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In May, Trump claimed he was taking hydroxychloroquine to prevent covid-19: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-reveals-taking-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus And later when he had covid-19 they didn't give it to him at Walter Reed.

It was Trump's slogan too until, as the Woodward tapes reveal, Kushner & Trump decided they would run a campaign to "reopen" and politicized the whole thing.

And it would last two-three weeks and the pandemic would at that point be over. Unless... Unless... Unless... Someone leaves the house and spreads it to someone from ANOTHER household!

The test results from the hospital say that she came in presenting with a cough. She never told them that, she hasn't coughed a single time during this entire episode. Do they just make things up in hospitals? Before bringing her to the ER, I called the hospital to ask what the procedure is for checkin. Do we call from the parking lot, etc... They told me to just bring her in the front door of the ER and register at the desk. We do so and just inside the front door we tell a greeter that we both have covid-9 and she says it's okay for both of us to come to the front desk to register. THEN they tell us to sit in the FLU section. Are you kidding? Seating my wife with a positive covid-19 test next to the people they think have the flu, and on purpose? Finally, someone on staff tells me that I need to leave because there is a new hospital policy for NO VISITORS for covid patients. Yet they didn't tell the person at the front door or the phone operator who I spoke to.

My wife gets anxiety in a clinical setting and her self-administered-at-home blood pressure reading is far lower than what the nurse or doctor will see. I took her into the Mercy Hospital ER a couple of days ago when her blood pressure dropped to 84/57 with a pulse of 91. The triage nurse then took her blood pressure and it was way back up again. This happens to my wife a lot, but she's never had a reading THIS low. What the hospital should have done, but didn't, is lay her down on a bed in a quiet room alone with a machine periodically measuring her pressure every 5 minutes. Her primary care doctor has measured her low blood pressure using that method, and tells her to eat pickles and put salt on her food to manage it. If not, she gets dizzy.

It sounds like most of you haven't had covid-19 yet in your household. Just in case, I recommend adding a fingertip pulse oximeter and a blood pressure monitor to your first aid supplies. Do you really want to be in a situation at home with covid and not knowing what your readings are? For a period of time yesterday evening I started feeling weak like I was experiencing blood loss and my saturation dropped to 94. Then the weakness subsided and went back up to 97. If anything, it gives you something interesting to monitor while you pass the time.

Given the description of the symptoms and 'epidemiological' circumstances, the two negative results are not enough to completely rule out CV. So, the idea is to behave as if the virus disease is present. Behaviors (altered or not) depend on various beliefs but information coming out of imperfect collective organizations whose recommendations are based at least on some level of trust and peer-reviewed processes suggests that at least self-quarantine versus others that are presumed to not have the disease is the minimal way to go. Further testing may not be helpful unless there is a specific reason. The above assumes a gradual process to recovery. If there is a specific reason to know or simply want to know, the way to go is to obtain another test in another testing area in order to control for collection technique, different lab, different test (antigen vs PCR) with a slightly different sensitivity/specificity (false negative, false positive) profile in general and evolving according to stage of clinical presentation. Another possibility is to wait for at least 2 to 3 weeks and get an antibody test. The sample from Monday's test, 4 days ago, was done at my primary care doctor's parking lot in Folsom by a gowned nurse who came out to my car's window to swab me (but only 1 nostril). That swab was sent to the lab at Quest Diagnostics and my online Quest account is where I viewed the result last night. The type of test was "SARS CoV 2 RNA(COVID 19), QUALITATIVE NAAT". Another online resource says that test "includes RT-PCR or TMA". Off hand, I don't know which lab or which type of test it was from the testing done last Thursday (now 8 days ago) when we both were tested by the same PA at Med-7 in Roseville. Both nostrils were swabbed and my wife's came back positive. I don't have online access to the test -- they notified me of the result by phone. It is not showing up in my Quest Diagnostics account, so I assume they didn't process it at a Quest lab.

I checked my result from Monday's testing: again, 'negative'. I give up. What do I need next, an antibody test?

Not to mention several politicians who got caught breaking their own rules to have Thanksgiving gatherings. I don't blame the public for becoming increasingly jaded by political leadership. People seem to relish in the discovered hypocrisy so that they can feel righteous in their own opposition, although that's pretty childish. But from what I can tell people don't get too bothered when they feel the rules are just and in place to serve the greater good. I watch Fox News (not exclusively of course) and they're obsessed with Gavin Newsom's lunch, but the liberals channels don't really care at all to the same extent.

Thanks! Looks like personal responsibility is a really great theory: US air travel sets a pandemic-era record despite calls to stay home for Thanksgiving https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/covid-air-travel-thanksgiving-trnd/index.html

First, a bulk thank-you for the well-wishers. We continue to not get any worse. All of my stepson's friends appear to be well and their families too. So maybe I got it at Costco where I wore a mask and spoke to nobody except from behind a window at checkout. Maybe my wife caught it ordering at the counter the one time in a restaurant in El Dorado Hills that prior weekend. But my stepson says he was showing symptoms all week, but then again my wife says he's a hypochondriac. I really don't care. Anyhow, we should have immunities for a while and we've booked ourselves six days on Oahu in late December -- we'll need to be tested again (ouch!) before the flight per travel restrictions.

If women are mandated to wear bikini tops (so others aren't offended), is it so much to mandate a man to wear a mask during a pandemic so others aren't killed? Where is the "cry freedom" when it comes to other articles of clothing? No mask, no shirt, no shoes, no service.

Good to hear you're feeling better. Were there any differences between how you felt with this versus previous experiences with the cold or flu? Well, I don't have the vomiting, diarrhea, and fever that makes flu so terribly unpleasant. Like a cold, I have a mild headache. But I don't have the congestion associated with it. I'm not coughing or sneezing. The only thing about covid-19 (so far) which really stands out was the tightness in my chest and heavier breathing, and getting tired very easily from exertion. But that's mostly gone now.

I have covid-19 and tested 'negative', and so much for "common symptoms". Thursday, November 19th: Last Thursday morning, my wife and I noticed that we both had very mild sore throats and slight headaches, with no other symptoms except my wife had swollen lymph nodes in her arm pits (one of which was very tender) and she has never experienced that before. We may have ignored the symptoms had it not been for the fact that we were both experiencing the throat irritation and headaches at the same time. We drove to the Roseville (California) Med7 and joined the line to be tested and waited for 5 hours before having both nostrils swabbed (ouch! ouch!). While waiting in line I had a brief tingling in my lips and when that went away my fingertips began tingling, but that ended soon as well. We both fall asleep earlier than usual. Saturday, November 21st: On Saturday I was called and told that I had a "negative" test result. Our symptoms were basically the same as Thursday but we fall asleep earlier than usual. Sunday, November 22nd: The next day, Sunday, my wife was called and told that she was "positive". The reason for the extra delay for her phone call is that it takes special training to break the news and those people were busy on Saturday (are you fucking kidding me???) Up until this point, we had mild headaches that came and went and very slightly sore throats. No fevers, no coughing, and no loss of taste or smell. Although my wife is complaining of abdominal pain. We both fall asleep earlier than usual. Monday, November 23nd: Very early in the morning it became more difficult to breath for both of us, remedied by turning over on our stomachs in bed. We went for a walk in the afternoon and that was a mistake -- a slight uphill and we had to take a break halfway up it. Otherwise, still no fever or cough, no loss of taste/smell. I was tested again at 4pm because I want a documented 'positive' result in the event that I should need a hospital. We fall asleep earlier than usual. Tuesday (November 24th)) Our lungs were both a bit worse, it was getting harder to breath but nothing too scary (like having books stacked on you chest). My energy was returning last night but my wife was feeling more tired and she was reporting the worst headache she's ever had. She received antibiotics for her abdominal pain (to treat a suspected UTI). Wednesday (today): this morning my breathing is significantly better, almost normal. No other symptoms aside from a slightly scratchy throat. How did we get this? My wife's 17 yr old son has been staying with us as well for the past 10 days and he has symptoms too, complaining mostly of exhaustion (but no fever and no loss of taste/smell). He told us he had a sore throat and cough before last Thursday, but we've never heard him cough and my wife says he's a hypochondriac. I forgot to mention we've had some strange olfactory disturbances. Last Thursday, I smelled ammonia in the household and my wife from time to time says the place smells like cigarettes.

Bad analogy. A vaccine is not inevitable. Sending bits between computers is. You misunderstand me. We already know that a vaccine has been developed. My point is that the development was inevitable without Trump's help, but credit him for speeding it along. Look at the context, I'm not generalizing that all vaccines are inevitable. Similarly, Marc Andreeson was on that NCSA Mosaic development team and then went on to Netscape where he brought it to the masses. And Al Gore's efforts brought the funding to MOSAIC's development. Then, in December 1991, the Gore Bill created and introduced by then Senator and future Vice President Al Gore was passed, which provided the funding for the Mosaic project. Development began in December 1992. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(web_browser) Ok I get what you're saying, but the web isn't the internet, it is just one of many protocols that run on top of it. The internet itself can trace its roots back to the late 1960s snd TCP/IP was certainly being used by the mid 70s. Also if Trump claimed that he "created" a vaccine I would think that he was delusional as well. To many, or to most, "the Internet" was invented in the 1990s when a user interface was dumbed down enough for them to make use of it. That's when it took off and AOL Online, etc... That's what Gore was referencing. That was a mind-blowing transformation that didn't begin in the 1960s or 1970s. It began when a graphical user interface was built, and it was funded by "the Gore Bill". To your other comment: Trump Falsely Takes Credit For Pfizer Vaccine Success https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2020/11/10/trump-falsely-takes-credit-for-pfizer-vaccine-success-accuses-fda-and-democrats-of-stalling-news-until-after-election/?sh=7f8b0d1c5c8e

Bad analogy. A vaccine is not inevitable. Sending bits between computers is. You misunderstand me. We already know that a vaccine has been developed. My point is that the development was inevitable without Trump's help, but credit him for speeding it along. Look at the context, I'm not generalizing that all vaccines are inevitable. Similarly, Marc Andreeson was on that NCSA Mosaic development team and then went on to Netscape where he brought it to the masses. And Al Gore's efforts brought the funding to MOSAIC's development. Then, in December 1991, the Gore Bill created and introduced by then Senator and future Vice President Al Gore was passed, which provided the funding for the Mosaic project. Development began in December 1992. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(web_browser)

Similar to your argument that the Internet was inevitable ever since the first integrated circuit was invented... Take all credit away for anything that has been done for Operation Warp Speed -- a vaccine was inevitable.

I doubt the president has anything to do with this at all. Reminds me of this: https://tylervigen.com/old-version.html Obama took office in 2008 gave him a great starting point for increases and the fact that GW took office in 2000 was pretty bad luck. Reagan and Clinton got lucky with their timing as well, Reagan right after a decade of stagnation and Clinton right at the start of the internet boom. None of these things have anything to do with the men elected president though (algore's claims of inventing the internet aside, of course). Fact checking. www.businessinsider.com/al-gore-invent-internet-misunderstanding-2015-11 www.wired.com/2000/10/the-mother-of-gores-invention/ LOL, ok so he didn't "invent" it, he "created" it. Mankind owes him a tremendous debt of gratitude regardless, for that and for saving New York from being underwater by 2014. How many times can one man save the world? Snopes: The claim that Gore was actually trying to take credit for the “invention” of the Internet was plainly just derisive political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. If, for example, Dwight Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while president, “took the initiative in creating the Interstate Highway System,” he would not have been the subject of dozens and dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he “invented” the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Eisenhower meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with interview remarks about the Internet. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/ Sorry but the internet was inevitable ever since the integrated circuit was invented, or at least since the first microcomputer was fabbed at Intel. Once you have computers the next logical step is to connect them together. For a politician to say that he "took the initiative to create the internet" is just evidence of a narcissistic personality disorder with delusions of grandeur. 1991: Pushed funding for first web browser No lie was spread farther and wider than this one: "Al Gore said he invented the Internet." If you were alive in 2000, you heard this claim; it appeared in over 1,000 stories in the American media during the campaign. But what you probably don't know is that Al Gore never said he invented the Internet. What he actually said was, "During my service in the Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet"--plainly a statement about his work as a congressman on the Internet, and not a claim that he had "invented" anything. And it was true, to boot. During the 1980s, when the Internet was little more than a network linking a few universities, Gore repeatedly advocated greater funding for computer networking research. Among the bills he later introduced were the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991, which led to the development of the first Web browser, and the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1993, which opened the Internet to commercial traffic. https://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Al_Gore_Technology.htm

I doubt the president has anything to do with this at all. Reminds me of this: https://tylervigen.com/old-version.html Obama took office in 2008 gave him a great starting point for increases and the fact that GW took office in 2000 was pretty bad luck. Reagan and Clinton got lucky with their timing as well, Reagan right after a decade of stagnation and Clinton right at the start of the internet boom. None of these things have anything to do with the men elected president though (algore's claims of inventing the internet aside, of course). Fact checking. www.businessinsider.com/al-gore-invent-internet-misunderstanding-2015-11 www.wired.com/2000/10/the-mother-of-gores-invention/ LOL, ok so he didn't "invent" it, he "created" it. Mankind owes him a tremendous debt of gratitude regardless, for that and for saving New York from being underwater by 2014. How many times can one man save the world? Snopes: The claim that Gore was actually trying to take credit for the “invention” of the Internet was plainly just derisive political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. If, for example, Dwight Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while president, “took the initiative in creating the Interstate Highway System,” he would not have been the subject of dozens and dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he “invented” the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Eisenhower meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with interview remarks about the Internet. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/

Measuring the size of past parties since Reagan: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/business/stock-market-by-president/index.html

Yes, I remarried January 3rd, 2020. Less than 3 months after my divorce was final.

I think a better analogy is giving soldiers R&R without a condom. Frontline workers have proper PPE that protects them, and training. They are catching it from each other when their guard is down (in the breakroom, for example). This information is from my wife who is an HR manager at a large healthcare company (several hospitals and clinics with tens of thousands of employees). They are doing stupid things like having potlucks in the breakroom.

Vaccines will go to med staff first, but regardless remember two doses per person. I know that's the plan to prioritize the med staff, but I'm not in agreement that it's the right approach. If one were to take the 70+ age group out of the equation, what would be the load on the hospitals today? That's how the pressure comes off the hospitals, and the rational for the curfews and shutdowns is that the spread of the virus is risking our hospitals being overrun. Anyways...

We will have potentially 20m vaccine doses available by the end of December. Assuming there is a means of distributing and administering the doses... We have 28m Americans over the age of 70. Most of the dying are age 70+. If we first vaccinating the age 70+ the death tool should drop by over 90%. Right?

And not banning religious assembly either. The US Constitution continues to drive this in both cases.