WeiChiLoh Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Hey guys, I am looking at some opportunities in the thermal coal industry but realised that my knowledge is lacking. Are there any books that would help? Thanks, appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelagic Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Not a book but I subscribed to Power Magazine and find every issue incredibly informative. They tend to take a conservative approach to newer tech with the understanding that utility scale power generation isn't easy to disrupt with new tech, although there are always some neat articles on renewables and other cutting edge power technology. Traditionally, thermal coal has been the lowest cost and lowest "tech" form of power generation. Cheaper natural gas, at least here in the US, and even more recently cost competitive renewables in the form of onshore wind and utility scale solar, have chipped away at coal's share of the market. At the same time, governments have really taken coal to the woodshed. Cutting coal usage is an easy and visible victory in the war on pollution/climate change. That said, coal is still an incredibly cheap and relatively simple to operate form of power generation. As more people demand more power, especially in China and India where nat gas is more expensive, coal is the easiest way to take up the slack. Coal is still going to retain a significant % of the power generation market share for at least the next couple decades according to most industry forecasts I've seen. http://www.powermag.com BP's statistical review of world energy is also a good source to start with when it comes to some of the macro trends in the power generation industry. http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp/pdf/Energy-economics/statistical-review-2015/bp-statistical-review-of-world-energy-2015-full-report.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiChiLoh Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 thanks for the link. It was really helpful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Schwab711 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 https://www.corrs.com.au/assets/thinking/downloads/Corrs-Chambers-Westgarth-Investing-in-the-Australian-mining-industry.PDF https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/CCS_Retrofit.pdf That's all I got that's coal-related. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelagic Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Here is the crux of the problem with coal. http://www.economist.com/news/china/21661053-new-study-suggests-air-pollution-even-worse-thought-mapping-invisible-scourge Berkeley Earth’s scientific director, Richard Muller, says breathing Beijing’s air is the equivalent of smoking almost 40 cigarettes a day and calculates that air pollution causes 1.6m deaths a year in China, or 17% of the total. The second link Schwab posted is interesting in that it looks at the feasibility of making coal competitive on environmental terms with other forms of generation. The issue of course is cost. When you look at coal's future in power generation I think it's helpful to put yourself in the shoes of a utility company looking to expand generation capacity. In that sense there are a number of options, coal, nat-gas, solar, wind maybe nuclear or hydro even depending where you're located. Government policy seems to be doing everything it can to make coal more expensive whereas market forces have made natural gas and onshore wind quite competitive. Coal isn't done for yet but it doesn't have the same appeal it did even 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcliu Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I've been looking at coal business lately and I get that impression as well. It seems likely U.S. coal companies may face chronically declining demand given the availability and pricing of better substitutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yadayada Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 The problem is, India and China dont really have a alternative. China has not enough water to frack gas on a large scale, and India doesnt have much gas to begin with. So what else are you going to use? Possibly solar in the future, but that will be a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgis Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 The problem is, India and China dont really have a alternative. China has not enough water to frack gas on a large scale, and India doesnt have much gas to begin with. So what else are you going to use? Possibly solar in the future, but that will be a while. Right, these are issues for India and China in terms of air quality (and for world in terms of pollution). OTOH that might not save US thermal coal companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelagic Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The problem is, India and China dont really have a alternative. China has not enough water to frack gas on a large scale, and India doesnt have much gas to begin with. So what else are you going to use? Possibly solar in the future, but that will be a while. Pretty much spot on, the best option is to make coal cleaner, which is doable. http://cornerstonemag.net/the-development-strategy-for-coal-fired-power-generation-in-china/ From that study - 2015 coal provides roughly 66% of power generation in China, they forecast it will remain at 59% in 2020 and in 2050 will still account for 48% of power generation. Anyone know any companies worth looking at involved in clean coal tech? They've probably sold off alongside coal but might be worth looking at since most longterm forecasts show a place for coal in the power generation mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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