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Dealraker, this is an account with a few hundred stocks (just reading your other posts) and you managed to outperform by a few points? That's pretty interesting. Can you share what % of the total is in the top, say 10 stocks?
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LOL. Some people just cut right to it.
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There are some strange ones here OP so let me suggest a few having taught this subject a bit. Two I do agree with above are DPZ and GIL. Both comparatively easy and importantly for learning, you have familiarity with the product line. HSY and TR. Hersey and Tootsie Roll. Simple candy companies. FAST - Fastenal. Very easy to understand the business but moreover they explain it very well. COST - Costco. Again, a simple retailer. Low complexity and easy to wrap your head around how the stores work, what the strategy is, and why it works so well. CMG - Chipotle. Simple restaurant chain, owns all the stores, you can walk into one tomorrow and understand how it works and what the input costs are. Growth story is easy to understand. Hope this helps!
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I don't know what you guys are on about re: margin. I'm not sure if you're understanding the concept of maintenance margin - i.e., the % of equity in the account for a margin call to come in. It's usually 25-30% but I've seen up to 40%, for stocks - which would be rare. This means if you were margined 50/50, you'd typically get a margin call with the securities down ~30%. DJCO has $395M in securities at year end against $69M in margin. They could easily pay off $10M with cash on hand if they needed to, leaving $59M net, but you can use $69M. That leaves $326M equity in the margin account (82.5%). If the securities fall by half from 12/31/21 prices, you're down to $198M gross with $69M margin, leaving $128M equity in the account - still 65%. Even using the 40% bogey, DJCO's securities would have to fall to $115M to get to 40% equity on $69M margin debt, leaving aside the cash. A 71% drop from 12/31/21. Even if Alibaba went to zero and the entire rest of the portfolio were cut in half, DJCO would still not face a margin call. And even in the case of a 70%+ drop, even if by some miracle some idiot broker liquidated the famous Charlie Munger's account, DJCO shareholders would still have $40-60M left over from the liquidation, ready to invest into a bombed-out stock market. Charlie Munger is not an idiot. Without him DJCO would be worth zero today. The guy turned ~$40M into $326M after accounting for the margin.
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If I recall you've been very concentrated in the past - what did your portfolio look like in rough overall % of AUM last year if I may ask? Thanks.
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Fantastic!
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Let me get this straight. If Prem & Co do a terrible job managing float (half of the insurance business), aren't very candid about it, make promises year after year that go unfulfilled (we'll stop losing money on shorts, we'll start investing in quality companies, we'll grow BV at 15% over the "long term" etc etc.), continue with this year after year including the current one, and board members have the temerity to point all that out and perhaps even indicate that this means the business isn't worth a premium to book, their "opinion means nothing"? We're only here to talk up the business?
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Berkshire wrote down a bolt on acquisition Lubrizol added later.
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Untold Buffett/Munger/Berkshire Stories
coc replied to longterminvestor's topic in Berkshire Hathaway
Alice Schroeder claims Buffett couldn’t recall what color her hair was if she covered it up. -
Untold Buffett/Munger/Berkshire Stories
coc replied to longterminvestor's topic in Berkshire Hathaway
Above all, Buffett hit the g*d damn genetic lottery! If I ate like that it would not be a pretty sight... Funny stuff though thank you. -
What's the difference between Growth and Value investing?
coc replied to DooDiligence's topic in General Discussion
In a Platonic ideal sense, they are the same. The concept of IV being a very "pure" idyllic concept. (Since no one can predict the next 70 years of any business, I don't care what it is and who you are.) In reality -- in practice -- I have made a useful, non-blurry distinction. Growth focused investors are primarily looking to benefit from the growth in the intrinsic economic value of the company over time, as measured by whatever KPIs you'd choose - cash flow, earnings, revenue, margins etc. Value focused investors, from the early days, focused a great deal more on determining today's fair economic value and trying to buy the stock at much lower than that number, and sell it when it got close to that number. The way the style indexes do it is pretty much nonsense - low P/B ratios and that kind of thing. But I think there is a real difference between the two above and my experience lately has been that many have soured on the discount-from-value approach (as I've described it) and many more have chosen the ride-the-economic-growth approach. You can, of course, find a hybrid strategy - but acknowledging that pretty much confirms that there are two (or more) things to hybridize. -
I’m quite sure the Robinhood people don’t know the difference between investment and gambling speculation, and don’t care. So of course Charlie sounds “elitist” to their ear.
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Really enjoyed this one, thanks. Besides his smarts, Malone always comes across as a very likeable guy. Tough, but kind and straight forward.
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He had said he heard from someone who was trying that approach, and he thought it was a perfectly intelligent thing to do - and yet few would be able to do it. Like you, I can't for the life of me remember where he said it. But I'm here to say you're not crazy! 8)
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Yeah, I'm with you. I always say a half-dozen max, for me. I mean, Berkshire has $125B in a single stock. According to financial theory that's insane. Personally, I just cannot get my head around the idea that 30 stocks is "less risky" than 6, if the 6 are reasonably different from one another and are the right sort of businesses. The "risk management" of having a bunch of 2-3% positions is offset by the fact that your winners are not propelling your portfolio forward enough. Unless you have 30 equity stub options or VC plays. Someone mentioned Mark Sellers in here - what he did was nuts. I don't think that's a good example to follow. He missed the concept of fragility. E&P companies are concave to the commodity price. A move from $6 gas to $3.50 gas = bankruptcy unless your costs are totally rock-bottom. At the end of the day, everyone's comfort level is going to vary...lots of ways into heaven.
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Slightly off-topic, but people were shitting all over Bruce a few years ago, but he has actually been doing very well lately - of course that doesn't make the news. https://www.morningstar.com/funds/xnas/fairx/performance Up 47% in 2020, top 2 percentile performance for the past 1,3, and 5 years. I like his approach. Really seems to be doing his own thing. His performance over the last few years is no better than ever, he simply had a huge leftover position in JOE after his investor exodus which has gone parabolic within the last six months. I wouldn’t go revising your opinion based on this.
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Serious question, if you feel you have no 'edge' (which is a quantitative concept i.e., better odds than average), why are you picking stocks at all? There would be no point.
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What did 10k wizard do that SEC EDGAR doesn't?
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Same here on the brother-in-law thing. He's bought all the Robinhood stocks. Amazing. Of course, he's done pretty well, so no reason to stop.
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The variable that needs to be considered is what you're buying. If your three positions are Mastercard, Union Pacific, and Berkshire, bought at not-crazy prices, you're going to be fine. If your three positions are Twitter, XYZ Gold, and Tesla, I wish you great luck. So before you ask, how many positions can I have - I would ask, how many positions are you >90% sure won't fail? What I think gets lost in these discussions is that if you have 3 stocks and one triples, the others can go to ZERO and your portfolio will retain its value. The key is that the three don't overlap with each other and all go to zero at once. You have to understand something about fragility. This last year was instructive. Six positions is more than enough if you know what you're buying and have an intelligent view of their correlations. More than enough.
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Op-ed: US Strategy for Semiconductor Manufacturing
coc replied to Liberty's topic in General Discussion
He's totally right. This is an interesting consequence of the globalization of every business. Everything is run like Nike. -
Charlie Munger - "speculative frenzy" in the stock market
coc replied to widenthemoat's topic in General Discussion
They took margin to buy a competitor. So they didn’t have to sell the stocks. It’s nothing in context of their liquid assets. -
TIKR.com | Free Beta with Coverage of 50k+ Global Stocks
coc replied to Garpy's topic in General Discussion
Fantastic. -
TIKR.com | Free Beta with Coverage of 50k+ Global Stocks
coc replied to Garpy's topic in General Discussion
Love it. Is there any way to toggle to common-size income statement?