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  1. 12 hours ago, thepupil said:
    • 97% voted against divvy in 2014 for a reason (tax inefficiency vs buyback, desire to have WEB retain/reinvest earnings). 
    • Berkshire's been close to 100% payout ratio on operating earnings w/ some px sensitivity but $28B in 2021 of buybacks isn't half bad, capital return is robust. buyback is same as divvy, but better tax efficiency
    • now net buyer of equities and balance sheet is significantly less lazy (Y purchase, big energy buys, etc)
    • Berkshire has returned 14.8% / yr over last decade (+0.5% vs SPX), 13.8% over 5 (+0.5%), 16.9% over 3 (+0.5%), 13.6% over 1 (+13%). And you think it's still undervalued so fundamental intrinsic value growth has been even better(assuming you're right). In what world is that a "bad investment"?
    • all seems well. 

     

     

    I think the tax efficiency of buybacks over dividends, while real, is vastly overestimated.  We can get into it if you'd like.

    2014 is very different from 2022.  At the end of the day, an investment made for its intrinsic value is good if you are happy with what you get if all markets were closed.  And that eventually requires a dividend.  

     

    An undervalued to intrinsic value Berkshire is a bad investment in the world where I am right and the marginal buyer and marginal seller do not agree that I am right.  A dividend is a forcing mechanism, enabling the person who is actually right to reap his rewards in due time.  Repurchases are only a forcing mechanism insofar as there is a real and definite plan to eventually begin dividends, by increasing the dividendable amount per share.  

     

    I don't really care if there are no dividends for a decade, just that there eventually will be one.  

  2. Yeah, I guess.  I’d like to see more in the way of a tender.  Or they can dividend out inverse warrants to shareholders to put the stock back on them, or sell the puts.  And I think they could have started buying back much sooner and more aggressively, but were hoping for an opportunity to make a big acquisition.  
     

    Fine if they want to err on the side of caution, but that’s why I’d like to see a dividend.  There are a lot of people out there who reasonably see this as worth a lot more than the price, and I don’t think that gap is going to be closed with buybacks at the level they are comfortable with.  Dividends are a good way of ensuring that intrinsic value is actually realized over time, whatever happens to the price. 
     

    Dividends are the only way a strategy of “I don’t care about the price, so long as I can keep buying it for less than it is worth” actually ever works out.

     

    And it’s pretty clear the value of the marginal dollar to them really is very low, and in this case that marginal dollar is earning interest that is unnecessarily being double taxed.  

  3. 1 hour ago, Gregmal said:

    To me the biggest thing with these is you have to eliminate the idea that you're trading; you are making an investment. So with that said, you need to make sure your work is tip top. And then forget about this whole notion of "effecting the market price". If its illiquid and you think its worth 2-3x more, I could care less about moving the market, I want to accumulate the desired position, and over a specific accumulation period, get in at or below the highest acceptable purchase price. 

     

    I think that's probably the right attitude, but without a lot of market makers energetically balancing supply and demand, it's rather possible you buy enough to move the market and plenty of people you would have sold to on the way haven't been paying attention to their portfolio to enter an offer, and come to remember and do so over a period of days as the price goes up a bit.  

     

    If people are willing to sell at X, good chance a sizable number are willing to sell well below the prices you would end up buying at if you bought in too quickly.

     

    Presently trying to balance this with AMBC warrants, which have shockingly low volume for a pretty well-known situation. (500 shares traded today, a few thousand last Friday). 

  4. the sources of Berkshire's "synergetic value", what makes it worth more than the sum of its parts are:

     

    1)  It can acquire businesses for cheap using its stock, in ways few other corporations can since selling for stock isn't a realization event.  Doesn't work with companies most people wouldn't feel comfortable having their entire net worth invested in, forcing some degree of realization.  So Berkshire can buy for call it 25-30 percent less than other bidders, and that doesn't include the value of remaining involved if you so choose.  

     

    2)  Cash flow is worth as much as the best reinvestment opportunity you have, with the highest incremental ROE.  Theoretically, you can just dividend your real earnings and the cash will find itself put to its best use.  In practice, there's a 23.8 percent tax on getting money out the door and a venture fund or investment banker involved in matching that dollar with its best corporate use.  This might cost 20 percent of what you have left over.  Which comes to a ~40 percent tax.  the work the banker and funds do might mean the allocation is a little better than what Berkshire can accomplish on average, but chances are you don't get to invest in Sequoia or at IPO price either.  

     

    3)  A culture of spending money wisely, in shareholders' best interest, with management well-aligned, or at least acting and behaving like they are well-aligned.  You just don't get this with most other businesses, and have to suffer shared ownership with index funds run by people who actively hate shareholders.  A relatively engaged shareholder base and a management who thinks there is a relatively engaged shareholder base is worth a lot.  

     

    4)  The science of how and why Berkshire works isn't a secret, but they are good at herding cats and other people are not.  How exactly are the managers of the businesses under the umbrella compensated?  How exactly do you reallocate cash from one to another?  Etc.  A lot to be had from doing this for decades, and it's not like you can find the answers to these questions online.  Probably only a few people that actually know.  

     

    Each of these constitute durable sources of excess return that probably scale until Berkshire is an order of magnitude bigger than it already is.  And none of them require any better-than-market investing prowess, though it is likely that the people investing at Berkshire are better than average, so you would benefit from that as well.  Question is the extent to which this is priced in.  At 1.5x price-to-book, I think the answer is "nowhere near fully".  After all, a lot of the book value is considerably below replacement cost.  Hard to compare it to the market-weighted median or mean S&P 500 price-to-book given tech companies with balance sheets that do not reflect the very real assets created by their research, development, and engineering -- and other accounting oddities.  

     

    THAT SAID- if it's going to be perpetually cheaper than it is worth, it has to pay a dividend (and not just a token) or commit to repurchasing itself when it is less than fully priced.  Otherwise going to be a bad investment.  

     

  5. Yeah I agree that it ought to be a great business.  In New York at least, cabs are actually pretty good competition.  They're cheaper, usually more comfortable, and more convenient about 30-40 percent of the time.  And with Curb have their own app too.  In other cities this probably isn't the case to the same extent, but major cab routes (to/from airport) probably does have a fair bit of competition that puts a limit on how profitable Uber can be.  For local players, the entry and exit costs are very low.  

     

    This is all by way of suggestion that the total market is probably quite a bit smaller than many people think (still leaves plenty of room for it to be a great business), and even if it's a duopoly there's enough threat of competition for a big enough chunk of its revenue that would deprive them of monopoly- or duopoly-like profits.  

     

    But I agree it's a plausible multibagger.

     

    It's up considerably from when I bought, but Rivian was awfully cheap for a while, with a close to zero (and plausibly below zero) enterprise value not even considering the value of whatever was wrought from all the money burned to date.  Which felt like a good option on a CEO with almost all of his net worth in the company investing $20bn judiciously enough to deliver something real.  No reason it can't be a tenth as valuable as Tesla.  

     

    There are several hardware despacs with real revenue, good gross profits, and 50-100 percent growth that have a plausible shot at having a good share of a huge market, but at this point probably require a little too much tech due diligence to warrant a large position.

     

     

  6. 1 hour ago, Gregmal said:

    I keep coming back to UBER and being awed by the optionality and potential. Market cap ain’t huge and valuation is ok. 

     

    Yeah, and it may be passé to complain about this at this point but I just don't get how an operation like Uber so reliably fails to make a lot of money this far into the game.  Everything tells you that they ought to be making a lot of money: the dominant player in a market with not insignificant network effects collecting the spread in solving a non-trivial problem of coordination and matching.  And so much of the money-losing competition forcing non-economically low prices are long dead.  

     

    And yet...  I would be into it if large corporate activism wasn't dead in the water, and if wasn't already priced as if it is going to start doing things well.  

     

    Now I haven't studied the business in any remarkable detail and am very open to the idea that there's a wonderful case, and leadership has a great plan for the next few years.  But it irks me they don't make money.  Just like it irks me that Snapchat, which collects gobs of revenue from its mobile app used by million does not make money (or makes very little money).  

  7. On 5/15/2022 at 5:39 PM, Gregmal said:

    I mean really think about who and what is driving this “rates” discussion? Then ask yourself how raising rates fixes anything? The majority of the “inflation” is absolutely fixable and the result of stupidity. Energy, already discussed…stop being hostile and pushing this climate bullshit. Consumer products…thanks for finally ending the mask and vaccine mandates. That’s correcting now. Housing, again, fix the supply chain. Cars? For real? We re having trouble producing cars! GTFO. Rates have nothing to do with fixing these things. So why are people pushing for them? Again, who’s pushing for them? Look around. The “inflation” started COVID crap + like 6-12 months after. It’ll probably end 6-12 months after the shit stops which IMO started around February or March. And just like COVID itself, the answer is to just suck it up and deal with it, not start letting the bureaucrats interfere with things.

     

    I'll quote this one, but in response to several of your points.  

     

    The problem with inflation is that unstable price levels foul up business planning and bookkeeping, making it rather hard to tell how much value your business is creating.  And as far as this is concerned the situation is more troubling than just an 8 percent headline rate.  Since the beginning of the pandemic used car prices are up a little over percent whereas new car prices are up about 14 percent.  But the observed prices of used cars are firm and fixed whereas the MSRP isn't actually a real offer you can accept.  So inflation measured in prices you can actually buy at today is probably appreciably higher across the board.  

     

    The problem with low rates is that considerably negative real interest rates are very bad and encourage the destruction of value, and over a period of time inculcate bad psychological habits.  I think it's bad for real rates to be negative period, but it is strange and unusual for them to be so far negative for as long as they have been.  We will see but I don't think this is a problem that corrects itself without nominal rates rising to a point that real rates are positive enough for long enough, and absent that the problem will compound itself.  

     

    Nor do I think bringing rates up enough will destroy the economy, just considerable parts of the economy that deserve destruction.  Coinbase said in its recent presentation to shareholders, "we may make a profit when revenues are high, and we may lose money when revenues are low, but our goal is to roughly operate the company at breakeven, smoothed out over time, for the time being."  This is the sort of thing that has got to go, and will go when non-dilutive access to further sources of wasteful spending become a tad bit too expensive.  Temporarily rather high, and over a decade moderately elevated nominal interest rates will not destroy actually and intentionally profitable concerns, nor allow the rich and well-connected to grab productive assets on the cheap.  

     

    I do not want economic destruction, just want a sane monetary and corporate order.  

     

    There are also supply-side problems, yes; and positive real rates and stable price levels help there as well.  It is hard to invest in stuff when you do not know how much money you are making.  It is hard to invest in stuff when ESG schoolmarms might come and confiscate or cause substantial impairment to your assets a few years down the line.  It is hard to invest in stuff when you are going out of your way not to give good jobs to certain races.  But considerably easier to do a lot of this stuff when money is not cheap.  

     

  8. Yea I'm not hating on everyone in the field...but the truth is that too many finance folks are too full of themselves(or just in general take themselves way too seriously) and many think they are hot shit because of how much money they make, but the truth is they dont deserve to make the money they do and its not hard doing what they do.

     

    Look at this guy Keith....chills in his basement and has fun with it. Plenty of others have mentioned similar things...I think(although I wasnt around for those days) ERICOPOLY even talked about how he'd spend some time researching and then just go for walks on the beach...I cant say I do things much differently. Its a shame folks just dont know any better and therein lies the problem.....the system is setup so that people are not properly educated in matters relating to financial markets and investing. And I can take some good guesses as to why that is....

     

    Shame but our laws are designed to make sure people don't learn to steward their money and think about spending and investing.  So much of our wealth is locked up so that we can't spend it until we are frail and weak, and the rules are such that this all has to be professionally managed.  People would be better off if they could use all the money they are owed (in retirement plans, pensions, and future entitlements) to pay off their mortgages and invest what they have left over carefully.  Fewer people would own stocks, but who cares?  The people with enough money leftover after paying down a house and other expenses can take the time to learn a little about investing in stocks or indices; or learn a little about actually identifying honest investment advisors.  Prices would be better and make more sense if people actually had to shop for things with their own money.  This applies to assets and goods as well.  You think maybe bandaids cost $500 at a hospital because no one -- absolutely no one, at literally any point of the supply chain -- is spending anything with their own money, and shopping around as a result? 

     

    It's an outrage.

  9. Just have to hope inflation doesn't run hot.

     

    Sure.  At the same time a genuinely risk-free premium of 2.5 percent to market rates is an exceptional deal.  That $10,000 every year -- $20,000 if you're married -- is a sizable chunk of aftertax savings for a lot of people, and knowing what you put in will double by the time you retire lets you put much more of everything else in investments a heck of a lot more attractive than IG bonds without undertaking any additional risk.  It's also especially attractive as a call option on current yields, useful when the secular decline in long-term rates has lasted 40 years unperturbed by the various crises in between. 

     

     

  10. TreasuryDirect.  Nominally, they are 30-year Treasuries with abysmal coupons: 10bps for bonds issued since at least 2015, and even that only because they probably run into floating point errors if they paid any less.  They also can't be sold, and incur a penalty if redeemed within 5 years.  But!

     

    Treasury guarantees that for an electronic EE Bond with a June 2003 or later issue date, after 20 years, the redemption (cash-in) value will be at least twice the purchase price of the bond.  If the redemption (cash-in) value is not at least twice the purchase price of the electronic bond as a result of applying the fixed rate of interest for those 20 years, Treasury will make a one-time adjustment at the 20-year anniversary of the bond's issue date to make up the difference.

     

    Individuals are limited to a maximum purchase of $10,000 every calendar year.  That's a government-guaranteed yield of 3.5 percent over 20 years, sold at a 40 percent discount to fair value, and yielding a 2.5 percent premium to the equivalent duration Treasury bond.  (i) Purchase $10,000 of Series EE Savings Bonds for 20 years;  (ii) thereafter, recycle half of each maturing bond to satisfy that year's purchase limit; (iii) use the remaining proceeds to fund your Roth contributions for the rest of time (which contributions will be capped at $10,000 by then).  Start buying these for kids when they are born and they will be vested into their own $10,000 universal basic income by the time they grow up. 

  11. Continuing the convo from the Q2 thread...  A somewhat interesting, if obvious, fact about repurchasing shares at a discount: further repurchasing at a similar price becomes relatively more attractive. 

     

    There's also a lifecycle to investing.  I don't know what the weighted average age of Berkshire investors ex-Buffet is (that is, the expected age of the owner of a randomly selected share outstanding), but I would guess it's a lot higher than the market average, which is already quite high, and the company might be abstaining from repurchasing now in contemplation of a secular increase in natural sellers of its stock.  My guess is that any hint of an increase in capital gains taxes would be a catalyst here, given how substantial unrealized gains on this company must be. 

     

     

  12. But, Berkshire has historically nevertheless been extremely tax efficient and made the absolute best of a “suboptimal” situation. Berkshire is not an actively traded equity portfolio. They don’t need to sell to make new investments and have deferred like $30B of stock related taxes and $30B+ of taxes as it relates to BNSF and BE, so Berkshire in practice pays a very low cash tax rate and has had more than adequate capital to make new investments without having to sell highly appreciated stock. As noted by others, Berkshire has found ways to convert highly appreciated stock to wholly owned businesses (Duracell, Phillips, Washington Post)

     

    For better and worse, Berkshire doesn’t really sell winners, so it’s not that big of a problem, and the DTL (as pointed out by the chairman himself) has very low present value; it’s an interest free loan.

     

    Furthermore, by retaining all capital Berkshire is very tax efficient vehicle for holding outside of a tax advantaged retirement account , particularly for those of us who have state taxes to pay on gains/ dividends and partocularly if Biden gets rid of the advantage of long term cap gains for high earners. Also I believe  insurance companies do pay lower rates on dividends; I have read this in the past but can’t find a source now.

     

    In sum, I don’t think Berkshire trades at a discount  because of deferred tax related to equities. I don’t think that’s “the problem”.

     

    How would we go about studying whether holding equities beyond what's needed for insurance capital in a corporation leads to some or much of the discount?  I agree that it doesn't feel like it does, but I think it follows logically and ultimately informs market prices.  A nice thing about market prices is that they can be set in recognition of some fact about which individual participants themselves are quite unaware.  Many times market prices can be set in recognition of some fact about which individual participants are themselves unaware?

     

    I'm not convinced of anything I've written.  I just feel that it is by definition impossible to be adequately compensated appropriately for the risk of owning companies at prices set between non-corporate taxpayers without an amount of "edge" that isn't possible from holding the kind of portfolio he does forever.  That he doesn't sell doesn't matter, I don't think, since the tax liability accrues anyway.  At best what we can say is that the effect will be mitigated by the dividends received deduction, and so only half of the income from his investments is subject to the double tax -- but that really relies on an investment realizing its value primarily through dividends.

     

    If Berkshire were actually like a mutual fund, as it is sometimes misrepresented, the C-corp would obviously be a bad choice - as Charlie has pointed out over the years.  But Berkshire is an insurance-focused conglomerate, one of the largest enterprises in the world - not an investment partnership or fund.

     

    There are a lot of great sections to that 1986 letter, I enjoyed re-reading it as Buffett was a lot more talkative about important things back then.  (you can skip the section on selling encyclopedias to keep it interesting.  "5 cents per page!")

     

    As for the "why does Berkshire hold all these stocks inside a corporation?" question and the currently popular "why does Berkshire hold so much excess capital in cash equivalents?" question - he addresses them in 1986 pretty clearly:

     

    Marketable Securities

     

        During 1986, our insurance companies purchased about $700

    million of tax-exempt bonds, most having a maturity of 8 to 12

    years.  You might think that this commitment indicates a

    considerable enthusiasm for such bonds.  Unfortunately, that’s

    not so: at best, the bonds are mediocre investments.  They simply

    seemed the least objectionable alternative at the time we bought

    them, and still seem so. (Currently liking neither stocks nor

    bonds, I find myself the polar opposite of Mae West as she

    declared: "I like only two kinds of men - foreign and domestic.")

     

        We must, of necessity, hold marketable securities in our

    insurance companies and, as money comes in, we have only five

    directions to go: (1) long-term common stock investments; (2)

    long-term fixed-income securities; (3) medium-term fixed-income

    securities; (4) short-term cash equivalents; and (5) short-term

    arbitrage commitments.

     

    Common stocks, of course, are the most fun.  ...(continues)

     

    I think Berkshire is an "investment partnership or fund" to the extent it has investments well beyond what is necessary to satisfy its insurance obligations.  I completely agree that Berkshire is exceptionally-positioned to invest in stocks insofar as managing its float effectively is concerned, especially in concert with cash flow from its consolidated operating companies.  I would say that to the extent it needs its equities for insurance obligations, it may need to sell them at any time and so the deferred tax liability isn't illusory; conversely it is strictly suboptimal to compound within a taxable entity anything it holds it would never need to sell. 

     

    As an aside, the "convexity" of taxes makes it such that the suboptimality of holding for investment something like bonds within a corporation is less severe than holding stock.  Ironically tho, I think short-term trading would be pretty tax efficient even inside a corporation if they kept reinvesting their profits (or put them towards buybacks / dividends to long-term owners). 

  13. 1- Brk has never to my knowledge acted on political imperatives - and I think that is unlikely to change.

     

    2- On the taxes, remember that one aspect of owning the utilities & BNSF is the ability to capture depreciation tax benefits. These are essentially bond like income with an added benefit of requiring large capital investments to upkeep - which allows WB to offset equity capital gain taxes and expand incomes at the same time.

     

    I mean top marginal corporate tax rate has been going down for decades, so this might be the first time one might reasonably anticipate much higher taxes in the future.  Doesn't seem political to the extent circumstances suggest it's reasonably possible (e.g. D control government).  Is there a reason the depreciation tax benefits need to be paired and offset with capital gains as opposed to his other operating income? 

     

    I too wish he would sell out of Apple (we can get all that embedded risk without the corporate taxes through a few good index funds).  Who wouldn't pay a much higher multiple on the rest of the business without all the equities.  The exception might be some bank stocks with a good dividend profile (where capital appreciation isn't as much the point), since I think there's a dividends earned deduction for corporations).

  14. Thank you for the welcome.

     

    My thinking is just that the appropriate way to own equities is through something that is taxed directly, whether that's owning it yourself outright or through a fund or investment company where the only taxes owed are personal taxes on income and capital gains.  Of course, if Berkshire isn't able to satisfy with exceptional likelihood possible insurance claims from its cash and future earnings, then some portion of the stock it holds isn't an excess investment as much as well-employed "working capital" for its insurance business -- but I don't think this characterizes much of its equity portfolio given the amount of cash and other consolidated business it has. 

     

    Biden might be a catalyst here.  The prospect of a 28 percent tax rate might get them to realize gains at the lower rate.  And my proposition is that this move would create value even if they did nothing with all that cash because shareholders aren't undertaking any additional risk for which they are undercompensated (which by definition is the case for any corporate tax payer that holds stocks beyond what is necessary for some operating purpose). 

  15. Is the big problem here not all the uninvested cash, but all the equity investments they do have in excess of whatever is reasonably required to cover potential insurance liabilities?  And cash flow from their operating businesses should count towards what's available for payouts as well.  It seems remarkably tax inefficient to hold equities that don't serve any operating purpose, such as being available for sale to service liabilities, in an entity subject to a corporate tax (one that will likely increase by 33 percent in the near future). 

     

    It would be an entirely different story if they actually acquired the same companies they hold equity in since intercorporate cash allocation bypasses any tax.  It would also be a different story if they were uniquely situated to make these investments, which may be true in some cases but not at all the case for most of the publicly traded stock in their portfolio.  Their reports make it seem like deferred tax liabilities on all their unrealized gains are in fact an asset, in the form of a free loan on taxes that would otherwise be owed.  Had there been distributions of all this excess, of course, shareholders would have owned the same stock in their own name without owing any corporate tax on the gains at all. 

     

    The cash they hold technically suffers from the same problem -- why pay corporate taxes on interest from Treasuries? -- but rates are very low.  Putting that cash in equity increases the required return from their assets as a whole (now riskier) but the excess return they can expect to realize over time from doing so doesn't increase commensurately by definition since market prices are not set between people who are double taxed on that investment.  This is probably much more dramatically an issue over the past 3-5 years than it was before, since in the past they probably didn't hold in public equities so much in excess of what was necessary.

     

    I think WEB just likes picking stocks, but unfortunately not enough to have taken advantage of last March.

     

    I don't know -- does he?  Doesn't seem like there's a lot of stock picking going on, and anyway his edge would have to be enormous to justify incurring unnecessary taxes in doing so.  I imagine BRK price would react positively and performance would improve if he sold most of the investments in common stock and kept the extra cash saying "we expect over time possible acquisition opportunities will justify our keeping at least $300 billion in cash".  The "cost of capital" of keeping cash so supremely in excess of what's reasonably necessary is very low and maybe even justified if they really anticipate large deals over the next decade. 

     

    You say "unfortunately [they don't like picking stocks] enough to have taken advantage of last March."  Maybe, but had they not owned all the stock in the first place they wouldn't have recorded enormous losses either.  I think you're right that he / they fashion themselves as long-term investors bullish on the ultimate performance of American equities.  Which is an appropriate view, maybe just not on a corporate balance sheet.  (And of course it's different if they weren't so overcapitalized). 

     

    They wouldn't suffer from this problem if they acquired outright any of their more notable investments, and avoiding the corporate tax on capital gains should mean they are willing to pay quite a bit more for the same company as they would otherwise, on top of any value from the freedom they would have to reinvest target co cash flow across the enterprise.  Why not buy AXP?  Or an assortment of the smaller companies in their portfolio -- even if it entailed a hefty premium

  16. Is the big problem here not all the uninvested cash, but all the equity investments they do have in excess of whatever is reasonably required to cover potential insurance liabilities?  And cash flow from their operating businesses should count towards what's available for payouts as well.  It seems remarkably tax inefficient to hold equities that don't serve any operating purpose, such as being available for sale to service liabilities, in an entity subject to a corporate tax (one that will likely increase by 33 percent in the near future). 

     

    It would be an entirely different story if they actually acquired the same companies they hold equity in since intercorporate cash allocation bypasses any tax.  It would also be a different story if they were uniquely situated to make these investments, which may be true in some cases but not at all the case for most of the publicly traded stock in their portfolio.  Their reports make it seem like deferred tax liabilities on all their unrealized gains are in fact an asset, in the form of a free loan on taxes that would otherwise be owed.  Had there been distributions of all this excess, of course, shareholders would have owned the same stock in their own name without owing any corporate tax on the gains at all. 

     

    The cash they hold technically suffers from the same problem -- why pay corporate taxes on interest from Treasuries? -- but rates are very low.  Putting that cash in equity increases the required return from their assets as a whole (now riskier) but the excess return they can expect to realize over time from doing so doesn't increase commensurately by definition since market prices are not set between people who are double taxed on that investment.  This is probably much more dramatically an issue over the past 3-5 years than it was before, since in the past they probably didn't hold in public equities so much in excess of what was necessary. 

  17. You may also want to check out John Burr Williams' "Theory of Investment Value" (1938, Amazon).  There's a cogency to the way he writes, and I'm not sure we've substantively advanced our conceptual understanding of valuation by much since then. 

     

    I'm not sure what the argument against initiating dividends paying out even just a fifth of earnings really is.  I'm not even really sure that "taxes" is the right answer.  We can all hold stock and treasuries on our person without paying any corporate tax.  A dividend would also enable them to methodically reason about share repurchases: how much in future dividend payouts are saved by repurchasing at this price or, similarly, by how much more can we accelerate dividends paid per share given this repurchase? 

     

    Should they even have a sizable investment portfolio? 

  18. I think mutually assured destruction and nuclear deterrence actually go a long way insofar as a conflict between India and China is concerned, maybe even exceptionally so among former or current pairs of nuclear enemies. 

     

    Granted I can never really get the game theory to work in my head, but I think it has a maybe irrationally pacific effect on both parties.

     

    I think that (large scale) war between India and China is not going to happen.

     

    But I also think that nuclear deterrence between India and China is much less guaranteed than it was between West and Soviet block. IMO both India and China could think that the war would not go nuclear because it would be regional and not "large scale".

     

    That's why I find the game theory a little confusing.  For deterrence to work (meaning, for some degree of bloody conventional war to be less likely than it would have been if neither party had nuclear weapons), you ought to be committed making a first strike under at least some circumstances.  I suspect strictly regional wars that don't percolate elsewhere because each party actually believes the other might make a first nuclear strike if they encroach too much somehow must be limited to periodic conflagrations. 

     

     

  19. Aging because people are dying less and later is good; aging because people are having fewer kids is bad.  If you think about it, things like "a much older and dependent population" don't really matter over time.  Suppose it was the other way: people die shortly after they can no longer work, and therefore don't require sustenance from the working population.  There would then be little reason for them to save and defer consumption either. 

     

    I think considerations about superstar entrepreneurs are also irrelevant.  What you need is a capable and healthy population composed of individuals who tend towards autodidactism and think it worthwhile to save and invest in themselves.  Here's a portrait of England around the turn of last century,

     

    There were many cheap mass-market series of ‘classics for the masses’ in the 19th century, and organised working-class educators made full use of them. In London, the Working Men’s College became nationally famous under Sir John Lubbock, its principal between 1883 and 1899. Lubbock drew up a list of the 100 books it was most important for a working man to read. The proportion of classical authors is remarkable: Homer, Hesiod, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, Plutarch’s Lives, Aristotle’s Ethics and Politics, Augustine’s Confessions, Plato’s Apology, Crito and Phaedo, Demosthenes’ De Corona, Xenophon’s Memorabilia and Anabasis, Cicero’s On Duties, On Friendship and On Old Age, Virgil, plays by all the tragedians, Aristophanes’ Knights and Clouds, Herodotus, Thucydides, Tacitus’ Germania, and Livy. In addition, two famous works on ancient history, Edward Gibbon’s Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (1776-89) and George Grote’s A History of Greece (1846-56), make it on to the list as necessary reading for any educated person, along with the most popular novel then in existence set in antiquity, Edward Bulwer-Lytton’s The Last Days of Pompeii (1834). After 1887, the classical riches on the bookshelf of the working-class self-educator can, in large measure, be attributed to Lubbock’s ideal curriculum.

     

    Yet the standout name in translated classics is the Everyman’s Library series, launched by Joseph Malaby Dent in 1906. Everyman’s printed 1,000 titles in its first 50 years. Forty-six are listed as ‘classical’ in genre – most standard works of Greek and philosophy, poetry and prose, from Marcus Aurelius’ Meditations (the first classical text released), through the dramatists and epic poets to Aristotle’s Metaphysics, the 1,000th volume published.

     

    Dent was the son of a Darlington painter-decorator who joined a Mutual Improvement Society and caught the literature bug. With his editor Ernest Rhys, he founded the Everyman label. Born into a middle-class family, Rhys began his working life as a coal engineer at Langley Park in County Durham, where he sought to enrich the lives of his co-workers. To the consternation of his conservative line manager, who considered mineworkers to be interested only in drinking and gambling, he established a library in a derelict worker’s cottage. Plato’s Republic was on the inaugural reading list.

     

    An ethos where the bottom third are not impoverished and the middle third have the self-regard to read, work and have children will invariably result in a top percentile that is "entrepreneurial" and "risk taking". 

     

    (And while I'm sure it may be worthwhile, my point isn't that reading the classics causes GDP growth either...  Rather, a proxy for a broader form of "self-investment" that includes but isn't limited to saving a lot in a 401(k) or learning Javascript). 

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