary as well.  But I tend to agree that companies which harm their customers without real knowledgeable consent are especially problematic. 

     

    I'd be curious if anyone has thoughts on the geographic part of the question.  This may not come up for a lot of people but are there geographies that you would not feel comfortable investing in for a definable reason (apart from legal reasons)?

  2. I presume people on this board have been asked from time to time whether they invest ethically.  I'd be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on where they would draw their lines on investment ethics.  If anyone has an all encompassing acid test - that'd be interesting - but in the absence of that - I'd be curious to hear from anyone:

     

    What industry/business is just barely acceptable to  invest in?  Which one is barely unacceptable?  What would be the criteria for that decision?

    Same question for geography: which country would be barely OK vs. just over the line?

     

    In both cases - this would be for a passive shareholding in a publicly traded company.  You feel the investment is potentially stellar but not life changing.  Your investment would not meaningfully change the businesses cost of capital.

     

    Appreciate anyone's thoughts on the topic

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