Dalal.Holdings Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Well, it's been < 6 weeks and the tone of the thread has certainly changed... What matters now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHaul Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Actually this pandemic doesn't seem so bad ... it may actually turn out to be a good warning making us more prepared for a really nasty one. Black death ~30-50% of Europe died. And people stayed in to hunker down. Trump should have 1 job -Focus on how to decrease the R0 - and he is doing a horrible job of it. He should copy the East Asian countries and China - they have barely any cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Actually this pandemic doesn't seem so bad ... it may actually turn out to be a good warning making us more prepared for a really nasty one. Black death ~30-50% of Europe died. And people stayed in to hunker down. Trump should have 1 job -Focus on how to decrease the R0 - and he is doing a horrible job of it. He should copy the East Asian countries and China - they have barely any cases. So lie about the reported numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalal.Holdings Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Actually this pandemic doesn't seem so bad ... it may actually turn out to be a good warning making us more prepared for a really nasty one. Black death ~30-50% of Europe died. And people stayed in to hunker down. Trump should have 1 job -Focus on how to decrease the R0 - and he is doing a horrible job of it. He should copy the East Asian countries and China - they have barely any cases. So lie about the reported numbers? Where’s Hannity when you need him? And somebody fire Fauci... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Podcast interview with Scott Gottlieb: https://getpodcast.com/p/ezraklein/ezraklein_scott-gottlieb-on-how-and-when-to-end-social-distancing_7ad7756b6e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkhet Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-comic-strip-tour-of-the-wild-world-of-pandemic-modeling/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalal.Holdings Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 When you try to capture the upside in reopening: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1249712404260421633 But remember, it was the states’ responsibility to get masks and ventilators. Will be up to real leaders w boots on the ground (e.g. Cuomo, not this guy) on how we reopen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 When you try to capture the upside in reopening: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1249712404260421633 But remember, it was the states’ responsibility to get masks and ventilators. Will be up to real leaders w boots on the ground (e.g. Cuomo, not this guy) on how we reopen. He can’t open up the US because he never closed it in the first place. It’s funny how this works. I do think come May many states will gradually reopen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHaul Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Oh Trump is going to reopen. Wheww because I was worried about a pandemic. As long as he is in charge and I can clearly trust him because I know he has no blindspots or bias' or ideologies or a big ego that would totally turn his brain into cabbage... - I am being massively sarcastic - :) The pandemic is keeping people inside and will continue to do so. Not a government leader. How many are normalizing to this and getting numb to it? "Even if restrictions were eased by mid-April, 61% of Americans would still stay at home when possible — while only 19% said they’d go back to their regular life." https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/most-americans-will-stay-home-this-month-even-if-lockdown-lifted-poll/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cherzeca Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 http://scottgrannis.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-crisis-is-over-but-at-terrible-cost.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Only the best people: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 This gets better and better. Navarro who felt qualified to contradict Fauci, because has a PhD in “Social studies” has his degree from the defunct “Trump University”. https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/peter-navarros-phd-revealed-to-be-from-trump-university?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=the-new-yorker&utm_social-type=earned To earn his Ph.D., Navarro wrote a doctoral dissertation entitled “Donald J. Trump: Genius or Savior?” LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 This gets better and better. Navarro who felt qualified to contradict Fauci, because has a PhD in “Social studies” has his degree from the defunct “Trump University”. https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/peter-navarros-phd-revealed-to-be-from-trump-university?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=the-new-yorker&utm_social-type=earned To earn his Ph.D., Navarro wrote a doctoral dissertation entitled “Donald J. Trump: Genius or Savior?” LOL I know you guys hate him, but this is satire you realize, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minten Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 "Whoa! 29/210 (13.7%) of asymptomatic women admitted for delivery tested positive for the #coronavirus in NYC (3/29 developed fever later) https://nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009316" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 This gets better and better. Navarro who felt qualified to contradict Fauci, because has a PhD in “Social studies” has his degree from the defunct “Trump University”. https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/peter-navarros-phd-revealed-to-be-from-trump-university?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=the-new-yorker&utm_social-type=earned To earn his Ph.D., Navarro wrote a doctoral dissertation entitled “Donald J. Trump: Genius or Savior?” LOL I know you guys hate him, but this is satire you realize, right? The worst part is that it's becoming harder and harder to tell ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwericb Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 The present administration is an elaborate satire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minten Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 "Whoa! 29/210 (13.7%) of asymptomatic women admitted for delivery tested positive for the #coronavirus in NYC (3/29 developed fever later) https://nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009316" Can anyone think of any reason why late-pregnant women would be more exposed to COVID than the average NY-er (frequent hospital visits maybe)? 13.7% of an asymptomatic subgroup is (obviously) really, really high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 This gets better and better. Navarro who felt qualified to contradict Fauci, because has a PhD in “Social studies” has his degree from the defunct “Trump University”. https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/peter-navarros-phd-revealed-to-be-from-trump-university?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=the-new-yorker&utm_social-type=earned To earn his Ph.D., Navarro wrote a doctoral dissertation entitled “Donald J. Trump: Genius or Savior?” LOL I know you guys hate him, but this is satire you realize, right? The worst part is that it's becoming harder and harder to tell ;D Exactly. Should move this in the jokes section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cherzeca Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 "13.7% of an asymptomatic subgroup is (obviously) really, really high." is it? who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigarbutt Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 "Whoa! 29/210 (13.7%) of asymptomatic women admitted for delivery tested positive for the #coronavirus in NYC (3/29 developed fever later) https://nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009316" Can anyone think of any reason why late-pregnant women would be more exposed to COVID than the average NY-er (frequent hospital visits maybe)? 13.7% of an asymptomatic subgroup is (obviously) really, really high. 1st question: What is the avg NY-er's %? Possibilities: -This may be a representative sub-population -End of term women often go to medical clinics, hospitals etc (exposure out of home, during transportation and at medical sites) -The immunity during pregnancy changes (only partially understood) but the idea is not to reject the uterine-contained allograft :) so there is an element of immuno-suppression Based on some of your previous posts, you may be interested in the following: In the Italian areas qualified as hot spots, trauma units typically see a 50% decline of trauma visits, with the lower energy traumas especially less frequent. However, in people coming in with low energy traumas, COVID-19 antigen tests are done and prevalence numbers come below and above what's mentioned for pregnant women in NY (careful:anecdotal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 "13.7% of an asymptomatic subgroup is (obviously) really, really high." is it? who knows? Perhaps more doctor visits, checkups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cherzeca Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 "13.7% of an asymptomatic subgroup is (obviously) really, really high." is it? who knows? Perhaps more doctor visits, checkups? until there is widespread serum antibody testing, I just dont think we know whether this is high or low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 https://medium.com/@tepper_jonathan/ground-zero-when-the-cure-is-worse-than-the-disease-3c513d91393d "The policies responses in most countries are not targeted, fail to tackle the source of the crisis and will do little to contain future outbreaks. Millions of workers are paying for this calamitous misunderstanding with their livelihoods." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpRaider Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I don't think there will be a "reopening" despite what investors on the spectrum or psychopathic politicians say until there's a good, fast antibody test at scale and/or a vaccine. Like Gates said, it's totally unrealistic to say "go shop, ignore that pile of bodies in the corner." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardGibbons Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 https://medium.com/@tepper_jonathan/ground-zero-when-the-cure-is-worse-than-the-disease-3c513d91393d It's an interesting article, making a pretty compelling case for reopening the world except for large gatherings. I'm curious what an epidemiologist would think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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