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From Bogleheads:
1. Wells Fargo 30 year bonds yield 4.6%2. 30 year treasuries yield 3.06%
3. Thus, Wells Fargo spread to treasuries is 1.5%
4. Recovery rates on corporate debt are about 50%. What this means is that on the average, if a company goes bankrupt and you are a bond holder, you receive approximately 50 cents on the dollar. Lehman bondholders only received 30% so perhaps we can look on that as a worst case.
5. Preferred shareholders will get nothing in bankruptcy. They are below bondholders in the capital structure and it is rare for bondholders to recover 100%.
6. Twice the capital at risk roughly means twice the spread, so I'd look to get 6.14% on a 30 year preferred.
Does anyone know what historical recovery rates have been for subordinate bonds in the financial sector?
Looking for well-run commodity/precious mineral companies. Any ideas?
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This might be mostly about energy companies.
Here’s the source of Chart 4, and a description of the index used for “Commodity Stock”:
http://blog.gorozen.com/blog/commodity-and-natural-resource-equities-undervalued-versus-broad-market
https://us.spindices.com/indices/equity/sp-north-american-natural-resources-sector-index