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Change in the S&P 500 Lags Change in the Monetary Base


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Since it has been a while since we last looked at this, here are the latest figures available....

 

Date  2010-09-08  2010-09-15  2010-09-22  2010-09-29  2010-10-06 

Value  1987.560    1981.602       1928.937    1949.490    1943.934 

 

 

Anyone looking at adding some hedges at this point, I know I am considering it?

 

cheers

Zorro

 

Nope, I would add an hedge if it dropped similarly as the last valley. I'm keeping my eye on this one.

 

BeerBaron

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Some what is the process exactly that the FED uses to increase the money supply. Is it only by buying/selling of treasuries, or is there other processes?

 

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The monetary base continues to creep downward slowly with this Friday's update from the St. Louis Fed.  We'll post an updated graph Monday.  All the QE2 is showing up in M2 and not in the monetary base.  It's the monetary base that has the most dramatic effect on securities markets.  M2 inflation is more correlated with commodity inflation.

 

The current situation isn't alarming, but prudence once again leads us to hedge our recent large gains.  Friday morning we bought a substantial cover of SPY puts that were very attractively priced with implied volatility in the low to mid teens.  :)

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TWA, look at the updated Money Supply... it seems like QE2 is losing traction.

 

BeerBaron

 

Overseas now and out of touch.  Will check it out when we return in a couple of days.

 

FYIW the recent easing got a boost in May of last year from the earlier expansion of the monetary base as velocity eventually picked up, resulting in expansion of M2.  This is not a negative in the short run, disregarding the potential for inflation after the slack in the economy is taken up.  However, the correlation of the stock market with M2 is weaker than with WSBASE.  What's happened to M2 the last two weeks?

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wow, that chart is almost parabolic. maybe its just the compressed scale.

 

i cant wait to see how the end of QE2 will affect the verticle angle of the M2 & WS base. or how the continued rabid printing of money in whatever form finally fuels the pile-on of our national debt to the point where its growth overshadows that of the monetary base & spooks sane people.

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Does that mean we need to get ready for S&P at 1500 in the next 2 months ?  >:(

 

It's sobering to realize that the current market is being supported by the easiest credit ever since the Fed was created.  When the pull back comes watch out!  Until then, the Fed's philosophy seems to be:  :D" Eat, drink and be

merry, for tomorrow we may die."

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When the pull back comes watch out!

 

Is it at QE12234350689943?

 

There are limits.  At some point without restraint there will be inflation.  Then, major inflation.  Then, hyperinflation.  However, history suggests that there is likely to be tight money in the US well before we reach major inflation.

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Mostly excess reserves:

 

http://65.89.18.138/fred2/graph/fredgraph.png?&id=WSBASE,EXCRESNS&scale=Left,Left&range=5yrs,1yr&cosd=2006-07-13,2010-06-01&coed=2011-07-13,2011-06-01&line_color=%230000ff,%23ff0000&link_values=false,false&line_style=Solid,Solid&mark_type=NONE,NONE&mw=4,4&lw=1,1&ost=-99999,-99999&oet=99999,99999&mma=0,0&fml=a,a&fq=Weekly%2C+Ending+Wednesday,Monthly&fam=avg,avg&fgst=lin,lin&transformation=lin,lin&vintage_data-ipsquote-timestamp=2011-07-20,2011-07-20&revision_data-ipsquote-timestamp=2011-07-20,2011-07-20

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The correlation between change in the monetary base (WSBASE) and the S&P 500 is still very high, but the change in WSBASE during the last several months no longer has lead the change in the S&P 500. Instead, the change in the S&P 500 has been leading the change in the WSBASE. This seems to make no sense.  It's like saying that inflation causes an increase in the money supply. 

 

However, there is a perfectly good reason for this upside down behavior.  The FED in the person of its chairman, Ben Bernanke, has been telegraphing in advance exactly what it's going to do in the near future, as with QE2, and more recently with 'twist' and the stated intention to try to keep interest rates ultra low for the next several months.  Thus, Mr. Market in his wisdom of  the crowd has been correctly anticipating what's going to happen with the application of the grease that lubricates his forward motion.

 

See attached PDF for graph running from beginning of 2010 to the latest data received in April.

WS_BASE_04.04.2012_condensed.pdf

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The latest WSBASE data supports the idea that change in the S&P 500 is now associated with what the Fed says it is going to do.  The latest Fed minutes indicate no QE3 on the horizon.  Therefore, we bought OTM  puts on the S&P 500 yesterday that happily are up over 40% today. :)

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The relationship might be exaggerated because of the difference in scale between WSBASE and S&P 500 moves. The expansion of the WSBASE absorbs equity moves.

 

Yes, but that is pecular to the series since QE2 was announced.  The earlier postings of graphs for these series show that change in WSBASE normally leads change in the S&P 500 when The Fed doesn't telegraph its moves in advance.

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When the pull back comes watch out!

 

Is it at QE12234350689943?

 

There are limits.  At some point without restraint there will be inflation.  Then, major inflation.  Then, hyperinflation.  However, history suggests that there is likely to be tight money in the US well before we reach major inflation.

 

I'm going to have to eat my words.  Everyday purchases price inflation is already here in North America.  The American Institute for Economic Research (AIER) reports that prices paid for everyday items such as food, paper products and similar things that we buy everyday such as gasoline rose 8% in 2011 as measured by their Everyday Price Index. 

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